[OSGeo-Edu] Peer to Peer University: Community GIS course & Re: [OSGeo-Edu] More on the OSGeo educational webinar idea

Sat Dec 31 23:35:33 EST 2011

Plan is good, but the plan is only any good if there are people prepared 
to step up and put plans into action.

On 28/12/11 01:15, Charles Schweik wrote:
> Hi Cameron,
>
> Thanks as always for your ability to structure a process (attached
> below). My one thought here was that we would record the video through
> the webinar system that we used for our virtual meeting. This might
> make the task simpler -- that we just ask someone from each software
> group (or whoever authored the quickstarts) to run through the quick
> start using their desktop and the Geotech center's adbobe connect
> virtual meeting platform. Phil has already shown he can capture the
> meeting as a video.
>
> That seems possibly simpler... reactions?
>
> Charlie
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Cameron Shorter
> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> Ok,
>> Here is my suggestion for moving forward, and taking small achievable steps
>> with a high likelihood of success.
>>
>> 1. Someone step up and make one or two 5 to 10 minute videos of an OSGeo
>> project, which is based upon an OSGeo-Live quickstart.
>>
>> 2. In the process, document the process for creating the video. In
>> particular, outline the tools used and documents to create. I'm expecting to
>> decide:
>> * The template structure for a video (largely based upon the quickstart)
>> * The format(s) that we store base material in (powerpoint? web based
>> portal? video formats?)
>> * I expect there will be updates and refinements to the Quickstart too.
>>
>> 3. I'm expecting not to get this right first time, and so we will likely go
>> through a number of iterations.
>>
>> 4. With regards to which project we use, I suggest selecting one of the more
>> popular OSGeo incubated projects.
>>
>> 5. It would be good if we could get this first video released in conjunction
>> with the next OSGeo-Live 5.5 release in March 2012.
>> We will then be in a position to invite projects to develop videos for the
>> OSGeo-Live 6.0 release (for FOSS4G 2012). Then have a comprehensive list of
>> videos ~ 2013.
>>
>> 6. At some point in the future, some projects will make use of the tools and
>> processes we have created to start building material for other formats. Eg:
>> A 25 minute conference presentation, or a 3 hour workshop, or 6 month series
>> of course lectures.
>>
>> So now, who is interested in helping create a first example 5 to 10 minute
>> video?
>> If one or two people are able to create a video format, I can commit to
>> incorporating this into the OSGeo-Live build process, which in turn will
>> lead to projects creating and maintaining these videos in the long term.
>>
>> Charlie, in answer to your question - each project community is responsible
>> for creating their own Quickstart. Creating a Quickstart is one of the
>> criteria for inclusion in OSGeo-Live.
>>
>> On 15/12/2011 1:50 AM, Charles Schweik wrote:
>>> Hi Cameron, all:
>>>
>>> Thanks for making this link and for your continued insights, Cameron.
>>> Short response:
>>>
>>> - I think Cameron's idea of doing short webinars on the Quickstart
>>> material is a great first step toward figuring out how we do this
>>> collectively as a group.
>>> - Can we get the individual authors of Quickstarts to do short webinars?
>>> - Not sure how we connect to Brylie's Peer--to-Peer U question, but it
>>> could be worth looking at that and thinking how, if we managed to
>>> create a course collectively, how we would link that to Suchith's
>>> system and to the Geotech Center's efforts.
>>>
>>> My longer responses to specific questions posed below. -- Cheers
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Cameron Shorter
>>> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>    wrote:
>>>> I suggest that we discuss the following questions/suggestions on the list
>>>> here, then copy into:
>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing_Artefacts
>>>> Quickstart is translated into other languages. I'd strongly urge people
>>>> building webinars and training courses to make use of the Project
>>>> Quickstarts.  Eg: It would be great to see someone create videos/webinars
>>>> which are based on a script from the Quickstart.
>>>> The bonus here is that we reduce the cost to projects of creating (and
>>>> then
>>>> more importantly the maintaining) of training material.
>>> I think this is an excellent suggestion to both "translate" the
>>> quickstarts to another form of educational material (webinars/youtube
>>> video) to increase the range of "readership." Second, it would help us
>>> figure out how we collectively set up this system.
>>>
>>> Below are my take on the questions posed -- but of course it's only my
>>> view from my particular vantage point.
>>>
>>>> So my questions/suggestions:
>>>> * Who is the target audience for Peer to Peer University / Webinar?
>>> I think to start, we need introductions to the OSGeo-related
>>> technologies for anyone who wants to know what they are. So I think
>>> the quickstart idea is perfect here.
>>>
>>>> * How long should it be? (I think a high value for effort opportunity
>>>> would
>>>> be to create 5 minute webinars for each project, which is based upon
>>>> existing Quickstarts)
>>> I think 5-10 minutes would be great, although with the webinars, I was
>>> thinking these would be a longer demonstration by project experts on
>>> their projects that would include Q&A and be a little longer. The
>>> examples Phil has sent out are good examples. These are simply
>>> presentations like what we would see in a conference, for example.
>>>
>>>> * Is the emphasis to be:
>>>> 1. Describing an Open Source Project and how it solves a set of
>>>> technologies, or
