[FOSS-GPS] impressed

oddpost oddpost at ya.ru
Tue Mar 19 01:04:55 PDT 2013


Dear Tomoji,
thanks a lot for your help and very quick reply. I very appreciate your comments.
Could you please also let me know whether ntrip mount point can have slash in its name? ("/")
As an example:
Mountpoint:
Test/RTK

Ntrip Browser shows mount points successfully ("Test/RTK"), but  after that in ntrip client options part of the mount point name goes to Port field (81/Test). 
And of course after that no mountp error occurs.

Please check screenshot for your reference.

Thanks a lot!

On Mar 19, 2013, at 3:37 PM, "Tomoji TAKASU" <ttaka at yk.rim.or.jp> wrote:

> Dear oddpost
> 
>> When working with Type 18 and Type 19 messages, should Input
>> Stream be set as (2) Base Station or (3) Correction?
> 
> Please set (2).
> 
>> Options for positioning mode should be set as "Kinematic"?
> 
> If moving, set "Kinematic".
> If stationary, set either "Kinematic" or "Static".
> 
> Tomoji TAKASU
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "oddpost" <oddpost at ya.ru>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:22 PM
> To: "Open Source GPS-related discussion and support" <foss-gps at lists.osgeo.org>
> Subject: Re: [FOSS-GPS] impressed
> 
>> Hello,
>> I am trying to figure out rtknavi settings. I am using openmoko freerunner and would like to get relatively precise positioning (using RTK).
>> I have access to ntrip, providing Type 1 (differential GPS corrections), Type 3 (BS parameters), Type 18 (uncorrected carrier phase measurements),
>> Type 19 (virtual distance uncorrected observations).
>> 
>> When working with Type 18 and Type 19 messages, should Input Stream be set as (2) Base Station or (3) Correction?
>> Options for positioning mode should be set as "Kinematic"?
>> 
>> The idea is to get the following simple architecture:
>> freerunner --> rtknavi <---- ntrip
>> 
>> Thanks a lot for your help
>> On Mar 16, 2013, at 11:46 PM, Artyom G <gnsssdr at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>> I also want to thank developers of RTKlib.
>>> During last month one the students under my control tested nvs08c-csm with
>>> RTKlib. At first we tried to get our coordinates relative to RTCM base
>>> station. During 3 days the difference in fix-position coordinates didn't
>>> exceed 1cm (on each coordinate). Distance between RTCM station and our
>>> antenna was about 3 km. Then we determined coordinates between RTCM station
>>> and second reciever. And at the end we determined coordinates between two
>>> nvs08c-csm receivers (baseline about 8m).
>>> 
>>> We also checked manually baseline distance between two nvs08c-csm receivers
>>> by subtracting coordinates of the first nvs08c-csm receiver (that were got
>>> relative to RTCM station) from the coordinates of the second nvc08c-csm
>>> receiver (that were also got relative to RTCM station). The result was the
>>> same as RTKlib outputed.
>>> 
>>> I also appreciated strongly the posibility to stream data from receiver
>>> through "strsvr". It was very comfortable to work with receivers output in
>>> parallel with the student.
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot for RTKlib.
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Michele Bavaro <mic.bavaro at yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Great, thank you!
>>>> 
>>>> Too many times we hear the opposite.
>>>> I am glad that - for once - someone has been willing to share his good
>>>> results with RTKLIB combined with low cost receivers.
>>>> To cool down you enthusiasm a bit, I anticipate that you should not expect
>>>> much difference between a LEA-4T and a NV08C-CSM. Carrier phase noise is
>>>> similar and despite tracking Glonass, that is still hardly usable by RTKLIB
>>>> since it is affected by the well-known biases any Glonass receiver RF
>>>> receive path is subject to. And RTKLIB "auto-calibration" feature is still
>>>> not implemented.
>>>> 
>>>> If I am allowed, I am under the impression that Tomoji's development
>>>> road-map is adding more and more features to RTKLIB so that now resembles
>>>> very much a professional product rather than an open-source *one-man*effort. Surely having multiple frequencies, multiple constellations, super
>>>> standalone post-processing (PPP), and beautifully coloured GUIs is great
>>>> and we are always grateful to him for that. But I wonder how many users
>>>> desire to have a robust and very lean single frequency GPS RTK algortihm.
>>>> One that can run headless on Android perhaps, or even on a STM32F4 bare
>>>> metal. One that can fill the gap with the most common quirks of low-cost
>>>> receivers (e.g. random phase slips) and use some sort of pre-processing
>>>> RAIM to indentify and exclude outliers. One that can be integrated in
>>>> robotic automatic guidance projects.
>>>> 
>>>> Back to receivers, the only real difference between NV08C-CSM and LEA-4T
>>>> is that the latter is gone out of production several years ago, and uBlox
>>>> has not replaced it with an equally performing module. 5T and 6T in fact
>>>> can only measure at 10Hz under certain conditions and they are not
>>>> certified to do that anyway.
>>>> So if you need a module to build a commercial product you only have three
>>>> choices right now: NVS NV08C-CSM, ublox 6T/P, and Skytraq S1315F-RAW.
>>>> Of the three, only the first has to my knowledge a clear development and
>>>> upgrade path. There are rumors that the new revision of NV08C -to come out
>>>> later this year- will fully support Galileo and, as most of us know,
>>>> Galileo Signal In Space specifications guarantee interoperability with GPS
>>>> by design. Thus, as soon as there will be a sensible number of Galileo
>>>> birds in the sky, dual constellation low-cost RTK will become easily
>>>> useable by all of us. Not to mention dual frequency of course, as L5 and
>>>> E5a bands overlap.
>>>> 
>>>> Congratulations again and keep it up,
>>>> Michele
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 16/03/2013 09:04, napoleon wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> My setup is:
>>>> Rover:40db tallysman antenna, lea-4t receiver
>>>> Base: leica 1202gg antenna ntrip caster connection,rtcm 3 data.
>>>> baseline 6.68 m
>>>> base -kinimatic solution
>>>> I searched for the lea-4t configuration, i set it up, i pressed ''start''and
>>>> i had first fix after 1.5 minute and stable fix after 7 minutes....(less
>>>> than 2.5cm)-MY FIRST TRY
>>>> Looks like a joke.
>>>> I am totally impressed.
>>>> I am planning a new config with tallysman gnss antenna and nvs-08 and i am
>>>> afraid to imagine the result.
>>>> I will also test vrs and max solutions from the base network (i guess i can
>>>> feed max solution through rtcm 3 to rtklib)
>>>> Anyway i have to say again that i am impressed and to thank you ttakasu and
>>>> team.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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