[Foss4g2009] Re: FOSS4G 2009 Website Submissions
Volker Mische
volker.mische at gmail.com
Wed Jan 7 06:55:18 EST 2009
Hi All,
I like to keep the effort as minimal as possible. Therefore I would say
solution 2+3.
I see no problem if everyone who wants to submit a workshop/abstract has
to register. It takes 5min for everyone, and all of them should be
capable of registering at a website. And it would save our time to find
a workaround with a dummy user.
I guess for the voting we need to get it somehow out of the database,
but this should be a matter of a small script.
One open question for me is: What do we use for voting. I like
http://www.ideatorrent.org/. The problem is that once a workshop is in
the "top 10" it's likely that people just vote for those at the top, and
not the ones at the bottom.
Cheers,
Volker
mapbutcher wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I've begun to configure the 2009 OCS conference pages on the OCS
> instance on the OSGeo box. If you don't already have an account it may
> be an idea to create one:
>
> http://conference.osgeo.org/index.php/foss4g/2009/user/account
>
> Volker, Shoaib - any preference on which way we should go based upon my
> earlier email?
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Simon
>
>
> 2009/1/5 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>>
>
> Copying to the foss4g2009 email list for archiving.
>
>
> Lorenzo Becchi wrote:
>
> Hi Simon, thank you to include me in this list.
> I would suggest to use a mailing list to go on with this
> conversation because it is important to have it archived, IMO.
> another thing I would like to suggest is the use of a wiki page,
> you've made so many important questions that it is normal that
> you will receive an answer at the time, if you're lucky ;-)
>
> my experience with OCS is still very limited, I've just set up
> an instance [1] to practice. The instalation is pretty easy if
> you don't have safe_mode php (I do).
>
> I've started a private conversation with Tyler about part of
> your questions and he has discovered interesting features that I
> guess he will comment to everybody.
>
> I'll check out the few answers I can maybe give while we decide
> if it's worth to move the conversation to foss4g2009 mailing list.
>
> ciao
> Lorenzo
>
> [1] http://foss4g2010.org
>
>
>
> mapbutcher wrote:
>
> All, (Lorenzo cc'd because of your recent emails to
> OSGeo-conf, Gavin your experience of OCS in 2008 may help
> shape our choice of scenario?)
>
> We need to 'integrate' the current site
> (http:.//2009.foss4g.org/ <http://2009.foss4g.org/>
> <http://2009.foss4g.org/>) with OCS for 2009. We need to
> have these processes handled:
>
> 1. Workshop submission (2nd February 2009 Call for
> workshops open)
> 2. Abstract submission (9th March 2009 Call for abstracts
> open)
>
> I've purposefully not discussed here the presentation of the
> conference programme on the website as i feel this adds a
> layer of complexity to the integration which we should
> handle separately. Instead I suggest we work on this
> separate from the submission process - any feelings on
> this? Given the time frames I'd like to suggest the
> following - I'm open to other scenarios but please consider
> our time frame:
>
> Scenario 1 - Partial Integration
>
> a) We develop a workshop proposal and abstract submission
> page external from OCS for the current site
> (http://2009.foss4g.org/).
> b) Ideally it would be preferable if these pages do not
> require authorisation to make the process of submission
> simple (If possible? - see clarification questions below)
> c) Submissions are made directly into the OCS database via
> an OCS API (If possible? - see clarification questions below)
> d) Submissions are reviewed internally by OC using OCS (If
> possible? - see clarification questions below)
>
> Scenario 2 - OCS
>
> a) We link a new submission page on the current site to
> OSGeo OCS instance (ideally the most obvious entry point -
> i.e. register, submission but not just OCS home)
> b) We use what css capability in OCS to make these sites
> 'appear as one'
> c) Workshop proposals are put through as submissions in OCS
> under a 'workshop' track
> d) We follow the OCS work flows for review
>
> Scenario 3 - OCS and Review through current site
>
> a) We follow scenario 1 or 2 (probably 2) above until
> submission is complete
> b) We provide visibility onto OCS data from the current site
> for the following (both of these we develop outside of OCS):
> i) Workshop and Presentation Open Vote
> ii)Online Programme
> From a practical point of view we have limited time &
> resources. Granted OCS has cosmetic issues as well as having
> a rather rigid work flow but it brings a certain amount to
> the table which we may not have the resources to replicate
> in time for the workshop and abstract submission opening.
> Personally I cannot throw much time at this in January,
> Shoaib & Volker what is your availability? Given this my
> preference would be Scenario 3 with the following outline
> approach:
>
> 1. Create 2009 Conference in OCS on OSGeo box (easy)
> 2. Configure the necessary parts for submissions (more time
> consuming, but not tricky)
> 3. Set up styles(again a bit time consuming)
> 4. Test submission work flow
> 5. Create registration page on 2009.foss4g outlining
> submission
> work flow and with links into OCS
> 6. Begin to develop a workshop and presentation open vote
> page\backend for 2009.foss4g
> 7. Begin to develop a programme page\backend for 2009.foss4g
>
> Below are some clarification questions that Shoaib and I
> discussed when we met in December which some people may be
> able to answer
>
> 1. What version of OCS is OSGeo using currently?
> 2. What backend does OSGeo use for OCS?
> 3. Does OCS allow abstracts once reviewed and approved to be
> 'assigned' to a time slot in the programme?
> 4. OCS does not support 'workshop' proposal submission is this
> correct? i.e. it only supports abstract submission
> 5. What information do we need to gather as part of workshop
> submissions?
> 6. Does OCS support ATOM/RSS and iCal feed creation
> 7. Does OCS allow the program to be displayed on a website
> in the
> form of a calender, my understanding is that OCS only
> displays a
> conference program as a list?
> 8. Does OCS have support for conference Streams/Themes? if
> so does
> if allow Abstracts and Workshops to be assigned to
> Themes? My
> understanding is that OCS uses 'Tracks' to do this?
> 9. Does OCS have an API to submit abstracts so the we can
> call it
> directly from the foss4g website without having to
> transition to
> another site. e.g. can we setup the abstract submission
> form on
> FOSS4G that calls the OCS with an HTTP Post request. My
> understanding is that there isn't an API and there are
> some very
> basic import mechanisms
> 10. How does OCS support email notification of
> proposal/abstract
> submission & approval?
> 11. Does OCS require every user to login with the correct
> roles or
> can we by-pass this requirement to simplify the the
> abstract/workshop submission? e.g. will this require a
> proxy user?
> 12. If we submit Abstract/Workshops to the back end
> directly (by
> passing OCS) can OCS still be used to review and
> approve them?
> 13. How hard is it to change the theme and layout of the OCS
> webpages so that the transition between the foss4g site
> and OCS
> is as smooth as possible
>
>
> We need to begin to move on this ASAP so if we can gather
> feedback, preferences etc by 8th Dec:
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240
> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240>
> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240
> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240>>
>
>
> Cameron can we take a decision on the way forward thereafter?
>
> Simon
>
>
>
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