[FOSS4G2016] "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge" - FOSS4G 2016 Student Competitions
Marc vloemans
marcvloemans1 at hotmail.com
Wed Sep 30 15:54:45 PDT 2015
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Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans
> Op 30 sep. 2015 om 17:32 heeft till.adams at fossgis.de het volgende geschreven:
>
> Hi Suchith,
>
> perfect - if anything we do would be that easy ;-)
>
> Regards, Till
>
>
> Am 2015-09-30 17:26, schrieb Suchith Anand:
>> Thanks Till. That is excellent idea. I also see no reason why we
>> should limit to only one student competition. So we will have an OSGeo
>> award based on OSGeo projects and also awards for any additional
>> student competitions.
>>
>> I will discuss with MapStory colleagues (and i am confident we will
>> be able to find a sponsor for the "Geo4All-MapStory Challenge" ).
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Suchith
>> ________________________________________
>> From: till.adams at fossgis.de [till.adams at fossgis.de]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 4:20 PM
>> To: Suchith Anand
>> Cc: Jeff McKenna; Suchith Anand; Christopher Tucker; Jonathan Marino;
>> Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Ron C Fortunato; Charles Schweik;
>> Nikos Lambrinos; Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); list
>> Subject: RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge" - FOSS4G 2016 Student
>> Competitions
>>
>> Hi Suchith,
>>>
>>> The main principle for Geo4All is Openness in GeoEducation. So we
>>> will follow up this idea in Geo4All. We can make this an "Geo4All -
>>> MapStory Challenge" ; (not for the main FOSS4G conference) but for
>>> some other opportunities in the future . I will discuss ideas for
>>> that in the Geo4All lists and get everyone's inputs/ideas on how we
>>> can make that happen.
>>
>> why not including that award also into the FOSS4G as well? In Seoul
>> there have been two student awards and I do not see a problem for this
>> at all. All i wanted to, is to make sure, that we have an OSgeo award
>> based on OSGeo projects on the conference, and I guess that is, what
>> Jeff also supports.
>>
>> Till
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Suchith
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: till.adams at fossgis.de [till.adams at fossgis.de]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 3:33 PM
>>> To: Jeff McKenna
>>> Cc: Suchith Anand; Christopher Tucker; Jonathan Marino; Elżbieta
>>> Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Ron C Fortunato; Charles Schweik; Nikos
>>> Lambrinos; Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); list
>>> Subject: Re: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge" - FOSS4G 2016 Student
>>> Competitions
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I follow Jeffs argumentation, I didn't check for the license of
>>> MapStory. In general it is like Jeff told: If this is an OSGeo event,
>>> at
>>> least for the OSgeo award (and I do not see any alternative on that)
>>> should follow OSGeo guidelines.
>>>
>>> So in general I stand also and support an OSgeo student award based
>>> on
>>> OSGeo projects.
>>>
>>> If there is another award (like in Seoul there was) which is paid by
>>> someone else, the guidelines might be different.
>>>
>>> (and I added the f4g 2016 local team list in the "CC's")
>>>
>>> Till
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 2015-09-29 21:39, schrieb Jeff McKenna:
>>>> OSGeo has about 10 projects in incubation, actually craving for
>>>> attention, publicity, help, to build their community, plus over 20
>>>> full OSGeo projects also wanting to continue building their strong
>>>> communities. If we are speaking of FOSS4G regional events, that are
>>>> actually not hosted by OSGeo, of course, please do promote any
>>>> software, but since this original message was in regards to FOSS4G
>>>> 2016 and sent directly to Till, the chair, yes I must make a stand,
>>>> for all of our projects in incubation and under our umbrella - the
>>>> student awards are a perfect place to promote our projects, as I've
>>>> said before, as students are the future of the industry. Getting
>>>> students using these projects is one of the keys to success for our
>>>> community.
>>>>
>>>> I hope this thread now moves to the public lists, where you can
>>>> share
>>>> my thoughts as-is.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone has thoughts that I am not open to other communities: I go
>>>> out of my way to accept other communities and projects (I even
>>>> worked
>>>> with Esri developers as part of a past FOSS4G benchmarking exercise
>>>> in
>>>> 2009). But for the closing plenary of our big event, the eyes of
>>>> OSGeo are on us, and yes we must promote our community's software.
