[Foss4g2009] Re: FOSS4G 2009 Website Submissions
Volker Mische
volker.mische at gmail.com
Wed Jan 7 16:40:12 EST 2009
Hi Paul,
This sounds like a good idea. Is the software you used still there, or
do we need to build our own?
Cheers,
Volker
Paul Ramsey wrote:
> I gave people a list of everything, in random order, with the ability
> so sub-set it with a keyword search. So if they wanted, the could vote
> on only PostGIS things, and if they started from the top and worked
> down then got tired, we'd still get a randomly distributed set of
> preferences.
>
> P.
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:55 AM, Volker Mische <volker.mische at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I like to keep the effort as minimal as possible. Therefore I would say
>> solution 2+3.
>>
>> I see no problem if everyone who wants to submit a workshop/abstract has
>> to register. It takes 5min for everyone, and all of them should be
>> capable of registering at a website. And it would save our time to find
>> a workaround with a dummy user.
>>
>> I guess for the voting we need to get it somehow out of the database,
>> but this should be a matter of a small script.
>>
>> One open question for me is: What do we use for voting. I like
>> http://www.ideatorrent.org/. The problem is that once a workshop is in
>> the "top 10" it's likely that people just vote for those at the top, and
>> not the ones at the bottom.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Volker
>>
>> mapbutcher wrote:
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I've begun to configure the 2009 OCS conference pages on the OCS
>>> instance on the OSGeo box. If you don't already have an account it may
>>> be an idea to create one:
>>>
>>> http://conference.osgeo.org/index.php/foss4g/2009/user/account
>>>
>>> Volker, Shoaib - any preference on which way we should go based upon my
>>> earlier email?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/1/5 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>>
>>>
>>> Copying to the foss4g2009 email list for archiving.
>>>
>>>
>>> Lorenzo Becchi wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Simon, thank you to include me in this list.
>>> I would suggest to use a mailing list to go on with this
>>> conversation because it is important to have it archived, IMO.
>>> another thing I would like to suggest is the use of a wiki page,
>>> you've made so many important questions that it is normal that
>>> you will receive an answer at the time, if you're lucky ;-)
>>>
>>> my experience with OCS is still very limited, I've just set up
>>> an instance [1] to practice. The instalation is pretty easy if
>>> you don't have safe_mode php (I do).
>>>
>>> I've started a private conversation with Tyler about part of
>>> your questions and he has discovered interesting features that I
>>> guess he will comment to everybody.
>>>
>>> I'll check out the few answers I can maybe give while we decide
>>> if it's worth to move the conversation to foss4g2009 mailing list.
>>>
>>> ciao
>>> Lorenzo
>>>
>>> [1] http://foss4g2010.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> mapbutcher wrote:
>>>
>>> All, (Lorenzo cc'd because of your recent emails to
>>> OSGeo-conf, Gavin your experience of OCS in 2008 may help
>>> shape our choice of scenario?)
>>>
>>> We need to 'integrate' the current site
>>> (http:.//2009.foss4g.org/ <http://2009.foss4g.org/>
>>> <http://2009.foss4g.org/>) with OCS for 2009. We need to
>>> have these processes handled:
>>>
>>> 1. Workshop submission (2nd February 2009 Call for
>>> workshops open)
>>> 2. Abstract submission (9th March 2009 Call for abstracts
>>> open)
>>>
>>> I've purposefully not discussed here the presentation of the
>>> conference programme on the website as i feel this adds a
>>> layer of complexity to the integration which we should
>>> handle separately. Instead I suggest we work on this
>>> separate from the submission process - any feelings on
>>> this? Given the time frames I'd like to suggest the
>>> following - I'm open to other scenarios but please consider
>>> our time frame:
>>>
>>> Scenario 1 - Partial Integration
>>>
>>> a) We develop a workshop proposal and abstract submission
>>> page external from OCS for the current site
>>> (http://2009.foss4g.org/).
