[FOSS4G-Oceania] Motion: extended, targeted call for papers if needed

[Martin Tomko]

+1 from me, on all counts.

Re academic track – we have only one submission, and we can complete this fast. We are also exploring whether the author will not prefer to keep it as a standard talk. See an forthcoming email form me soon.
Martin

From: FOSS4G-Oceania <foss4g-oceania-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of adam steer <adam.d.steer at gmail.com>
Date: Friday, 7 September 2018 at 11:24 am
To: John Bryant <johnwbryant at gmail.com>
Cc: foss4g-oceania <foss4g-oceania at lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: [FOSS4G-Oceania] Motion: extended, targeted call for papers if needed

just looking at the timeline, a 2 week CFP and 1 week review would mean finalising the general program and the academic track at about the same time.

cheers

On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 at 10:26, adam steer <adam.d.steer at gmail.com<mailto:adam.d.steer at gmail.com>> wrote:
I think Sarah has some great points. We can be brave and say ‘well, we didn’t get what we expect, so we have N slots available for a round 2 CFP, which is open only for women’

The strategy we would employ is this:

- Open a second call for papers, be open about our failure to attract a speaker cohort that reflects the community in the first round.
- As Sarah suggested, specify how many speaker slots we would make available for this round
- As Sarah suggested, make first round community results available at the same time to inform second round voters**

How would we mitigate against delays? Squish everything a bit timewise. I mean the community voting round is really long - we could examine first week results and see what our mix would be if we made a call based purely on that. And the second vote needs only be a week long.

If we acted *now*, we’d be able to reduce time delays to a few days or a week, which is OK in my mind.

What do the women on this list feel about being focussed on as per a specific CFP and community vote?

**We could further restrict the vote to women - talks by women, for women? Why not? effectively we arguably right now have talks by men for men :D

Yes, it’s unfair. It’s also unfair to not be able to walk the streets of Dar Es Salaam (or any city) safely on your own; it’s unfair to be told what you’re interested in; and many other things. Forum panels etc are great - but talking is one thing; and we need to *do*.

Cheers

Adam






On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 at 08:10, John Bryant <johnwbryant at gmail.com<mailto:johnwbryant at gmail.com>> wrote:
So, I don't want to just drop this topic, but I'm not seeing a clear & actionable motion out of this. Adam, I understand you're pushing for an extended CFP, but I think we need more clarity on exactly what actions are being proposed, and how they could result in a different outcome than what we already have.

Before I personally vote for such an action, I'd want to know what strategies we'd be employing, beyond what we've already done, to strive for a better outcome.

A separate community vote is easy to set up, but I don't think I'm in favour, I feel it draws a lot of attention to a very small number of people who might be uncomfortable being identified as a special group.

Also, there are timelines in place (for selections, publishing program, etc), changing them has knock-on effects, I'm not opposed to adjusting but a motion to produce an extended CFP will require us to take a look at these.

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