[Foss4g2009] Re: FOSS4G 2009 Website Submissions
mapbutcher
mapbutcher at mapbutcher.com
Thu Jan 8 16:59:05 EST 2009
All,
Whenever I'm getting spare time I'm starting to configure the 09 OCS
instance - I'll keep the list posted.
I'm trying to strip out as much of the UI to keep it focussed on the
submission process - I'd like to keep the main site the primary site and not
duplicate content across to OCS
http://conference.osgeo.org/index.php/foss4g2009/
Cheers
Simon
2009/1/9 Volker Mische <volker.mische at gmail.com>
> It would be nice if you could send it to me. I already expected (a) and
> (b), though it might be a good reference to get started.
>
> Cheers,
> Volker
>
> Paul Ramsey wrote:
> > It's still around, and I can send it to you. It's (a) ugly and (b)
> > fairly specific to the database design I used for abstract management.
> >
> > P.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Volker Mische <volker.mische at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Hi Paul,
> >>
> >> This sounds like a good idea. Is the software you used still there, or
> >> do we need to build our own?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Volker
> >>
> >> Paul Ramsey wrote:
> >>> I gave people a list of everything, in random order, with the ability
> >>> so sub-set it with a keyword search. So if they wanted, the could vote
> >>> on only PostGIS things, and if they started from the top and worked
> >>> down then got tired, we'd still get a randomly distributed set of
> >>> preferences.
> >>>
> >>> P.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:55 AM, Volker Mische <volker.mische at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> Hi All,
> >>>>
> >>>> I like to keep the effort as minimal as possible. Therefore I would
> say
> >>>> solution 2+3.
> >>>>
> >>>> I see no problem if everyone who wants to submit a workshop/abstract
> has
> >>>> to register. It takes 5min for everyone, and all of them should be
> >>>> capable of registering at a website. And it would save our time to
> find
> >>>> a workaround with a dummy user.
> >>>>
> >>>> I guess for the voting we need to get it somehow out of the database,
> >>>> but this should be a matter of a small script.
> >>>>
> >>>> One open question for me is: What do we use for voting. I like
> >>>> http://www.ideatorrent.org/. The problem is that once a workshop is
> in
> >>>> the "top 10" it's likely that people just vote for those at the top,
> and
> >>>> not the ones at the bottom.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Volker
> >>>>
> >>>> mapbutcher wrote:
> >>>>> Folks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've begun to configure the 2009 OCS conference pages on the OCS
> >>>>> instance on the OSGeo box. If you don't already have an account it
> may
> >>>>> be an idea to create one:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://conference.osgeo.org/index.php/foss4g/2009/user/account
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Volker, Shoaib - any preference on which way we should go based upon
> my
> >>>>> earlier email?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Simon
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2009/1/5 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
> >>>>> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Copying to the foss4g2009 email list for archiving.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Lorenzo Becchi wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Simon, thank you to include me in this list.
> >>>>> I would suggest to use a mailing list to go on with this
> >>>>> conversation because it is important to have it archived,
> IMO.
> >>>>> another thing I would like to suggest is the use of a wiki
> page,
> >>>>> you've made so many important questions that it is normal
> that
> >>>>> you will receive an answer at the time, if you're lucky ;-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> my experience with OCS is still very limited, I've just set
> up
> >>>>> an instance [1] to practice. The instalation is pretty easy
> if
> >>>>> you don't have safe_mode php (I do).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've started a private conversation with Tyler about part of
> >>>>> your questions and he has discovered interesting features
> that I
> >>>>> guess he will comment to everybody.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'll check out the few answers I can maybe give while we
> decide
> >>>>> if it's worth to move the conversation to foss4g2009 mailing
> list.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ciao
> >>>>> Lorenzo
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] http://foss4g2010.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> mapbutcher wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> All, (Lorenzo cc'd because of your recent emails to
> >>>>> OSGeo-conf, Gavin your experience of OCS in 2008 may help
> >>>>> shape our choice of scenario?)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We need to 'integrate' the current site
> >>>>> (http:.//2009.foss4g.org/ <http://2009.foss4g.org/>
> >>>>> <http://2009.foss4g.org/>) with OCS for 2009. We need to
> >>>>> have these processes handled:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. Workshop submission (2nd February 2009 Call for
> >>>>> workshops open)
> >>>>> 2. Abstract submission (9th March 2009 Call for
> abstracts
> >>>>> open)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've purposefully not discussed here the presentation of
> the
> >>>>> conference programme on the website as i feel this adds a
> >>>>> layer of complexity to the integration which we should
> >>>>> handle separately. Instead I suggest we work on this
> >>>>> separate from the submission process - any feelings on
> >>>>> this? Given the time frames I'd like to suggest the
> >>>>> following - I'm open to other scenarios but please
> consider
> >>>>> our time frame:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Scenario 1 - Partial Integration
> >>>>>
> >>>>> a) We develop a workshop proposal and abstract submission
> >>>>> page external from OCS for the current site
> >>>>> (http://2009.foss4g.org/).
