[OSGeo-Edu] Peer to Peer University: Community GIS course & Re: [OSGeo-Edu] More on the OSGeo educational webinar idea

Tue Dec 27 09:15:12 EST 2011

Hi Cameron,

Thanks as always for your ability to structure a process (attached
below). My one thought here was that we would record the video through
the webinar system that we used for our virtual meeting. This might
make the task simpler -- that we just ask someone from each software
group (or whoever authored the quickstarts) to run through the quick
start using their desktop and the Geotech center's adbobe connect
virtual meeting platform. Phil has already shown he can capture the
meeting as a video.

That seems possibly simpler... reactions?

Charlie

On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Cameron Shorter
<cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok,
> Here is my suggestion for moving forward, and taking small achievable steps
> with a high likelihood of success.
>
> 1. Someone step up and make one or two 5 to 10 minute videos of an OSGeo
> project, which is based upon an OSGeo-Live quickstart.
>
> 2. In the process, document the process for creating the video. In
> particular, outline the tools used and documents to create. I'm expecting to
> decide:
> * The template structure for a video (largely based upon the quickstart)
> * The format(s) that we store base material in (powerpoint? web based
> portal? video formats?)
> * I expect there will be updates and refinements to the Quickstart too.
>
> 3. I'm expecting not to get this right first time, and so we will likely go
> through a number of iterations.
>
> 4. With regards to which project we use, I suggest selecting one of the more
> popular OSGeo incubated projects.
>
> 5. It would be good if we could get this first video released in conjunction
> with the next OSGeo-Live 5.5 release in March 2012.
> We will then be in a position to invite projects to develop videos for the
> OSGeo-Live 6.0 release (for FOSS4G 2012). Then have a comprehensive list of
> videos ~ 2013.
>
> 6. At some point in the future, some projects will make use of the tools and
> processes we have created to start building material for other formats. Eg:
> A 25 minute conference presentation, or a 3 hour workshop, or 6 month series
> of course lectures.
>
> So now, who is interested in helping create a first example 5 to 10 minute
> video?
> If one or two people are able to create a video format, I can commit to
> incorporating this into the OSGeo-Live build process, which in turn will
> lead to projects creating and maintaining these videos in the long term.
>
> Charlie, in answer to your question - each project community is responsible
> for creating their own Quickstart. Creating a Quickstart is one of the
> criteria for inclusion in OSGeo-Live.
>
> On 15/12/2011 1:50 AM, Charles Schweik wrote:
>>
>> Hi Cameron, all:
>>
>> Thanks for making this link and for your continued insights, Cameron.
>> Short response:
>>
>> - I think Cameron's idea of doing short webinars on the Quickstart
>> material is a great first step toward figuring out how we do this
>> collectively as a group.
>> - Can we get the individual authors of Quickstarts to do short webinars?
>> - Not sure how we connect to Brylie's Peer--to-Peer U question, but it
>> could be worth looking at that and thinking how, if we managed to
>> create a course collectively, how we would link that to Suchith's
>> system and to the Geotech Center's efforts.
>>
>> My longer responses to specific questions posed below. -- Cheers
>> Charlie
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Cameron Shorter
>> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I suggest that we discuss the following questions/suggestions on the list
>>> here, then copy into:
>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing_Artefacts
>>> Quickstart is translated into other languages. I'd strongly urge people
>>> building webinars and training courses to make use of the Project
>>> Quickstarts.  Eg: It would be great to see someone create videos/webinars
>>> which are based on a script from the Quickstart.
>>> The bonus here is that we reduce the cost to projects of creating (and
>>> then
>>> more importantly the maintaining) of training material.
>>
>> I think this is an excellent suggestion to both "translate" the
>> quickstarts to another form of educational material (webinars/youtube
>> video) to increase the range of "readership." Second, it would help us
>> figure out how we collectively set up this system.
>>
>> Below are my take on the questions posed -- but of course it's only my
>> view from my particular vantage point.
>>
>>> So my questions/suggestions:
>>> * Who is the target audience for Peer to Peer University / Webinar?
>>
>> I think to start, we need introductions to the OSGeo-related
>> technologies for anyone who wants to know what they are. So I think
>> the quickstart idea is perfect here.
>>
>>> * How long should it be? (I think a high value for effort opportunity
>>> would
>>> be to create 5 minute webinars for each project, which is based upon
>>> existing Quickstarts)
>>
>> I think 5-10 minutes would be great, although with the webinars, I was
>> thinking these would be a longer demonstration by project experts on
>> their projects that would include Q&A and be a little longer. The
>> examples Phil has sent out are good examples. These are simply
