[Foss4g2009] Re: FOSS4G 2009 Website Submissions
Paul Ramsey
pramsey at cleverelephant.ca
Wed Jan 7 11:16:24 EST 2009
I gave people a list of everything, in random order, with the ability
so sub-set it with a keyword search. So if they wanted, the could vote
on only PostGIS things, and if they started from the top and worked
down then got tired, we'd still get a randomly distributed set of
preferences.
P.
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:55 AM, Volker Mische <volker.mische at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I like to keep the effort as minimal as possible. Therefore I would say
> solution 2+3.
>
> I see no problem if everyone who wants to submit a workshop/abstract has
> to register. It takes 5min for everyone, and all of them should be
> capable of registering at a website. And it would save our time to find
> a workaround with a dummy user.
>
> I guess for the voting we need to get it somehow out of the database,
> but this should be a matter of a small script.
>
> One open question for me is: What do we use for voting. I like
> http://www.ideatorrent.org/. The problem is that once a workshop is in
> the "top 10" it's likely that people just vote for those at the top, and
> not the ones at the bottom.
>
> Cheers,
> Volker
>
> mapbutcher wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> I've begun to configure the 2009 OCS conference pages on the OCS
>> instance on the OSGeo box. If you don't already have an account it may
>> be an idea to create one:
>>
>> http://conference.osgeo.org/index.php/foss4g/2009/user/account
>>
>> Volker, Shoaib - any preference on which way we should go based upon my
>> earlier email?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>> 2009/1/5 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
>> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>>
>>
>> Copying to the foss4g2009 email list for archiving.
>>
>>
>> Lorenzo Becchi wrote:
>>
>> Hi Simon, thank you to include me in this list.
>> I would suggest to use a mailing list to go on with this
>> conversation because it is important to have it archived, IMO.
>> another thing I would like to suggest is the use of a wiki page,
>> you've made so many important questions that it is normal that
>> you will receive an answer at the time, if you're lucky ;-)
>>
>> my experience with OCS is still very limited, I've just set up
>> an instance [1] to practice. The instalation is pretty easy if
>> you don't have safe_mode php (I do).
>>
>> I've started a private conversation with Tyler about part of
>> your questions and he has discovered interesting features that I
>> guess he will comment to everybody.
>>
>> I'll check out the few answers I can maybe give while we decide
>> if it's worth to move the conversation to foss4g2009 mailing list.
>>
>> ciao
>> Lorenzo
>>
>> [1] http://foss4g2010.org
>>
>>
>>
>> mapbutcher wrote:
>>
>> All, (Lorenzo cc'd because of your recent emails to
>> OSGeo-conf, Gavin your experience of OCS in 2008 may help
>> shape our choice of scenario?)
>>
>> We need to 'integrate' the current site
>> (http:.//2009.foss4g.org/ <http://2009.foss4g.org/>
>> <http://2009.foss4g.org/>) with OCS for 2009. We need to
>> have these processes handled:
>>
>> 1. Workshop submission (2nd February 2009 Call for
>> workshops open)
>> 2. Abstract submission (9th March 2009 Call for abstracts
>> open)
>>
>> I've purposefully not discussed here the presentation of the
>> conference programme on the website as i feel this adds a
>> layer of complexity to the integration which we should
>> handle separately. Instead I suggest we work on this
>> separate from the submission process - any feelings on
>> this? Given the time frames I'd like to suggest the
>> following - I'm open to other scenarios but please consider
>> our time frame:
>>
>> Scenario 1 - Partial Integration
>>
>> a) We develop a workshop proposal and abstract submission
>> page external from OCS for the current site
>> (http://2009.foss4g.org/).
