[Foss4g2009] FW: OGC Integration Showcase - Climate Competition Proposal [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Sat Nov 15 04:44:17 EST 2008

On Fri, November 14, 2008 04:39, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> Raj Singh wrote:
>
>> Climate Challenge - Integration Plugfest - 2009
>> sounds good to me!
> Good for me too.
> CCIP (pronounced "sip" or "kip"?)

Pronounced Sissy-aipee. It describes a chunk of IP addresses reserved for
chicken-hearted web surfers.

Regards, Arnulf.

>> ---
>> Raj
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 13, at 7:37 PM, Bruce Bannerman wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Perhaps:
>>>
>>>
>>> Climate Challenge - Integration Plugfest - 2009
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We need to capture peoples imagination, commitment and $.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, that will have to be my last 2c. I need to pack my bags...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Whatever we call this, it has the potential to be an annual event
>>> similar to:
>>>
>>> - the Australian Solar Car Challenge
>>>
>>>
>>> - the US DARPA (?) robot car challenge
>>>
>>>
>>> (or whatever their real names are).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Adios. I'll catch you in two months.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bruce Bannerman
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 19:15 -0500, Raj Singh wrote:
>>>
>>>> I like getting Climate in the name so it's less generic. I also
>>>> like removing Geospatial -- part of my general feeling that we
>>>> should re- position our industry out of a geospatial "corner". Geo
>>>> is a superset of mainstream IT. We develop IT solutions. Geospatial
>>>> just happens to be required to tackle certain problems.
>>>>
>>>> I'd also suggest having the last word be "Plugfest" if you want a
>>>> strong OGC association. I'm not sure if you do want this strong an
>>>> association, but it's worth evaluating as that word already means
>>>> something to OGC members. Here's some background:
>>>>
>>>> The First-Ever OGC Plugfest
>>>> http://www.opengeospatial.org/projects/initiatives/plugfest
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> DRAFT OGC Plugfest Administration Plan:
>>>> http://portal.opengeospatial.org/files/?artifact_id=5896&version=3
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Raj
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 13, at 6:04 PM, Bruce Bannerman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Add the word climate in there.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't like the term Geospatial. It is too Cafe Late.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (sorry, I can't get the inflection on the e in Late in text only
>>>>> mode).
>>>>>
>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 09:46 +1100, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Greg Buehler,
>>>>>> You wanted an acronym for the Showcase.
>>>>>> Simon Hope and I vote for "Geospatial Integration Challenge" or
>>>>>> GIC.
>>>>>> Assuming this acronym is available, can you please set up an OGC
>>>>>>  project for us using this acronym.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Graham de Hoedt,
>>>>>> Please speak up if you feel strongly that another acronym should
>>>>>> be used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So what is this project about:
>>>>>>> * OGC Standards
>>>>>>> * Showcase of geospatial technologies
>>>>>>> * Inclusive to all interested participants
>>>>>>> * Showcase of different data
>>>>>>> * A Climate Change scenario (although I'm wondering whether
>>>>>>> this scope may limit us in future if we find another sponsor
>>>>>>> who would like to add a different scenario).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It helps if the accronym is pronounceable, ie has a vowel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I suggest (in my order of preference)
>>>>>>> 1. Geospatial Integration Showcase Challenge (GISC)
>>>>>>> 2. Geospatial Integration Showcase for Climate Change (GISCC).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> mapbutcher wrote:
>>>>>>>> Bruce,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We need to find a catchy name and acronym. Suggestions
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> welcome.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll start with:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Climate Competition - OGC (CC-OGC)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Global Geospatial Climate Challenge" (GGCC)
>>>>>>>> "Open Geospatial Climate Challenge" (OGCC)
>>>>>>>> "Geospatial Technology Together"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not too good at this sort of thing..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _Proposal_
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Bureau of Meteorology is prepared to contribute:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - $30,000 AUD in sponsorship towards this OGC
>>>>>>>>> 'Integration
>>>>>>>>> Showcase' or whatever we end up calling it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (Funding would be available next financial year).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bruce would there be any conditions on this funding?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Climate related data (preparation will be required)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> + Tabular, including point data (Oracle/Postgres)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> + GRID, NetCDF
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> + Raster satellite imagery
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - We won't be able to distribute topographic data,
>>>>>>>>> however other Australian Federal Government Agencies could
>>>>>>>>> be approached to allow this to
>>>>>>>> occur.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Climate related scenario to drive a solution,e.g.:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> + What were the meteorological conditions at a particular
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> place and
>>>>>>>>> time or over a particular period or area?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> + What are the climate characteristics of a particular
>>>>>>>>> place or region?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> + How have those characteristics varied over time?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> + How are they likely to vary in the future - over a
>>>>>>>>> season, from year to year or decade to decade?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> These may need to be fine tuned.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _Other Potential Sponsorship_
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Having a Climate Change related scenario, should reduce
>>>>>>>>> the resistance that we may encounter in encouraging
>>>>>>>>> organisations to participate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think this is a good idea. This is top of the agenda and
>>>>>>>> many organisations/vendors/particpants will want to
>>>>>>>> demonstrate how their solutions can address these topical
>>>>>>>> issues:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How can open standards together with GIS functionality help
>>>>>>>> us to:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **visualise and understand the effects of climate change
>>>>>>>> **address a particular climate change issue - water
>>>>>>>> resources seem an obvious and relevant local issue
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If BOM are stumping up funding perhaps they are well placed
>>>>>>>> to lay out some of the challenges on their agenda? i.e. what
>>>>>>>> issues are they wanting to address with geospatial
>>>>>>>> technology?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Servers
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> + We could approach some of the big vendors and offer
>>>>>>>>> them the opportunity to demonstrate the capabilities of
>>>>>>>>> their hardware to handle such an environment. The vendor
>>>>>>>>> may even offer systems administration support.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Virtualisation
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> + Similarly, we could approach the large virtualisation
>>>>>>>>> vendors who would, I'm sure, welcome the chance to showcase
>>>>>>>>> their product. Similarly, they would also
>>>>>>>>> probably provide systems administration support.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _What do we want to see_
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Pilot 'Solutions' to answering climate questions using
>>>>>>>>> OGC
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Services.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Working prototype 'Solutions' using supplied data.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Documentation describing the Technical Architecture and
>>>>>>>>>  approach taken.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think it would be good to specify this further - we don't
>>>>>>>> just want a load of paper work - I'd like to see some form of
>>>>>>>>  avi/presentation/slideset that talks through the
>>>>>>>> architecture
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _Constraints_
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - The design of the solution is left to the competitor.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - The Solution may be Open Source, Proprietary, or a mix
>>>>>>>>> of Open Source and Proprietary components.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - The Solution must maximise the use of OGC Services and
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Standards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - The Solution must be available for further evaluation
>>>>>>>>> by the
>>>>>>>> OGC and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bureau of Meteorology after the competition ends.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Judging is to be by a technical panel nominated by the
>>>>>>>>> OGC. No
>>>>>>>>> correspondence will be entered into.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think we'd need to deliver some criteria - i.e. points
>>>>>>>> will be allocated on the following:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Demonstration of OGC standards
>>>>>>>> *Interoperability with basic technology *stack*
>>>>>>>> *Innovation
>>>>>>>> *Ability to demonstrate real world relevance
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Simon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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