[FOSS4G-Oceania] Plenary Panel Session

Tue Jul 24 00:00:08 PDT 2018

A bit late to the party, but another +1 for Adam's point on choosing a
panellist from existing attendees.

I'm not actually sure what the panel topic of conversation is. It would be
good to narrow down what we want to address with the panel. I know it's in
the works
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wz8tJyVhmThjEvpwQ2htt8n1NwmTBJ5bnu827DO0GfU/edit>,
but a
general conversation on diversity would be very dull for me. I would rather
a specific topic. Diversity could be a core element of these topics.

Examples:

   - *Fostering the next generation of spatial professionals* - This could
   include questions on all sorts of diversity and trends that current
   professionals have noticed.
   - *Emerging applications of spatial - *Not the best name, but the idea
   would be to choose a diverse group of people who have been applying their
   expertise in new ways/places. Projects in remote locations throughout
   Oceania. Applications that address a marginalised group. Session would
   hopefully get others in the room thinking about the application of their
   skills in new ways.
   - *The history of OpenStreetMap in Australia *- Might be interesting to
   take a look back an OpenStreetMap in Australia and get longtime
   contributors to discuss the way data, community and methods have been
   changing. This could include a few insights from companies that have been
   changing the way contributions to OSM take place. E.g. Microsoft. Not a
   direct connection to diversity, but we could look at the kind of people who
   have been contributing and ask questions about how the objects that have
   been mapped reflect that. Alyssa Wright has spoken on this topic.

Agree with the others that a panellist makes sense after the topic has been
discussed. Deanna may very well have registered by then.

On 23 July 2018 at 10:56, Martin Tomko <tomkom at unimelb.edu.au> wrote:

> +1 with Adam.
>
> +, we do not have the topic yet – I would not automatically assume that
> keynotes are the best to chair or sit on the panel. Keynotes are ( byt
> definition )often tabngentially outside the community or domain, to provide
> a perspective. For some panels this may be ok, but for others not.
>
> I would reach to Deanna ( Alex?) and invite her to participate, support
> and come to the event. If she registers, we could ask her for sitting on
> the panel. Chairing the panel is a mundane, (but hard) job. I would argue
> you get more value from the panellist if they do not chair it, but
> participate. The chair of the panel should be an organiser of the
> conference or someone well established IN the community already, at least
> that is more usual experience.
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> M.
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> *From: *FOSS4G-Oceania <foss4g-oceania-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on behalf
> of adam steer <adam.d.steer at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Monday, 23 July 2018 at 10:38 am
> *To: *Alex Leith <alexgleith at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *"foss4g-oceania at lists.osgeo.org" <foss4g-oceania at lists.osgeo.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [FOSS4G-Oceania] Plenary Panel Session
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> Hi Alex, all
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> I strongly suggest that Deanna is invited to attend this event and listen
> in; and if she chooses to engage, then we can reassess how we engage next
> year. I don’t doubt that she has a wealth of experience and knowledge; and
> as CEO of SIBA she has an excellent platform from which to influence the
> spatial industry.
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>
> However - I also see a deep set of experience, knowledge and engagement on
> this committee; and in the people who have already signed up for the event.
> For every person we cherrypick/parachute in, we remove an opportunity for
> one of those established community members and drivers to stand in the
> spotlight.
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> I’d go as far as to argue that keynotes have the opportunity to have their
> say in their talks - and panels should selected from attendees. Perhaps
> keynotes could chair sessions? …and would anyone on this committee group
> say no to an invitation to sit on a panel and contribute to a discussion?
> Probably not...
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> Getting to be more like my $2.50 rather than $0.02… happy to hear other
> ideas.
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> On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 at 06:43, Alex Leith <alexgleith at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All
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>
> I agree around panelists, but this suggestion is specifically for the
> chair.
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> Panelists will likely be formed partly of keynotes, but some others too
> (for example, Cameron has said that he would be interested in being on a
> diversity panel).
>
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>
> Anyhow, seems that the consensus is that we shouldn't invite a panel
> chair, we should pick one from attendees. I do disagree with this, in this
> case. Here is an opportunity to bring someone along from the broader
> community, in this case, someone leading the spatial business community,
> and she will bring with her some diversity of opinion, and some deep
> insights. It is quite likely that she would register for the event, too, we
> just can't be sure about that!
>
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>
> Cheers,
>
>
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> On Sun, 22 Jul 2018 at 22:07 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> +1 Lets first look for panelist from attendees. I'm confident we will have
> plenty to choose from. (We have good candidates within the our conference
> committee).
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> On 22/7/18 9:18 pm, adam steer wrote:
>
> dang, I missed that one. I think I was in the swiss mountains not caring
> about anything electronic.
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> We don’t offer one day, or one session registrations (with the exception
> of workshops). We’re expecting general community members to turn up, we
> should expect that people we shine the spotlight on (as panelists, chairs,
> speakers, plenaries, keynotes) to turn up as well. Otherwise it’s a crappy
> message.
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> Are we afraid that we won’t fill a program? Are we worried that there is
> not enough expertise in the community that *does* turn up?
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> I’m not.
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> …and +1 to Martin’s thoughts.
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> :D
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> On Sun, 22 Jul 2018 at 21:07, John Bryant <johnwbryant at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Good point. I agree this is 'for the community, by the community' and we
> should aim in that direction.
>
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>
> But recall that we did have an email discussion about non-attending
> speakers (email thread: *Conference Presenters and their Attendance, *27
> June
> <http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Conference-Presenters-and-their-Attendance-td5369372.html>),
> where this was suggested as a way to mitigate concerns around speakers not
> getting a discount:
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> *“We are aiming for an engaging and participatory conference, with minimal
> distinction between presenters and attendees. While we really appreciate
> all our presenters and would love to provide them with a free ticket, we
> have opted instead to try and keep registration prices low and are asking
> presenters to purchase a registration. If that is not possible for a
> presenter, they may attend free of charge for the session they are
> presenting in, and the break immediately afterwards.”*
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> I very much agree that the ideal is to have speakers attend, and for
> attendees to speak. But for those that can't/won't, we've made this
> accommodation. I'm supposing that this will apply to a very small number of
> people, in any case.
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> So the question at hand is - do we apply this principle to a panel chair?
> Or do we aim for a higher standard for this level of participation?
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