>>>>
>>>> I realize that I may be the only one making this stand. But, as
>>>> OSGeo President, as a founding co-chair of GeoForAll, as one of the
>>>> 3
>>>> founders of FOSS4G, I hope you listen to my opinion and then discuss
>>>> this with the GeoForAll community (talking is important). Decisions
>>>> like this might seem minor, but impact a lot of people.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> -jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jeff McKenna
>>>> President, OSGeo
>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 2015-09-29 3:54 PM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
>>>>> Hi Suchith,
>>>>>
>>>>> It is unfortunate that you suggest removing OSGeo's sponsorship,
>>>>> very
>>>>> drastic. I also never mentioned any project by name. I did
>>>>> however
>>>>> request that you follow these guidelines for future FOSS4G events.
>>>>> It
>>>>> is unfortunate that you disagree. In that case, please do bring
>>>>> this
>>>>> discussion public (it should not be a private thread with just me
>>>>> defending OSGeo in its own conference).
>>>>>
>>>>> I can tell you that I get feedback (imagine in the closing plenary
>>>>> of
>>>>> FOSSS4G, in a big room filled with OSGeo project leads and
>>>>> developers)
>>>>> and then seeing software that is not truly Open Source and OSGeo.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are lots of conferences and events, but FOSS4G is hosted by
>>>>> OSGeo,
>>>>> and we must promote our projects.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please do bring this to the public list. You can leave all of my
>>>>> words
>>>>> as-is.
>>>>>
>>>>> -jeff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2015-09-29 3:48 PM, Suchith Anand wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apologies if i did not correctly understand correctly. My humble
>>>>>> opinion is that we have to be Open minded NOT narrow minded in
>>>>>> terms
>>>>>> of education. I cannot understand why MapStory platform cannot be
>>>>>> used
>>>>>> for running a student competition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From what i understand, MapStory is an openly licensed data
>>>>>>> commons,
>>>>>>> an Open Educational Resource, that is OGC compliant, built on
>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>> source geo http://www.GeoNode.org. It is intended explicitly for
>>>>>>> students to be able to organize and share what they know about
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> world spatially and temporally.This is exactly the kind of
>>>>>>> spatial
>>>>>>> learning platform we need for expanding geoeducation for schools.
>>>>>>> Just because it is not an OSGeo project does not mean it should
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> not be used. The main principle we need to look into is Openness
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> GeoEducation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We should support and make use ofMapStory.org , as an alternative
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> proprietary ones like ArcGISOnline, so that students and teachers
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> make use of this for learning purposes without being dependent on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> mercy of the proprietary vendor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For me , OSGeo represents Openness and welcome to everyone who
>>>>>> follows
>>>>>> the ideals. If we want to truly expand Geoeducation then please
>>>>>> welcome and support other initiatives into OSGeo and not look down
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> them (just because they are not OSGeo projects). This is the kind
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> spirit that we need , if we truly want to expand geoeducation
>>>>>> opportunities for all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think the 1k USD sponsorship for student awards is the
>>>>>> issue,
>>>>>> then no problem , we can try to find another sponsor who will be
>>>>>> open
>>>>>> minded to support this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Suchith
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>> From: Jeff McKenna [jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 6:42 PM
>>>>>> To: Suchith Anand; till.adams at fossgis.de
>>>>>> Cc: Christopher Tucker; Jonathan Marino; Elżbieta
>>>>>> Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Ron C Fortunato; Charles Schweik; Nikos
>>>>>> Lambrinos; Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
>>>>>> Subject: Re: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge" - FOSS4G 2016 Student
>>>>>> Competitions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Suchith, Till, all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think if we are speaking openly now, we should always remember
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> the global FOSS4G is hosted by the OSGeo foundation; in that
>>>>>> sense,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> feel that it is extremely important to showcase the OSGeo software
>>>>>> projects, and yes, especially to the students. What I saw at some
>>>>>> past
>>>>>> FOSS4G events was student competitions based around other software
>>>>>> (software that has nothing to do with OSGeo's event in fact, and
>>>>>> arguably software that is not even truly Open Source).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In terms of branding, this is a small detail but if we follow
>>>>>> this,
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> helps expand the name OSGeo, point out our strong standards and
>>>>>> benefits
>>>>>> of being a part of the OSGeo community, and helps the foundation
>>>>>> grow
>>>>>> globally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This could also be a great time to discuss these other projects
>>>>>> that you
>>>>>> like to promote to enter into the OSGeo umbrella, through our
>>>>>> incubation
>>>>>> process. There is a whole team of volunteers willing to help
>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I hope we can always keep this in mind, for each and every
>>>>>> FOSS4G
>>>>>> event.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jeff McKenna
>>>>>> President, OSGeo
>>>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2015-09-29 2:32 PM, Suchith Anand wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Till,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to start putting our ideas for the Student
>>>>>>> competition for
>>>>>>> FOSS4G 2016. You can get some ideas of our thinking based on our
