[Foss4g2009] Re: FOSS4G 2009 Website Submissions
Volker Mische
volker.mische at gmail.com
Thu Jan 8 16:32:53 EST 2009
It would be nice if you could send it to me. I already expected (a) and
(b), though it might be a good reference to get started.
Cheers,
Volker
Paul Ramsey wrote:
> It's still around, and I can send it to you. It's (a) ugly and (b)
> fairly specific to the database design I used for abstract management.
>
> P.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Volker Mische <volker.mische at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> This sounds like a good idea. Is the software you used still there, or
>> do we need to build our own?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Volker
>>
>> Paul Ramsey wrote:
>>> I gave people a list of everything, in random order, with the ability
>>> so sub-set it with a keyword search. So if they wanted, the could vote
>>> on only PostGIS things, and if they started from the top and worked
>>> down then got tired, we'd still get a randomly distributed set of
>>> preferences.
>>>
>>> P.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:55 AM, Volker Mische <volker.mische at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I like to keep the effort as minimal as possible. Therefore I would say
>>>> solution 2+3.
>>>>
>>>> I see no problem if everyone who wants to submit a workshop/abstract has
>>>> to register. It takes 5min for everyone, and all of them should be
>>>> capable of registering at a website. And it would save our time to find
>>>> a workaround with a dummy user.
>>>>
>>>> I guess for the voting we need to get it somehow out of the database,
>>>> but this should be a matter of a small script.
>>>>
>>>> One open question for me is: What do we use for voting. I like
>>>> http://www.ideatorrent.org/. The problem is that once a workshop is in
>>>> the "top 10" it's likely that people just vote for those at the top, and
>>>> not the ones at the bottom.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Volker
>>>>
>>>> mapbutcher wrote:
>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've begun to configure the 2009 OCS conference pages on the OCS
>>>>> instance on the OSGeo box. If you don't already have an account it may
>>>>> be an idea to create one:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://conference.osgeo.org/index.php/foss4g/2009/user/account
>>>>>
>>>>> Volker, Shoaib - any preference on which way we should go based upon my
>>>>> earlier email?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Simon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/1/5 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Copying to the foss4g2009 email list for archiving.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lorenzo Becchi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Simon, thank you to include me in this list.
>>>>> I would suggest to use a mailing list to go on with this
>>>>> conversation because it is important to have it archived, IMO.
>>>>> another thing I would like to suggest is the use of a wiki page,
>>>>> you've made so many important questions that it is normal that
>>>>> you will receive an answer at the time, if you're lucky ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> my experience with OCS is still very limited, I've just set up
>>>>> an instance [1] to practice. The instalation is pretty easy if
>>>>> you don't have safe_mode php (I do).
>>>>>
>>>>> I've started a private conversation with Tyler about part of
>>>>> your questions and he has discovered interesting features that I
>>>>> guess he will comment to everybody.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll check out the few answers I can maybe give while we decide
>>>>> if it's worth to move the conversation to foss4g2009 mailing list.
>>>>>
>>>>> ciao
>>>>> Lorenzo
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] http://foss4g2010.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> mapbutcher wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> All, (Lorenzo cc'd because of your recent emails to
>>>>> OSGeo-conf, Gavin your experience of OCS in 2008 may help
>>>>> shape our choice of scenario?)
>>>>>
>>>>> We need to 'integrate' the current site
>>>>> (http:.//2009.foss4g.org/ <http://2009.foss4g.org/>
>>>>> <http://2009.foss4g.org/>) with OCS for 2009. We need to
>>>>> have these processes handled:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Workshop submission (2nd February 2009 Call for
>>>>> workshops open)
>>>>> 2. Abstract submission (9th March 2009 Call for abstracts
>>>>> open)
>>>>>
>>>>> I've purposefully not discussed here the presentation of the
>>>>> conference programme on the website as i feel this adds a
>>>>> layer of complexity to the integration which we should
>>>>> handle separately. Instead I suggest we work on this
>>>>> separate from the submission process - any feelings on
>>>>> this? Given the time frames I'd like to suggest the
>>>>> following - I'm open to other scenarios but please consider
>>>>> our time frame:
>>>>>
>>>>> Scenario 1 - Partial Integration
>>>>>
>>>>> a) We develop a workshop proposal and abstract submission
>>>>> page external from OCS for the current site
>>>>> (http://2009.foss4g.org/).
