[Foss4g2009] Re: FOSS4G 2009 Website Submissions

Volker Mische volker.mische at gmail.com
Wed Jan 7 06:55:18 EST 2009


Hi All,

I like to keep the effort as minimal as possible. Therefore  I would say
solution 2+3.

I see no problem if everyone who wants to submit a workshop/abstract has
to register. It takes 5min for everyone, and all of them should be
capable of registering at a website. And it would save our time to find
a workaround with a dummy user.

I guess for the voting we need to get it somehow out of the database,
but this should be a matter of a small script.

One open question for me is: What do we use for voting. I like
http://www.ideatorrent.org/. The problem is that once a workshop is in
the "top 10" it's likely that people just vote for those at the top, and
not the ones at the bottom.

Cheers,
  Volker

mapbutcher wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> I've begun to configure the 2009 OCS conference pages on the OCS
> instance on the OSGeo box. If you don't already have an account it may
> be an idea to create one:
> 
> http://conference.osgeo.org/index.php/foss4g/2009/user/account
> 
> Volker, Shoaib - any preference on which way we should go based upon my
> earlier email?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> 2009/1/5 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>>
> 
>     Copying to the foss4g2009 email list for archiving.
> 
> 
>     Lorenzo Becchi wrote:
> 
>         Hi Simon, thank you to include me in this list.
>         I would suggest to use a mailing list to go on with this
>         conversation because it is important to have it archived, IMO.
>         another thing I would like to suggest is the use of a wiki page,
>         you've made so many important questions that it is normal that
>         you will receive an answer at the time, if you're lucky ;-)
> 
>         my experience with OCS is still very limited, I've just set up
>         an instance [1] to practice. The instalation is pretty easy if
>         you don't have safe_mode php (I do).
> 
>         I've started a private conversation with Tyler about part of
>         your questions and he has discovered interesting features that I
>         guess he will comment to everybody.
> 
>         I'll check out the few answers I can maybe give while we decide
>         if it's worth to move the conversation to foss4g2009 mailing list.
> 
>         ciao
>         Lorenzo
> 
>         [1] http://foss4g2010.org
> 
> 
> 
>         mapbutcher wrote:
> 
>             All, (Lorenzo cc'd because of your recent emails to
>             OSGeo-conf, Gavin your experience of OCS in 2008 may help
>             shape our choice of scenario?)
> 
>             We need to 'integrate' the current site
>             (http:.//2009.foss4g.org/ <http://2009.foss4g.org/>
>             <http://2009.foss4g.org/>) with OCS for 2009. We need to
>             have these processes handled:
> 
>               1. Workshop submission (2nd February 2009 Call for
>             workshops open)
>               2. Abstract submission (9th March 2009 Call for abstracts
>             open)
> 
>             I've purposefully not discussed here the presentation of the
>             conference programme on the website as i feel this adds a
>             layer of complexity to the integration which we should
>             handle separately. Instead I suggest we work on this
>             separate from the submission process -  any feelings on
>             this? Given the time frames I'd like to suggest the
>             following  - I'm open to other scenarios but please consider
>             our time frame:
> 
>             Scenario 1 - Partial Integration
> 
>             a) We develop a workshop proposal and abstract submission
>             page external from OCS for the current site
>             (http://2009.foss4g.org/).
>             b) Ideally it would be preferable if these pages do not
>             require authorisation to make the process of submission
>             simple (If possible? - see clarification questions below)
>             c) Submissions are made directly into the OCS database via
>             an OCS API (If possible? - see clarification questions below)
>             d) Submissions are reviewed internally by OC using OCS (If
>             possible? - see clarification questions below)
> 
>             Scenario 2 - OCS
> 
>             a) We link a new submission page on the current site to
>             OSGeo OCS instance (ideally the most obvious entry point -
>             i.e. register, submission but not just OCS home)
>             b) We use what css capability in OCS to make these sites
>             'appear as one'
>             c) Workshop proposals are put through as submissions in OCS
>             under a 'workshop' track
>             d) We follow the OCS work flows for review
> 
>             Scenario 3 -  OCS and Review through current site
> 
>             a) We follow scenario 1 or 2 (probably 2) above until
>             submission is complete
>             b) We provide visibility onto OCS data from the current site
>             for the following (both of these we develop outside of OCS):
>                i) Workshop and Presentation Open Vote
>                ii)Online Programme
>               From a practical point of view we have limited time &
>             resources. Granted OCS has cosmetic issues as well as having
>             a rather rigid work flow but it brings a certain amount to
>             the table which we may not have the resources to replicate
>             in time for the workshop and abstract submission opening.
>             Personally I cannot throw much time at this in January,
>             Shoaib & Volker what is your availability? Given this my
>             preference would be Scenario 3 with the following outline
>             approach:
> 
>               1. Create 2009 Conference in OCS on OSGeo box (easy)
>               2. Configure the necessary parts for submissions (more time
>                  consuming, but not tricky)
>               3. Set up styles(again a bit time consuming)
>               4. Test submission work flow
>               5. Create registration page on 2009.foss4g outlining
>             submission
>                  work flow and with links into OCS
>               6. Begin to develop a workshop and presentation open vote
>                  page\backend for 2009.foss4g
>               7. Begin to develop a programme page\backend for 2009.foss4g
> 
>             Below are some clarification questions that Shoaib and I
>             discussed when we met in December which some people may be
>             able to answer
> 
>               1. What version of OCS is OSGeo using currently?
>               2. What backend does OSGeo use for OCS?
>               3. Does OCS allow abstracts once reviewed and approved to be
>                  'assigned' to a time slot in the programme?
>               4. OCS does not support 'workshop' proposal submission is this
>                  correct? i.e. it only supports abstract submission
>               5. What information do we need to gather as part of workshop
>                  submissions?
>               6. Does OCS support ATOM/RSS and iCal feed creation
>               7. Does OCS allow the program to be displayed on a website
>             in the
>                  form of a calender, my understanding is that OCS only
>             displays a
>                  conference program as a list?
>               8. Does OCS have support for conference Streams/Themes? if
>             so does
>                  if allow Abstracts and Workshops to be assigned to
>             Themes? My
>                  understanding is that OCS uses 'Tracks' to do this?
>               9. Does OCS have an API to submit abstracts so the we can
>             call it
>                  directly from the foss4g website without having to
>             transition to
>                  another site. e.g. can we setup the abstract submission
>             form on
>                  FOSS4G that calls the OCS with an HTTP Post request. My
>                  understanding is that there isn't an API and there are
>             some very
>                  basic import mechanisms
>              10. How does OCS support email notification of
>             proposal/abstract
>                  submission & approval?
>              11. Does OCS require every user to login with the correct
>             roles or
>                  can we by-pass this requirement to simplify the the
>                  abstract/workshop submission? e.g. will this require a
>             proxy user?
>              12. If we submit Abstract/Workshops to the back end
>             directly (by
>                  passing OCS) can OCS still be used to review and
>             approve them?
>              13. How hard is it to change the theme and layout of the OCS
>                  webpages so that the transition between the foss4g site
>             and OCS
>                  is as smooth as possible
> 
> 
>             We need to begin to move on this ASAP so if we can gather
>             feedback, preferences etc by 8th Dec:
>             http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240
>             <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240>
>             <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240
>             <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240>>
> 
> 
>             Cameron can we take a decision on the way forward thereafter?
> 
>             Simon
> 
> 
> 
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