>>>> 2. Describing a technology (which is serviced by one or more Open Source
>>>> projects which are used for in examples)
>>> It could be either....
>>>
>>>> * What sub-products can you break your product into? Eg, for a webinar, I
>>>> think you would break it into:
>>>> 1. Slides
>>>> 1.1 Screenshots
>>>> 2. Script, or speaking notes (which could be derived from the Quickstart
>>>> text)
>>> Yes... all three
>>>
>>>> * What format will you store your products in?
>>>> 1. Wiki?
>>>> 2. Word/Powerpoint/OpenOffice formats?
>>>> 3. Video format? What resolution? 1024x768?
>>> I was thinking at least #3. After the webinars, we could ask the
>>> author if he/she is willing to store all three (scripts, slides, etc.)
>>> in the University of Nottingham's database library. If the source of
>>> all three are stored there, then new versions of them could be updated
>>> every year. I think the Quickstart material also should be stored in
>>> Suchith's system, Cameron.
>>>
>>>> * What is the process/tools should you use in creating your products?
>>> You have a lot of experience in this Cameron. But unless someone like
>>> Brylie or someone else wants to step up and be the coordinator of this
>>> and develop the standards, I worry that too many rules or requirements
>>> will lead to larger tasks/too much time commitment and the idea will
>>> die. We need task granularity to be as fine scaled as we can make it.
>>>
>>> Who wrote the Quickstarts? Is it possible to recruit the authors to do
>>> these short webinars?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> If you have read this far, and still want more background reading, here
>>>> are
>>>> a few places to look:
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com/2011/06/memoirs-of-cat-herder-coordinating.html
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com/2008/10/creating-geofoss-distribution-pipeline.html
>>>> * http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing_Artefacts (and links to OSGeo-Live
>>>> processes)
>>>> * http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing_Pipeline
>>>>
>>>> On 6/12/2011 4:58 PM, Brylie Oxley wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> We are organizing a Community GIS course at the Peer to Peer University.
>>>>> http://p2pu.org/en/groups/community-gis/
>>>>>
>>>>> Would anybody here like to help us develop the course? We can use
>>>>> organizers to assure that the course content is of high quality.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you would like to help with the course organization, let me know. We
>>>>> will make sure to promote you to a course organizer role.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your consideration!
>>>>> --Brylie Oxley
>>>>> Technology Generalist
>>>>> http://gnumedia.org
>>>>>
>>>>> Course Organizer
>>>>> http://p2pu.org
>>>>>
>>>>> Technology Apprentice
>>>>> http://woolman.org
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>>>>> Edu_discuss at lists.osgeo.org
>>>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/edu_discuss
>>>>
>>>> On 14/12/2011 2:56 AM, Charles Schweik wrote:
>>>>> Dear OSGeo colleagues,
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding our proposal to start an OSGeo educational webinar. It
>>>>> occurred
>>>>> to me that some on these lists might not fully understand what we are
>>>>> proposing.
>>>>>
>>>>> First, please check out [1] -- it is a recorded webinar stored on
>>>>> YouTube
>>>>> and example of what we hope to achieve. (This is a webinar put on by
>>>>> Phil
>>>>> Davis' GeoTech center -- Phil is an OSGeo education committee member,
>>>>> and
>>>>> nicely providing the webinar hosting system).
>>>>>
>>>>> Second, I urge knowledgable representatives from OSGeo software projects
>>>>> to consider working with us to schedule an "Introduction to your
>>>>> technology"
>>>>> webinar. Other webinar ideas are WELCOME. Please add your ideas (and
>>>>> your
>>>>> name, email) to our webinar ideas wiki page [2].
>>>>>
>>>>> All of these would be recorded and, with permission of the speaker,
>>>>> stored
>>>>> on YouTube and hopefully inventoried in the new educational material
>>>>> repository being hosted by Suchith Anand and his ELOGeo group at the
>>>>> University of Nottingham, UK. See our main OSGeo education page [3].
>>>>>
>>>>> I do hope some on these lists will step up and help us move this idea
>>>>> forward. This is a great marketing opportunity, especially knowing we
>>>>> can
>>>>> store these on YouTube and in our online searchable database.
>>>>>
>>>>> Charlie Schweik
>>>>> OSGeo Edu committee chair
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/user/GeospatialTechnology?feature=mhee#p/a/u/0/-vv7OcxATh0
>>>>> [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Edu_webinars
>>>>> [3] http://www.osgeo.org/education
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>>>>> Edu_discuss at lists.osgeo.org
>>>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/edu_discuss
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cameron Shorter
>>>> Geospatial Solutions Manager
>>>> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
>>>> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
>>>>
>>>> Think Globally, Fix Locally
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cameron Shorter
>>>> Geospatial Solutions Manager
>>>> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
>>>> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
>>>>
>>>> Think Globally, Fix Locally
>>>> Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
>>>> http://www.lisasoft.com
>>>>
>>
>> --
>> Cameron Shorter
>> Geospatial Solutions Manager
>> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
>> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
>>
>> Think Globally, Fix Locally
>> Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
>> http://www.lisasoft.com
>>