[FOSS4G-Oceania] process for sponsor-submitted talks at F4G SotM 2019

Sun Mar 24 19:31:40 PDT 2019

+1 for Adam's original motion.   I support the preference for community
driven selection process for talks.

Trisha

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 1:12 PM Edoardo Neerhut <ed at mapillary.com> wrote:

> Good idea, although probably best to have this in a doc.
>
> Let's start listing ideas for each tier here
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dzb0WV8Wtn2n4hSkagzV2aWOJOK_Hkkw6rIk8QdagqI/edit#>
> .
>
> On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 12:50, adam steer <adam.d.steer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex, Ed
>>
>> let’s start a new thread with ‘ideas for sponsors’. My vote on sponsor
>> content at social events will be the same as last year ;)
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 12:30, Alex Leith <alexgleith at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I mentioned this last year, but at our local SSSI conferences we’ve
>>> allowed the dinner or drinks sponsor to give an address at the dinner, or
>>> before the drinks. That could work with the $10,000 tier we have proposed
>>> here. It could even be at the icebreaker?
>>>
>>> On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 12:28 pm, Edoardo Neerhut <ed at mapillary.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 to an unbiased and fair selection process on presentations.
>>>>
>>>> I think we need to be creative and find other ways to add value to
>>>> sponsors, particularly those who sign on in the higher tiers. Ideas are
>>>> welcome on this front.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 11:30, Martin Tomko <tomkom at unimelb.edu.au>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Can we also check what is the accepted practice in the general FOSS4G
>>>>> series ( NA, Europe, global, etc)? This may give us arguments for one
>>>>> arrangement against another.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My +1 for Adam’s solution still holds.
>>>>>
>>>>> M.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *FOSS4G-Oceania <foss4g-oceania-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on
>>>>> behalf of adam steer <adam.d.steer at gmail.com>
>>>>> *Date: *Monday, 25 March 2019 at 9:08 am
>>>>> *To: *Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
>>>>> *Cc: *foss4g-oceania <foss4g-oceania at lists.osgeo.org>
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [FOSS4G-Oceania] process for sponsor-submitted talks
>>>>> at F4G SotM 2019
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Cameron
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ‘should we have a sponsor pitch session’ is another motion /
>>>>> discussion. I personally don’t like these - and feel that the plenary intro
>>>>> / sponsor thanks spiel will point people in the direction of where to find
>>>>> them for more information. In this case I feel tipping the balance
>>>>> consciously toward a ‘community feel’ as far as possible is the best
>>>>> approach.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Having said that, there’s a lot of conversation with the sponsorship
>>>>> team to have over how to operate this stuff for 2019. The programme is
>>>>> still very much vaporware.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I felt the balance people struck in talks (even from a few
>>>>> biggishcorporation folks) was about right in 2018; mostly aiming to educate
>>>>> with a bit of ‘heres the company I work for and what we do’.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It’s a good point to raise, and we can certainly include that
>>>>> intention in the CfP.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 06:20, Cameron Shorter <
>>>>> cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a delicate balance question.
>>>>>
>>>>> We really appreciate sponsors as they enable us to attract community
>>>>> by keeping costs to attendees down, pay for travel grant programs, and
>>>>> cover the community day. We should say that ourselves. I think we should
>>>>> follow that with a  60 second pitch session for big roller sponsors to
>>>>> pitch their company, and then refer back to their booth for more info.
>>>>> (That should be at the start of the conference within a plenary).
>>>>>
>>>>> We should then state that our strong preference for talks (as per our
>>>>> selection criteria) is no sales pitches. Yes, you can say where you work,
>>>>> yes you can apply a very subtle reference back to you company, but that
>>>>> should be it. (Paul Ramsey is very good at getting this balance right.)
>>>>>
>>>>> +1, For all other talks, we should select based on existing merit
>>>>> criteria (and not on how much you pay).
>>>>>
>>>>> Cameron
>>>>>
>>>>> On 24/3/19 1:37 pm, adam steer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In our latest FOSS4G SotM 2019 committee meeting there was a short
>>>>> discussion about how to manage talks submitted by sponsors (minutes will
>>>>> come soon, the 2019 conference wiki page at osgeo.org is just being
>>>>> started)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In 2018, we decided that sponsor-submitted talks should go through the
>>>>> normal process - that is, there is no guaranteed talk slot for sponsors;
>>>>> and any talks submitted by sponsors need to go through the normal community
>>>>> review + committee filter.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On reflection, we failed to communicate this adequately to some
>>>>> sponsors, and this year will aim to do so in the prospectus. However, in an
>>>>> open-ended feedback survey, none of the sponsors who responded indicated
>>>>> that they would prefer ‘guaranteed content’.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Before we go ahead and set words in stone for 2019:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you think that we should stick to the 2018 model - meaning that
>>>>> sponsor-submitted talks should go through the normal review process; and
>>>>> there are no guaranteed talk slots for sponsors?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 says ‘yes’; and that’s my personal vote/preference as programme
>>>>> coordinator.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please vote, ask questions if you need more clarity, discuss - our
>>>>> next conference committee meeting is scheduled for early April; and we’d
>>>>> like to have a prospectus nearing ‘ready’ shortly after that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, and regards
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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