>>>>> b) Ideally it would be preferable if these pages do not
>>>>> require authorisation to make the process of submission
>>>>> simple (If possible? - see clarification questions below)
>>>>> c) Submissions are made directly into the OCS database via
>>>>> an OCS API (If possible? - see clarification questions below)
>>>>> d) Submissions are reviewed internally by OC using OCS (If
>>>>> possible? - see clarification questions below)
>>>>>
>>>>> Scenario 2 - OCS
>>>>>
>>>>> a) We link a new submission page on the current site to
>>>>> OSGeo OCS instance (ideally the most obvious entry point -
>>>>> i.e. register, submission but not just OCS home)
>>>>> b) We use what css capability in OCS to make these sites
>>>>> 'appear as one'
>>>>> c) Workshop proposals are put through as submissions in OCS
>>>>> under a 'workshop' track
>>>>> d) We follow the OCS work flows for review
>>>>>
>>>>> Scenario 3 - OCS and Review through current site
>>>>>
>>>>> a) We follow scenario 1 or 2 (probably 2) above until
>>>>> submission is complete
>>>>> b) We provide visibility onto OCS data from the current site
>>>>> for the following (both of these we develop outside of OCS):
>>>>> i) Workshop and Presentation Open Vote
>>>>> ii)Online Programme
>>>>> From a practical point of view we have limited time &
>>>>> resources. Granted OCS has cosmetic issues as well as having
>>>>> a rather rigid work flow but it brings a certain amount to
>>>>> the table which we may not have the resources to replicate
>>>>> in time for the workshop and abstract submission opening.
>>>>> Personally I cannot throw much time at this in January,
>>>>> Shoaib & Volker what is your availability? Given this my
>>>>> preference would be Scenario 3 with the following outline
>>>>> approach:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Create 2009 Conference in OCS on OSGeo box (easy)
>>>>> 2. Configure the necessary parts for submissions (more time
>>>>> consuming, but not tricky)
>>>>> 3. Set up styles(again a bit time consuming)
>>>>> 4. Test submission work flow
>>>>> 5. Create registration page on 2009.foss4g outlining
>>>>> submission
>>>>> work flow and with links into OCS
>>>>> 6. Begin to develop a workshop and presentation open vote
>>>>> page\backend for 2009.foss4g
>>>>> 7. Begin to develop a programme page\backend for 2009.foss4g
>>>>>
>>>>> Below are some clarification questions that Shoaib and I
>>>>> discussed when we met in December which some people may be
>>>>> able to answer
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. What version of OCS is OSGeo using currently?
>>>>> 2. What backend does OSGeo use for OCS?
>>>>> 3. Does OCS allow abstracts once reviewed and approved to be
>>>>> 'assigned' to a time slot in the programme?
>>>>> 4. OCS does not support 'workshop' proposal submission is this
>>>>> correct? i.e. it only supports abstract submission
>>>>> 5. What information do we need to gather as part of workshop
>>>>> submissions?
>>>>> 6. Does OCS support ATOM/RSS and iCal feed creation
>>>>> 7. Does OCS allow the program to be displayed on a website
>>>>> in the
>>>>> form of a calender, my understanding is that OCS only
>>>>> displays a
>>>>> conference program as a list?
>>>>> 8. Does OCS have support for conference Streams/Themes? if
>>>>> so does
>>>>> if allow Abstracts and Workshops to be assigned to
>>>>> Themes? My
>>>>> understanding is that OCS uses 'Tracks' to do this?
>>>>> 9. Does OCS have an API to submit abstracts so the we can
>>>>> call it
>>>>> directly from the foss4g website without having to
>>>>> transition to
>>>>> another site. e.g. can we setup the abstract submission
>>>>> form on
>>>>> FOSS4G that calls the OCS with an HTTP Post request. My
>>>>> understanding is that there isn't an API and there are
>>>>> some very
>>>>> basic import mechanisms
>>>>> 10. How does OCS support email notification of
>>>>> proposal/abstract
>>>>> submission & approval?
>>>>> 11. Does OCS require every user to login with the correct
>>>>> roles or
>>>>> can we by-pass this requirement to simplify the the
>>>>> abstract/workshop submission? e.g. will this require a
>>>>> proxy user?
>>>>> 12. If we submit Abstract/Workshops to the back end
>>>>> directly (by
>>>>> passing OCS) can OCS still be used to review and
>>>>> approve them?
>>>>> 13. How hard is it to change the theme and layout of the OCS
>>>>> webpages so that the transition between the foss4g site
>>>>> and OCS
>>>>> is as smooth as possible
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We need to begin to move on this ASAP so if we can gather
>>>>> feedback, preferences etc by 8th Dec:
>>>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240
>>>>> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240>
>>>>> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240
>>>>> <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cameron can we take a decision on the way forward thereafter?
>>>>>
>>>>> Simon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cameron Shorter
>>>>> Geospatial Systems Architect
>>>>> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
>>>>> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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