[Foss4g2009] Re: FOSS4G 2009 Website Submissions

Volker Mische volker.mische at gmail.com
Wed Jan 7 16:40:12 EST 2009


Hi Paul,

This sounds like a good idea. Is the software you used still there, or
do we need to build our own?

Cheers,
  Volker

Paul Ramsey wrote:
> I gave people a list of everything, in random order, with the ability
> so sub-set it with a keyword search. So if they wanted, the could vote
> on only PostGIS things, and if they started from the top and worked
> down then got tired, we'd still get a randomly distributed set of
> preferences.
> 
> P.
> 
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:55 AM, Volker Mische <volker.mische at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I like to keep the effort as minimal as possible. Therefore  I would say
>> solution 2+3.
>>
>> I see no problem if everyone who wants to submit a workshop/abstract has
>> to register. It takes 5min for everyone, and all of them should be
>> capable of registering at a website. And it would save our time to find
>> a workaround with a dummy user.
>>
>> I guess for the voting we need to get it somehow out of the database,
>> but this should be a matter of a small script.
>>
>> One open question for me is: What do we use for voting. I like
>> http://www.ideatorrent.org/. The problem is that once a workshop is in
>> the "top 10" it's likely that people just vote for those at the top, and
>> not the ones at the bottom.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>  Volker
>>
>> mapbutcher wrote:
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I've begun to configure the 2009 OCS conference pages on the OCS
>>> instance on the OSGeo box. If you don't already have an account it may
>>> be an idea to create one:
>>>
>>> http://conference.osgeo.org/index.php/foss4g/2009/user/account
>>>
>>> Volker, Shoaib - any preference on which way we should go based upon my
>>> earlier email?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/1/5 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>>
>>>
>>>     Copying to the foss4g2009 email list for archiving.
>>>
>>>
>>>     Lorenzo Becchi wrote:
>>>
>>>         Hi Simon, thank you to include me in this list.
>>>         I would suggest to use a mailing list to go on with this
>>>         conversation because it is important to have it archived, IMO.
>>>         another thing I would like to suggest is the use of a wiki page,
>>>         you've made so many important questions that it is normal that
>>>         you will receive an answer at the time, if you're lucky ;-)
>>>
>>>         my experience with OCS is still very limited, I've just set up
>>>         an instance [1] to practice. The instalation is pretty easy if
>>>         you don't have safe_mode php (I do).
>>>
>>>         I've started a private conversation with Tyler about part of
>>>         your questions and he has discovered interesting features that I
>>>         guess he will comment to everybody.
>>>
>>>         I'll check out the few answers I can maybe give while we decide
>>>         if it's worth to move the conversation to foss4g2009 mailing list.
>>>
>>>         ciao
>>>         Lorenzo
>>>
>>>         [1] http://foss4g2010.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         mapbutcher wrote:
>>>
>>>             All, (Lorenzo cc'd because of your recent emails to
>>>             OSGeo-conf, Gavin your experience of OCS in 2008 may help
>>>             shape our choice of scenario?)
>>>
>>>             We need to 'integrate' the current site
>>>             (http:.//2009.foss4g.org/ <http://2009.foss4g.org/>
>>>             <http://2009.foss4g.org/>) with OCS for 2009. We need to
>>>             have these processes handled:
>>>
>>>               1. Workshop submission (2nd February 2009 Call for
>>>             workshops open)
>>>               2. Abstract submission (9th March 2009 Call for abstracts
>>>             open)
>>>
>>>             I've purposefully not discussed here the presentation of the
>>>             conference programme on the website as i feel this adds a
>>>             layer of complexity to the integration which we should
>>>             handle separately. Instead I suggest we work on this
>>>             separate from the submission process -  any feelings on
>>>             this? Given the time frames I'd like to suggest the
>>>             following  - I'm open to other scenarios but please consider
>>>             our time frame:
>>>
>>>             Scenario 1 - Partial Integration
>>>
>>>             a) We develop a workshop proposal and abstract submission
>>>             page external from OCS for the current site
>>>             (http://2009.foss4g.org/).
>>>             b) Ideally it would be preferable if these pages do not
>>>             require authorisation to make the process of submission
>>>             simple (If possible? - see clarification questions below)
>>>             c) Submissions are made directly into the OCS database via
>>>             an OCS API (If possible? - see clarification questions below)
>>>             d) Submissions are reviewed internally by OC using OCS (If
>>>             possible? - see clarification questions below)
>>>
>>>             Scenario 2 - OCS
>>>
>>>             a) We link a new submission page on the current site to
>>>             OSGeo OCS instance (ideally the most obvious entry point -
>>>             i.e. register, submission but not just OCS home)