> >>>>> b) Ideally it would be preferable if these pages do not
> >>>>> require authorisation to make the process of submission
> >>>>> simple (If possible? - see clarification questions below)
> >>>>> c) Submissions are made directly into the OCS database
> via
> >>>>> an OCS API (If possible? - see clarification questions
> below)
> >>>>> d) Submissions are reviewed internally by OC using OCS
> (If
> >>>>> possible? - see clarification questions below)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Scenario 2 - OCS
> >>>>>
> >>>>> a) We link a new submission page on the current site to
> >>>>> OSGeo OCS instance (ideally the most obvious entry point
> -
> >>>>> i.e. register, submission but not just OCS home)
> >>>>> b) We use what css capability in OCS to make these sites
> >>>>> 'appear as one'
> >>>>> c) Workshop proposals are put through as submissions in
> OCS
> >>>>> under a 'workshop' track
> >>>>> d) We follow the OCS work flows for review
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Scenario 3 - OCS and Review through current site
> >>>>>
> >>>>> a) We follow scenario 1 or 2 (probably 2) above until
> >>>>> submission is complete
> >>>>> b) We provide visibility onto OCS data from the current
> site
> >>>>> for the following (both of these we develop outside of
> OCS):
> >>>>> i) Workshop and Presentation Open Vote
> >>>>> ii)Online Programme
> >>>>> From a practical point of view we have limited time &
> >>>>> resources. Granted OCS has cosmetic issues as well as
> having
> >>>>> a rather rigid work flow but it brings a certain amount
> to
> >>>>> the table which we may not have the resources to
> replicate
> >>>>> in time for the workshop and abstract submission opening.
> >>>>> Personally I cannot throw much time at this in January,
> >>>>> Shoaib & Volker what is your availability? Given this my
> >>>>> preference would be Scenario 3 with the following outline
> >>>>> approach:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. Create 2009 Conference in OCS on OSGeo box (easy)
> >>>>> 2. Configure the necessary parts for submissions (more
> time
> >>>>> consuming, but not tricky)
> >>>>> 3. Set up styles(again a bit time consuming)
> >>>>> 4. Test submission work flow
> >>>>> 5. Create registration page on 2009.foss4g outlining
> >>>>> submission
> >>>>> work flow and with links into OCS
> >>>>> 6. Begin to develop a workshop and presentation open
> vote
> >>>>> page\backend for 2009.foss4g
> >>>>> 7. Begin to develop a programme page\backend for
> 2009.foss4g
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Below are some clarification questions that Shoaib and I
> >>>>> discussed when we met in December which some people may
> be
> >>>>> able to answer
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. What version of OCS is OSGeo using currently?
> >>>>> 2. What backend does OSGeo use for OCS?
> >>>>> 3. Does OCS allow abstracts once reviewed and approved
> to be
> >>>>> 'assigned' to a time slot in the programme?
> >>>>> 4. OCS does not support 'workshop' proposal submission
> is this
> >>>>> correct? i.e. it only supports abstract submission
> >>>>> 5. What information do we need to gather as part of
> workshop
> >>>>> submissions?
> >>>>> 6. Does OCS support ATOM/RSS and iCal feed creation
> >>>>> 7. Does OCS allow the program to be displayed on a
> website
> >>>>> in the
> >>>>> form of a calender, my understanding is that OCS
> only
> >>>>> displays a
> >>>>> conference program as a list?
> >>>>> 8. Does OCS have support for conference Streams/Themes?
> if
> >>>>> so does
> >>>>> if allow Abstracts and Workshops to be assigned to
> >>>>> Themes? My
> >>>>> understanding is that OCS uses 'Tracks' to do this?
> >>>>> 9. Does OCS have an API to submit abstracts so the we
> can
> >>>>> call it
> >>>>> directly from the foss4g website without having to
> >>>>> transition to
> >>>>> another site. e.g. can we setup the abstract
> submission
> >>>>> form on
> >>>>> FOSS4G that calls the OCS with an HTTP Post request.
> My
> >>>>> understanding is that there isn't an API and there
> are
> >>>>> some very
> >>>>> basic import mechanisms
> >>>>> 10. How does OCS support email notification of
> >>>>> proposal/abstract
> >>>>> submission & approval?
> >>>>> 11. Does OCS require every user to login with the
> correct
> >>>>> roles or
> >>>>> can we by-pass this requirement to simplify the the
> >>>>> abstract/workshop submission? e.g. will this require
> a
> >>>>> proxy user?
> >>>>> 12. If we submit Abstract/Workshops to the back end
> >>>>> directly (by
> >>>>> passing OCS) can OCS still be used to review and
> >>>>> approve them?
> >>>>> 13. How hard is it to change the theme and layout of the
> OCS
> >>>>> webpages so that the transition between the foss4g
> site
> >>>>> and OCS
> >>>>> is as smooth as possible
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We need to begin to move on this ASAP so if we can gather
> >>>>> feedback, preferences etc by 8th Dec:
> >>>>>
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240
> >>>>> <
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240
> >
> >>>>> <
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240
> >>>>> <
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=8&month=1&year=2009&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=240
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cameron can we take a decision on the way forward
> thereafter?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Simon
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Cameron Shorter
> >>>>> Geospatial Systems Architect
> >>>>> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
> >>>>> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
> >>>>>
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> >>>>> Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
> >>>>> http://www.lisasoft.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>
> >>
>
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