[EU] Chapter creation as NGO

[Marc Vloemans]

All

My proposal:
- make concept bylaws for approval (I am publishing them in this group tonite)
- establish founding fathers/mothers an first board
- establish linkage with .org and local chapters (e.g. María can be organisational link to board)
- establish seat/country (after comparing plus minuses)
- then make bootstrap motion ( no vetos allowed nor formally possible, it is a do-ocracy after all)

Or make boot strap motion per above item??

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 11 jan. 2017 om 15:47 heeft Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> There are 2 ways to move forward:
> 1. Request for an official mandate from the OSGeo Board about an official EU chapter. This would help establish a membership/decision procedure etc. Then we move on with the NGO formation.
> 2. Just make a bootstrap motion on this list which is voted from all listed here.
> 
> Just my 2c,
> Angelos
> 
>> On 01/11/2017 04:39 PM, Till Adams wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> we also get support from Canada! Great ;-)
>> (@Jeff, can't find you on the initial member's list:
>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Europe)
>> 
>> I would suggest to pick up Steven's thoughts, especially the latter one.
>> It seems, that Belgium or the Netherlands offer us the possibility to
>> establish what we need:
>> (Relatively) rapid and trouble-free creation of a non-profit organisation.
>> 
>> If we all agree on this, my proposal is, that one of our next step is to
>> decide, in which of the countries we will be in the best hands.
>>  For both countries we have at least one person, that has experience in
>> this (thanks to Marc and Dirk), so this is not an issue, I personally
>> would not fear having some minor costs, if they help us to keep our
>> organisation transparent. Also we have people, that are willing to
>> support them and be initial founding members (Maria, me-myself-and-I)
>> Perhaps you Dirk and Marc might list up the backgrounds about founding a
>> non-profit organisation in either of the countries we need in order to
>> be able to decide?
>> (and while writing another suggestion, Estonia came in, thanks Ian!)
>> 
>> And before we do that, I'd suggest, that we agree on a way for
>> decision-making, because that's an important part of an active community
>> for me. Exchanging tons of emails is one way, but this does not push us
>> forward one meter, if we are not able to decide anything.
>> 
>> My proposal is to adapt the regular OSGeo voting system as defined here:
>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Voting_Procedure
>> 
>> As we do not have a "board" for now (and even do not know, whether we
>> need one), I'd suggest, that everybody listed on the initial member site
>> is allowed to vote (and everybody else is free to add her/himself to
>> that list). Also calls for a vote might be done by everybody on that list.
>> 
>> Last thing, the hen and egg problem: No established decision process
>> prevents us from establishing a decision process .... so let's discuss
>> this ;-)
>> 
>> Till
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 11.01.2017 um 14:47 schrieb Jeff McKenna:
>>> Hi María, all,
>>> 
>>> I am in full support of an official non-profit organization, around
>>> the EU chapter of OSGeo.
>>> 
>>> Dirk and others know that I have been trying to help this along for
>>> years now, even in person in meetings with Dirk, and I do understand
>>> the importance of this official entity - it will open doors and give
>>> opportunities.
>>> 
>>> The QGIS project did create its own official entity, QGIS.ORG
>>> registered in Switzerland, but as a for-profit organization - I also
>>> supported that creation, initially discussing with Tim and others, and
>>> it seems to be doing great for their needs (similar to OSGeo, they
>>> just released their 2016 financial report and are discussing their
>>> 2017 budget).
>>> 
>>> So I feel attached to this discussion, and am interested to help the
>>> EU/Europe chapter formation along.  I also volunteer to help, and to
>>> be listed as an initial member (before you laugh, consider that I have
>>> attended almost all FOSS4G-Europe events, and never attended a single
>>> FOSS4G-NorthAmerica event: that fact should show you the importance of
>>> Europe for the OSGeo community).
>>> 
>>> I have read this whole thread and am interested in seeing this through.
>>> 
>>> So keep up the great momentum! :)
>>> 
>>> -jeff
>>> 
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> Angelos Tzotsos, PhD
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