>>>             b) We use what css capability in OCS to make these sites
>>>             'appear as one'
>>>             c) Workshop proposals are put through as submissions in OCS
>>>             under a 'workshop' track
>>>             d) We follow the OCS work flows for review
>>>
>>>             Scenario 3 -  OCS and Review through current site
>>>
>>>             a) We follow scenario 1 or 2 (probably 2) above until
>>>             submission is complete
>>>             b) We provide visibility onto OCS data from the current site
>>>             for the following (both of these we develop outside of OCS):
>>>                i) Workshop and Presentation Open Vote
>>>                ii)Online Programme
>>>               From a practical point of view we have limited time &
>>>             resources. Granted OCS has cosmetic issues as well as having
>>>             a rather rigid work flow but it brings a certain amount to
>>>             the table which we may not have the resources to replicate
>>>             in time for the workshop and abstract submission opening.
>>>             Personally I cannot throw much time at this in January,
>>>             Shoaib & Volker what is your availability? Given this my
>>>             preference would be Scenario 3 with the following outline
>>>             approach:
>>>
>>>               1. Create 2009 Conference in OCS on OSGeo box (easy)
>>>               2. Configure the necessary parts for submissions (more time
>>>                  consuming, but not tricky)
>>>               3. Set up styles(again a bit time consuming)
>>>               4. Test submission work flow
>>>               5. Create registration page on 2009.foss4g outlining
>>>             submission
>>>                  work flow and with links into OCS
>>>               6. Begin to develop a workshop and presentation open vote
>>>                  page\backend for 2009.foss4g
>>>               7. Begin to develop a programme page\backend for 2009.foss4g
>>>
>>>             Below are some clarification questions that Shoaib and I
>>>             discussed when we met in December which some people may be
>>>             able to answer
>>>
>>>               1. What version of OCS is OSGeo using currently?
>>>               2. What backend does OSGeo use for OCS?
>>>               3. Does OCS allow abstracts once reviewed and approved to be
>>>                  'assigned' to a time slot in the programme?
>>>               4. OCS does not support 'workshop' proposal submission is this
>>>                  correct? i.e. it only supports abstract submission
>>>               5. What information do we need to gather as part of workshop
>>>                  submissions?
>>>               6. Does OCS support ATOM/RSS and iCal feed creation
>>>               7. Does OCS allow the program to be displayed on a website
>>>             in the
>>>                  form of a calender, my understanding is that OCS only
>>>             displays a
>>>                  conference program as a list?
>>>               8. Does OCS have support for conference Streams/Themes? if
>>>             so does
>>>                  if allow Abstracts and Workshops to be assigned to
>>>             Themes? My
>>>                  understanding is that OCS uses 'Tracks' to do this?
>>>               9. Does OCS have an API to submit abstracts so the we can
>>>             call it
>>>                  directly from the foss4g website without having to
>>>             transition to
>>>                  another site. e.g. can we setup the abstract submission
>>>             form on
>>>                  FOSS4G that calls the OCS with an HTTP Post request. My
>>>                  understanding is that there isn't an API and there are
>>>             some very
>>>                  basic import mechanisms
>>>              10. How does OCS support email notification of
>>>             proposal/abstract
>>>                  submission & approval?
>>>              11. Does OCS require every user to login with the correct
>>>             roles or
>>>                  can we by-pass this requirement to simplify the the
>>>                  abstract/workshop submission? e.g. will this require a
>>>             proxy user?
>>>              12. If we submit Abstract/Workshops to the back end
>>>             directly (by
>>>                  passing OCS) can OCS still be used to review and
>>>             approve them?
>>>              13. How hard is it to change the theme and layout of the OCS
>>>                  webpages so that the transition between the foss4g site
>>>             and OCS
>>>                  is as smooth as possible
>>>
>>>
>>>             We need to begin to move on this ASAP so if we can gather
>>>             feedback, preferences etc by 8th Dec:
>>>             http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240
>>>             <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240>
>>>             <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240
>>>             <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240>>
>>>
>>>
>>>             Cameron can we take a decision on the way forward thereafter?
>>>
>>>             Simon
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>     Cameron Shorter
>>>     Geospatial Systems Architect
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>>>
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