>>> b) Ideally it would be preferable if these pages do not
>>> require authorisation to make the process of submission
>>> simple (If possible? - see clarification questions below)
>>> c) Submissions are made directly into the OCS database via
>>> an OCS API (If possible? - see clarification questions below)
>>> d) Submissions are reviewed internally by OC using OCS (If
>>> possible? - see clarification questions below)
>>>
>>> Scenario 2 - OCS
>>>
>>> a) We link a new submission page on the current site to
>>> OSGeo OCS instance (ideally the most obvious entry point -
>>> i.e. register, submission but not just OCS home)
>>> b) We use what css capability in OCS to make these sites
>>> 'appear as one'
>>> c) Workshop proposals are put through as submissions in OCS
>>> under a 'workshop' track
>>> d) We follow the OCS work flows for review
>>>
>>> Scenario 3 - OCS and Review through current site
>>>
>>> a) We follow scenario 1 or 2 (probably 2) above until
>>> submission is complete
>>> b) We provide visibility onto OCS data from the current site
>>> for the following (both of these we develop outside of OCS):
>>> i) Workshop and Presentation Open Vote
>>> ii)Online Programme
>>> From a practical point of view we have limited time &
>>> resources. Granted OCS has cosmetic issues as well as having
>>> a rather rigid work flow but it brings a certain amount to
>>> the table which we may not have the resources to replicate
>>> in time for the workshop and abstract submission opening.
>>> Personally I cannot throw much time at this in January,
>>> Shoaib & Volker what is your availability? Given this my
>>> preference would be Scenario 3 with the following outline
>>> approach:
>>>
>>> 1. Create 2009 Conference in OCS on OSGeo box (easy)
>>> 2. Configure the necessary parts for submissions (more time
>>> consuming, but not tricky)
>>> 3. Set up styles(again a bit time consuming)
>>> 4. Test submission work flow
>>> 5. Create registration page on 2009.foss4g outlining
>>> submission
>>> work flow and with links into OCS
>>> 6. Begin to develop a workshop and presentation open vote
>>> page\backend for 2009.foss4g
>>> 7. Begin to develop a programme page\backend for 2009.foss4g
>>>
>>> Below are some clarification questions that Shoaib and I
>>> discussed when we met in December which some people may be
>>> able to answer
>>>
>>> 1. What version of OCS is OSGeo using currently?
>>> 2. What backend does OSGeo use for OCS?
>>> 3. Does OCS allow abstracts once reviewed and approved to be
>>> 'assigned' to a time slot in the programme?
>>> 4. OCS does not support 'workshop' proposal submission is this
>>> correct? i.e. it only supports abstract submission
>>> 5. What information do we need to gather as part of workshop
>>> submissions?
>>> 6. Does OCS support ATOM/RSS and iCal feed creation
>>> 7. Does OCS allow the program to be displayed on a website
>>> in the
>>> form of a calender, my understanding is that OCS only
>>> displays a
>>> conference program as a list?
>>> 8. Does OCS have support for conference Streams/Themes? if
>>> so does
>>> if allow Abstracts and Workshops to be assigned to
>>> Themes? My
>>> understanding is that OCS uses 'Tracks' to do this?
>>> 9. Does OCS have an API to submit abstracts so the we can
>>> call it
>>> directly from the foss4g website without having to
>>> transition to
>>> another site. e.g. can we setup the abstract submission
>>> form on
>>> FOSS4G that calls the OCS with an HTTP Post request. My
>>> understanding is that there isn't an API and there are
>>> some very
>>> basic import mechanisms
>>> 10. How does OCS support email notification of
>>> proposal/abstract
>>> submission & approval?
>>> 11. Does OCS require every user to login with the correct
>>> roles or
>>> can we by-pass this requirement to simplify the the
>>> abstract/workshop submission? e.g. will this require a
>>> proxy user?
>>> 12. If we submit Abstract/Workshops to the back end
>>> directly (by
>>> passing OCS) can OCS still be used to review and
>>> approve them?
>>> 13. How hard is it to change the theme and layout of the OCS
>>> webpages so that the transition between the foss4g site
>>> and OCS
>>> is as smooth as possible
>>>
>>>
>>> We need to begin to move on this ASAP so if we can gather
>>> feedback, preferences etc by 8th Dec:
>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240
>>> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240>
>>> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240
>>> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cameron can we take a decision on the way forward thereafter?
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Cameron Shorter
>>> Geospatial Systems Architect
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