[FOSS4G-Oceania] Plenary Panel Session

Alex Leith alexgleith at gmail.com
Sat Jul 28 23:31:00 PDT 2018


Ok, so to close this off... there's no support for my suggestions, so I
guess for a different tack, we need to workshop a topic and then start
thinking through who (of those who are attending) would make a good chair,
and who will be good panel members.

There's a doc here if anyone is feeling like they want to contribute:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wz8tJyVhmThjEvpwQ2htt8n1NwmTBJ5bnu827DO0GfU/edit


Cheers,

On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 at 17:00 Edoardo Neerhut <ed at mapillary.com> wrote:

> A bit late to the party, but another +1 for Adam's point on choosing a
> panellist from existing attendees.
>
> I'm not actually sure what the panel topic of conversation is. It would be
> good to narrow down what we want to address with the panel. I know it's
> in the works
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wz8tJyVhmThjEvpwQ2htt8n1NwmTBJ5bnu827DO0GfU/edit>, but a
> general conversation on diversity would be very dull for me. I would rather
> a specific topic. Diversity could be a core element of these topics.
>
> Examples:
>
>    - *Fostering the next generation of spatial professionals* - This
>    could include questions on all sorts of diversity and trends that current
>    professionals have noticed.
>    - *Emerging applications of spatial - *Not the best name, but the idea
>    would be to choose a diverse group of people who have been applying their
>    expertise in new ways/places. Projects in remote locations throughout
>    Oceania. Applications that address a marginalised group. Session would
>    hopefully get others in the room thinking about the application of their
>    skills in new ways.
>    - *The history of OpenStreetMap in Australia *- Might be interesting
>    to take a look back an OpenStreetMap in Australia and get longtime
>    contributors to discuss the way data, community and methods have been
>    changing. This could include a few insights from companies that have been
>    changing the way contributions to OSM take place. E.g. Microsoft. Not a
>    direct connection to diversity, but we could look at the kind of people who
>    have been contributing and ask questions about how the objects that have
>    been mapped reflect that. Alyssa Wright has spoken on this topic.
>
> Agree with the others that a panellist makes sense after the topic has
> been discussed. Deanna may very well have registered by then.
>
>
> On 23 July 2018 at 10:56, Martin Tomko <tomkom at unimelb.edu.au> wrote:
>
>> +1 with Adam.
>>
>> +, we do not have the topic yet – I would not automatically assume that
>> keynotes are the best to chair or sit on the panel. Keynotes are ( byt
>> definition )often tabngentially outside the community or domain, to provide
>> a perspective. For some panels this may be ok, but for others not.
>>
>> I would reach to Deanna ( Alex?) and invite her to participate, support
>> and come to the event. If she registers, we could ask her for sitting on
>> the panel. Chairing the panel is a mundane, (but hard) job. I would argue
>> you get more value from the panellist if they do not chair it, but
>> participate. The chair of the panel should be an organiser of the
>> conference or someone well established IN the community already, at least
>> that is more usual experience.
>>
>>
>>
>> M.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *FOSS4G-Oceania <foss4g-oceania-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on
>> behalf of adam steer <adam.d.steer at gmail.com>
>> *Date: *Monday, 23 July 2018 at 10:38 am
>> *To: *Alex Leith <alexgleith at gmail.com>
>> *Cc: *"foss4g-oceania at lists.osgeo.org" <foss4g-oceania at lists.osgeo.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [FOSS4G-Oceania] Plenary Panel Session
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Alex, all
>>
>>
>>
>> I strongly suggest that Deanna is invited to attend this event and listen
>> in; and if she chooses to engage, then we can reassess how we engage next
>> year. I don’t doubt that she has a wealth of experience and knowledge; and
>> as CEO of SIBA she has an excellent platform from which to influence the
>> spatial industry.
>>
>>
>>
>> However - I also see a deep set of experience, knowledge and engagement
>> on this committee; and in the people who have already signed up for the
>> event. For every person we cherrypick/parachute in, we remove an
>> opportunity for one of those established community members and drivers to
>> stand in the spotlight.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’d go as far as to argue that keynotes have the opportunity to have
>> their say in their talks - and panels should selected from attendees.
>> Perhaps keynotes could chair sessions? …and would anyone on this committee
>> group say no to an invitation to sit on a panel and contribute to a
>> discussion? Probably not...
>>
>>
>>
>> Getting to be more like my $2.50 rather than $0.02… happy to hear other
>> ideas.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 at 06:43, Alex Leith <alexgleith at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree around panelists, but this suggestion is specifically for the
>> chair.
>>
>>
>>
>> Panelists will likely be formed partly of keynotes, but some others too
>> (for example, Cameron has said that he would be interested in being on a
>> diversity panel).
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyhow, seems that the consensus is that we shouldn't invite a panel
>> chair, we should pick one from attendees. I do disagree with this, in this
>> case. Here is an opportunity to bring someone along from the broader
>> community, in this case, someone leading the spatial business community,
>> and she will bring with her some diversity of opinion, and some deep
>> insights. It is quite likely that she would register for the event, too, we
>> just can't be sure about that!
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2018 at 22:07 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> +1 Lets first look for panelist from attendees. I'm confident we will
>> have plenty to choose from. (We have good candidates within the our
>> conference committee).
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22/7/18 9:18 pm, adam steer wrote:
>>
>> dang, I missed that one. I think I was in the swiss mountains not caring
>> about anything electronic.
>>
>>
>>
>> We don’t offer one day, or one session registrations (with the exception
>> of workshops). We’re expecting general community members to turn up, we
>> should expect that people we shine the spotlight on (as panelists, chairs,
>> speakers, plenaries, keynotes) to turn up as well. Otherwise it’s a crappy
>> message.
>>
>>
>>
>> Are we afraid that we won’t fill a program? Are we worried that there is
>> not enough expertise in the community that *does* turn up?
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m not.
>>
>>
>>
>> …and +1 to Martin’s thoughts.
>>
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>> :D
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>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2018 at 21:07, John Bryant <johnwbryant at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Good point. I agree this is 'for the community, by the community' and we
>> should aim in that direction.
>>
>>
>>
>> But recall that we did have an email discussion about non-attending
>> speakers (email thread: *Conference Presenters and their Attendance, *27
>> June
>> <http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Conference-Presenters-and-their-Attendance-td5369372.html>),
>> where this was suggested as a way to mitigate concerns around speakers not
>> getting a discount:
>>
>>
>>
>> *“We are aiming for an engaging and participatory conference, with
>> minimal distinction between presenters and attendees. While we really
>> appreciate all our presenters and would love to provide them with a free
>> ticket, we have opted instead to try and keep registration prices low and
>> are asking presenters to purchase a registration. If that is not possible
>> for a presenter, they may attend free of charge for the session they are
>> presenting in, and the break immediately afterwards.”*
>>
>>
>>
>> I very much agree that the ideal is to have speakers attend, and for
>> attendees to speak. But for those that can't/won't, we've made this
>> accommodation. I'm supposing that this will apply to a very small number of
>> people, in any case.
>>
>>
>>
>> So the question at hand is - do we apply this principle to a panel chair?
>> Or do we aim for a higher standard for this level of participation?
>>
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