>> presentations like what we would see in a conference, for example.
>>
>>> * Is the emphasis to be:
>>> 1. Describing an Open Source Project and how it solves a set of
>>> technologies, or
>>> 2. Describing a technology (which is serviced by one or more Open Source
>>> projects which are used for in examples)
>>
>> It could be either....
>>
>>> * What sub-products can you break your product into? Eg, for a webinar, I
>>> think you would break it into:
>>> 1. Slides
>>> 1.1 Screenshots
>>> 2. Script, or speaking notes (which could be derived from the Quickstart
>>> text)
>>
>> Yes... all three
>>
>>> * What format will you store your products in?
>>> 1. Wiki?
>>> 2. Word/Powerpoint/OpenOffice formats?
>>> 3. Video format? What resolution? 1024x768?
>>
>> I was thinking at least #3. After the webinars, we could ask the
>> author if he/she is willing to store all three (scripts, slides, etc.)
>> in the University of Nottingham's database library. If the source of
>> all three are stored there, then new versions of them could be updated
>> every year. I think the Quickstart material also should be stored in
>> Suchith's system, Cameron.
>>
>>> * What is the process/tools should you use in creating your products?
>>
>> You have a lot of experience in this Cameron. But unless someone like
>> Brylie or someone else wants to step up and be the coordinator of this
>> and develop the standards, I worry that too many rules or requirements
>> will lead to larger tasks/too much time commitment and the idea will
>> die. We need task granularity to be as fine scaled as we can make it.
>>
>> Who wrote the Quickstarts? Is it possible to recruit the authors to do
>> these short webinars?
>>
>>
>>
>>> If you have read this far, and still want more background reading, here
>>> are
>>> a few places to look:
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com/2011/06/memoirs-of-cat-herder-coordinating.html
>>> *
>>>
>>> http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com/2008/10/creating-geofoss-distribution-pipeline.html
>>> * http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing_Artefacts (and links to OSGeo-Live
>>> processes)
>>> * http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing_Pipeline
>>>
>>> On 6/12/2011 4:58 PM, Brylie Oxley wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> We are organizing a Community GIS course at the Peer to Peer University.
>>>> http://p2pu.org/en/groups/community-gis/
>>>>
>>>> Would anybody here like to help us develop the course? We can use
>>>> organizers to assure that the course content is of high quality.
>>>>
>>>> If you would like to help with the course organization, let me know. We
>>>> will make sure to promote you to a course organizer role.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your consideration!
>>>> --Brylie Oxley
>>>> Technology Generalist
>>>> http://gnumedia.org
>>>>
>>>> Course Organizer
>>>> http://p2pu.org
>>>>
>>>> Technology Apprentice
>>>> http://woolman.org
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>>>
>>>
>>> On 14/12/2011 2:56 AM, Charles Schweik wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear OSGeo colleagues,
>>>>
>>>> Regarding our proposal to start an OSGeo educational webinar. It
>>>> occurred
>>>> to me that some on these lists might not fully understand what we are
>>>> proposing.
>>>>
>>>> First, please check out [1] -- it is a recorded webinar stored on
>>>> YouTube
>>>> and example of what we hope to achieve. (This is a webinar put on by
>>>> Phil
>>>> Davis' GeoTech center -- Phil is an OSGeo education committee member,
>>>> and
>>>> nicely providing the webinar hosting system).
>>>>
>>>> Second, I urge knowledgable representatives from OSGeo software projects
>>>> to consider working with us to schedule an "Introduction to your
>>>> technology"
>>>> webinar. Other webinar ideas are WELCOME. Please add your ideas (and
>>>> your
>>>> name, email) to our webinar ideas wiki page [2].
>>>>
>>>> All of these would be recorded and, with permission of the speaker,
>>>> stored
>>>> on YouTube and hopefully inventoried in the new educational material
>>>> repository being hosted by Suchith Anand and his ELOGeo group at the
>>>> University of Nottingham, UK. See our main OSGeo education page [3].
>>>>
>>>> I do hope some on these lists will step up and help us move this idea
>>>> forward. This is a great marketing opportunity, especially knowing we
>>>> can
>>>> store these on YouTube and in our online searchable database.
>>>>
>>>> Charlie Schweik
>>>> OSGeo Edu committee chair
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/user/GeospatialTechnology?feature=mhee#p/a/u/0/-vv7OcxATh0
>>>> [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Edu_webinars
>>>> [3] http://www.osgeo.org/education
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cameron Shorter
>>> Geospatial Solutions Manager
>>> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
>>> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
>>>
>>> Think Globally, Fix Locally
>>> Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
>>> http://www.lisasoft.com
>>>
>
>
> --
> Cameron Shorter
> Geospatial Solutions Manager
> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
>
> Think Globally, Fix Locally
> Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
> http://www.lisasoft.com
>