[Foss4g2009] Workshop printing

Sun Mar 29 15:16:30 EDT 2009

>
> 1. poor quality
>    I have done comb binding before, and the result wasn't that hot.
> Considering we're pushing instructors for quality and charging a premium
> I want to make sure the printing we're offering is high quality as
> well.  I'm sure we'll get better as we go, but that brings us to...

>>It isn't rocket science.....on a related point I attended a PostGIS
workshop in 2007 and received a very poorly binded document, perhaps this
was your handy work Mark? :)

Can you clarify what you mean by 'charging a premium'?

>
> 2. volunteer effort
>    We will need to print and bind up to 580 books.  I don't know how
> long this would take, but with a single binding machine, too long by far
> is my guess.  Even getting several binding machines mean we need a lot
> of people manning them over three weeks, and considering most of our
> volunteers are restricted to evenings and weekends, that may not be enough.

>>Yes i think this would be an issue, does it also highlight the need for us
to start canvassing for volunteer resources that we may need across the
conference as a whole?

>
> 3. risk
>    The points above really just lead to this.  We might be able to do
> it, but unless we have someone lurking around that has done this, can
> instruct us and give us some reliable metrics, we won't know if it will
> fly until we either succeed or fail.  This seems too important to me to
> fail, and I don't think adding $20 per delegate to make sure is asking
> too much.

>>Obviously this needs to be sorted prior to registration and I share your
concerns about resourcing this and the time taken to complete prior to the
conference.

>>+1 if the cost is directly added to workshop registration costs.

>
> --
> Mark
> Disagreement is welcome, but will be met with scepticism.
>
> mapbutcher wrote:
> > Mark,
> >
> > Do you think its feasible to look at a semi-DIY printing model?
> >
> > For example if we got our hands on the raw materials - printer, paper,
> binder and the bindings we might be able to do it cheaper? We'd have to find
> somewhere in Sydney
> >
> > 1 x pack of white A4 - $10
> > 1 x binding machine - $100
> > 1 x 50 comb bindings $15
> >
> > Then we need a printer and perhaps a donation of toner cartridges to the
> printer owner :) The owner of the printer might get another incentive?
> Publicity in the program?
> >
> > ...oh and someone to stand by the printer and keep feeding it paper. Then
> we could bring the prints and the bindings to the Monday pm workshop set
> up/satchel stuffing party?
> >
> > Feel free to tell me this is all a bit amateur?
> >
> > Simon
> >
> >
> > 2009/3/27 Mark Leslie <mark.leslie at lisasoft.com<mailto:
> mark.leslie at lisasoft.com>>
> >
> > Mark Leslie
> > Geospatial Software Architect
> > LISAsoft
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
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> > LISAsoft is part of the A2end Group of Companies
> > http://www.ardec.com.au
> > http://www.lisasoft.com
> > http://www.terrapages.com
> > I've clearly let this languish for too long, as I suddenly need more
> information.  A 2 week lead time sounds good to me, but I'm concerned about
> page limits.  I expect between 50 and 100 pages, and would be a bit choked
> with less for the price attendees are paying.  It looks as though we still
> have no quote on this amount of printing.  For my purposes, I want to be
> able to tell workshop instructors on Monday what is expected of them, ie. an
> acceptable number of pages and delivery timeline.  Does anyone think 50-100
> pages, comb bound (cheapest and will lie flat) is appropriate?
> >
> > I have an OfficeWorks price list in front of me, listed as valid until
> the end of the year, which puts black and white copies at 6c each between
> 501-3000 copies, colour at 75c each over 501, comb binding for up to 100
> pages at $1.95.  This would put 580 B&W books in the range of $2871-4611, or
> $9-16 per delegate, though there will be some additional costs for
> downloading documents and covers and such.
> >
> >
> > Shoaib Burq wrote:
> > I think all printed material + CD-ROMS should be ready to be handed
> > out to the registered attendees of the workshop. And I expect for
> > large workshops we may be expected to organise it before the start of
> > the conference. This would mean that we get the material from the
> > authors say 2 weeks before the workshop.
> >
> > The printing doesn't need to be fancy. Just plain black and white at
> > most a thermal binding. Can TH estimate what this would cost?
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Mark Leslie <mrk.leslie at gmail.com
> <mailto:mrk.leslie at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > We are stating in our call and submission instructions for workshops that
> we
> > are expecting additional materials to be produced for attendees, such as
> > handouts, workbooks or CD-ROMS.  Jody has brought up the question of what
> we
> > are willing to do to support this.  Should we be prepared to provide
> print
> > services for workshops; ie. instructors will upload material a week
> before
> > hand and we will have enough printed to cover their room?  Alternately we
> > can simply recommend a print shop near the convention center.  I believe
> > there's a kinkos nearby.
> >
> > I don't think it's a question of offering printing to tutorial
> presenters,
> > they will just get contact details for our preferred print shop.
> >
> > --
> > Mark Leslie
> > Geospatial Software Architect
> > LISAsoft
> >
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> > Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf 19-21 Pirrama Rd Pyrmont NSW 2009
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > LISAsoft is part of the A2end Group of Companies
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> > http://www.lisasoft.com
> > http://www.terrapages.com
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