[EU] Chapter creation as NGO

[Till Adams]

> All
>
> My proposal:
> - make concept bylaws for approval (I am publishing them in this group tonite)
> - establish founding fathers/mothers an first board
> - establish linkage with .org and local chapters (e.g. María can be organisational link to board)
> - establish seat/country (after comparing plus minuses)
> - then make bootstrap motion ( no vetos allowed nor formally possible, it is a do-ocracy after all)

+1

> Or make boot strap motion per above item??
>
> Kind regards,
> Marc Vloemans
>
>
>> Op 11 jan. 2017 om 15:47 heeft Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>>
>> There are 2 ways to move forward:
>> 1. Request for an official mandate from the OSGeo Board about an official EU chapter. This would help establish a membership/decision procedure etc. Then we move on with the NGO formation.
>> 2. Just make a bootstrap motion on this list which is voted from all listed here.
>>
>> Just my 2c,
>> Angelos
>>
>>> On 01/11/2017 04:39 PM, Till Adams wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> we also get support from Canada! Great ;-)
>>> (@Jeff, can't find you on the initial member's list:
>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Europe)
>>>
>>> I would suggest to pick up Steven's thoughts, especially the latter one.
>>> It seems, that Belgium or the Netherlands offer us the possibility to
>>> establish what we need:
>>> (Relatively) rapid and trouble-free creation of a non-profit organisation.
>>>
>>> If we all agree on this, my proposal is, that one of our next step is to
>>> decide, in which of the countries we will be in the best hands.
>>>  For both countries we have at least one person, that has experience in
>>> this (thanks to Marc and Dirk), so this is not an issue, I personally
>>> would not fear having some minor costs, if they help us to keep our
>>> organisation transparent. Also we have people, that are willing to
>>> support them and be initial founding members (Maria, me-myself-and-I)
>>> Perhaps you Dirk and Marc might list up the backgrounds about founding a
>>> non-profit organisation in either of the countries we need in order to
>>> be able to decide?
>>> (and while writing another suggestion, Estonia came in, thanks Ian!)
>>>
>>> And before we do that, I'd suggest, that we agree on a way for
>>> decision-making, because that's an important part of an active community
>>> for me. Exchanging tons of emails is one way, but this does not push us
>>> forward one meter, if we are not able to decide anything.
>>>
>>> My proposal is to adapt the regular OSGeo voting system as defined here:
>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Voting_Procedure
>>>
>>> As we do not have a "board" for now (and even do not know, whether we
>>> need one), I'd suggest, that everybody listed on the initial member site
>>> is allowed to vote (and everybody else is free to add her/himself to
>>> that list). Also calls for a vote might be done by everybody on that list.
>>>
>>> Last thing, the hen and egg problem: No established decision process
>>> prevents us from establishing a decision process .... so let's discuss
>>> this ;-)
>>>
>>> Till
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Am 11.01.2017 um 14:47 schrieb Jeff McKenna:
>>>> Hi María, all,
>>>>
>>>> I am in full support of an official non-profit organization, around
>>>> the EU chapter of OSGeo.
>>>>
>>>> Dirk and others know that I have been trying to help this along for
>>>> years now, even in person in meetings with Dirk, and I do understand
>>>> the importance of this official entity - it will open doors and give
>>>> opportunities.
>>>>
>>>> The QGIS project did create its own official entity, QGIS.ORG
>>>> registered in Switzerland, but as a for-profit organization - I also
>>>> supported that creation, initially discussing with Tim and others, and
>>>> it seems to be doing great for their needs (similar to OSGeo, they
>>>> just released their 2016 financial report and are discussing their
>>>> 2017 budget).
>>>>
>>>> So I feel attached to this discussion, and am interested to help the
>>>> EU/Europe chapter formation along.  I also volunteer to help, and to
>>>> be listed as an initial member (before you laugh, consider that I have
>>>> attended almost all FOSS4G-Europe events, and never attended a single
>>>> FOSS4G-NorthAmerica event: that fact should show you the importance of
>>>> Europe for the OSGeo community).
>>>>
>>>> I have read this whole thread and am interested in seeing this through.
>>>>
>>>> So keep up the great momentum! :)
>>>>
>>>> -jeff
>>>>
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>> -- 
>> Angelos Tzotsos, PhD
>> OSGeo Charter Member
>> http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos
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