>> b) Ideally it would be preferable if these pages do not
>> require authorisation to make the process of submission
>> simple (If possible? - see clarification questions below)
>> c) Submissions are made directly into the OCS database via
>> an OCS API (If possible? - see clarification questions below)
>> d) Submissions are reviewed internally by OC using OCS (If
>> possible? - see clarification questions below)
>>
>> Scenario 2 - OCS
>>
>> a) We link a new submission page on the current site to
>> OSGeo OCS instance (ideally the most obvious entry point -
>> i.e. register, submission but not just OCS home)
>> b) We use what css capability in OCS to make these sites
>> 'appear as one'
>> c) Workshop proposals are put through as submissions in OCS
>> under a 'workshop' track
>> d) We follow the OCS work flows for review
>>
>> Scenario 3 - OCS and Review through current site
>>
>> a) We follow scenario 1 or 2 (probably 2) above until
>> submission is complete
>> b) We provide visibility onto OCS data from the current site
>> for the following (both of these we develop outside of OCS):
>> i) Workshop and Presentation Open Vote
>> ii)Online Programme
>> From a practical point of view we have limited time &
>> resources. Granted OCS has cosmetic issues as well as having
>> a rather rigid work flow but it brings a certain amount to
>> the table which we may not have the resources to replicate
>> in time for the workshop and abstract submission opening.
>> Personally I cannot throw much time at this in January,
>> Shoaib & Volker what is your availability? Given this my
>> preference would be Scenario 3 with the following outline
>> approach:
>>
>> 1. Create 2009 Conference in OCS on OSGeo box (easy)
>> 2. Configure the necessary parts for submissions (more time
>> consuming, but not tricky)
>> 3. Set up styles(again a bit time consuming)
>> 4. Test submission work flow
>> 5. Create registration page on 2009.foss4g outlining
>> submission
>> work flow and with links into OCS
>> 6. Begin to develop a workshop and presentation open vote
>> page\backend for 2009.foss4g
>> 7. Begin to develop a programme page\backend for 2009.foss4g
>>
>> Below are some clarification questions that Shoaib and I
>> discussed when we met in December which some people may be
>> able to answer
>>
>> 1. What version of OCS is OSGeo using currently?
>> 2. What backend does OSGeo use for OCS?
>> 3. Does OCS allow abstracts once reviewed and approved to be
>> 'assigned' to a time slot in the programme?
>> 4. OCS does not support 'workshop' proposal submission is this
>> correct? i.e. it only supports abstract submission
>> 5. What information do we need to gather as part of workshop
>> submissions?
>> 6. Does OCS support ATOM/RSS and iCal feed creation
>> 7. Does OCS allow the program to be displayed on a website
>> in the
>> form of a calender, my understanding is that OCS only
>> displays a
>> conference program as a list?
>> 8. Does OCS have support for conference Streams/Themes? if
>> so does
>> if allow Abstracts and Workshops to be assigned to
>> Themes? My
>> understanding is that OCS uses 'Tracks' to do this?
>> 9. Does OCS have an API to submit abstracts so the we can
>> call it
>> directly from the foss4g website without having to
>> transition to
>> another site. e.g. can we setup the abstract submission
>> form on
>> FOSS4G that calls the OCS with an HTTP Post request. My
>> understanding is that there isn't an API and there are
>> some very
>> basic import mechanisms
>> 10. How does OCS support email notification of
>> proposal/abstract
>> submission & approval?
>> 11. Does OCS require every user to login with the correct
>> roles or
>> can we by-pass this requirement to simplify the the
>> abstract/workshop submission? e.g. will this require a
>> proxy user?
>> 12. If we submit Abstract/Workshops to the back end
>> directly (by
>> passing OCS) can OCS still be used to review and
>> approve them?
>> 13. How hard is it to change the theme and layout of the OCS
>> webpages so that the transition between the foss4g site
>> and OCS
>> is as smooth as possible
>>
>>
>> We need to begin to move on this ASAP so if we can gather
>> feedback, preferences etc by 8th Dec:
>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240
>> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240>
>> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240
>> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240>>
>>
>>
>> Cameron can we take a decision on the way forward thereafter?
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>>
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>> Geospatial Systems Architect
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>>
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