>>>>>>> discussions below.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Our thinking is to organise the Student competitions for FOSS4G
>>>>>>> global
>>>>>>> conference using the MapStory platform as it will be excellent
>>>>>>> tool for
>>>>>>> widening participation (esp. to school level). The biggest
>>>>>>> advantage of
>>>>>>> using MapStory platform in addition to its openness is also the
>>>>>>> simplicity. So schools with very little resources even in
>>>>>>> developing
>>>>>>> countries can also participate (all they need is an internet
>>>>>>> connected
>>>>>>> PC ).Having Geo4All MapStory Challenge put in place, which we can
>>>>>>> aim to
>>>>>>> run every year at FOSS4G main conference will be excellent for
>>>>>>> spreading
>>>>>>> the message and building up global momentum.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Based on feedbacks from the community, Geo4All will do the
>>>>>>> background
>>>>>>> work of the competition (in close links with the LOC and MapStory
>>>>>>> Foundation).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With MapStory Challenge , we can now open up new opportunities
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> high
>>>>>>> school level students and their teachers to also participate in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Student competitions at the main FOSS4G conference. Also MapStory
>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>> good example of spatial learning platform we want to encourage
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> expanding geoeducation for schools as an alternative to
>>>>>>> proprietary ones
>>>>>>> and having a dedicated competition will be big boost for our
>>>>>>> efforts. We
>>>>>>> will need lot of efforts to get a good system in place for the
>>>>>>> competition.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also to make it clear - We have only small budget (maximum 1000
>>>>>>> USD )
>>>>>>> from the OSGeo Foundation for the Student Awards . Maybe some
>>>>>>> others
>>>>>>> might join in (like in Seoul, though we cannot confirm as of now)
>>>>>>> BUT we
>>>>>>> are very lucky to have a dedicated team of amazing people who
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>> us make this possible including support from Chris Tucker of
>>>>>>> MapStory
>>>>>>> Foundation for providing the competition platform.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We look forward to your ideas/inputs on how we can move forward.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suchith
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> *From:* Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [patrick.hogan at nasa.gov]
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 17, 2015 4:39 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* Charles Schweik; Nikos Lambrinos
>>>>>>> *Cc:* Christopher Tucker; Suchith Anand; Jonathan Marino;
>>>>>>> Elżbieta
>>>>>>> Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Ron C Fortunato
>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nikos and Chris,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Howdy! I just wanted to chime in with what Charlie has to say. It
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> very encouraging to hear the words of Nikos and sense the level
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> dedication and commitment to excellence. We often feel ourselves
>>>>>>> as very
>>>>>>> lonely peaceful warriors for a better world, but in fact there
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>> pressing forward with all their might, so that the future might
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> better for all. Without a better future, there is none. We must
>>>>>>> all be
>>>>>>> as informed as possible as to the state of our world. This is
>>>>>>> greatly
>>>>>>> helped if we can share our story, and it should feel good to
>>>>>>> share, or
>>>>>>> if not good, at least feel like we are helping truth to be more
>>>>>>> visible.
>>>>>>> A life with purpose is a full one that reverberates deeply in the
>>>>>>> sweetest possible way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Patrick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:*Charles Schweik [mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu]
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2015 11:20 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* Nikos Lambrinos
>>>>>>> *Cc:* Christopher Tucker; Suchith Anand; Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX);
>>>>>>> Jonathan Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Ron C Fortunato
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Inspiring Nikos, and thank you for your amazing commitment. I
>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>> I was
>>>>>>> thinking of you (even though we haven't met in person) during
>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>> tough days this summer with your country's financial issues and
>>>>>>> hope
>>>>>>> things become better!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One thing we can do is continue to work in small subteams toward
>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>> after funding and then keep trying to leverage those
>>>>>>> collaborative
>>>>>>> ideas
>>>>>>> in other funding opportunities. A sort of hybrid open source
>>>>>>> grant-getting I guess, between subsets of our community members
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> shared visions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 2:03 PM, <labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I read all this discussion which is very interesting. I would
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> add my experience.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In general I agree with Patrick because in our times nothing is
>>>>>>> easy to
>>>>>>> done without funding. Yes, not easy but not impossible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When, three years ago, I applied for the establishment of the
>>>>>>> Hellenic
>>>>>>> digital earth Centre of Excellence I was asked who is going to
>>>>>>> finance
>>>>>>> the Centre. I said, no one. They couldn’t believe that it will
>>>>>>> work. I
>>>>>>> said that it will be supported by volunteers. And, if it works
>>>>>>> then it
>>>>>>> will be great, if it doesn’t then we have nothing to lose.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After three years the Centre has a lot of activities to show, lot
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> seminars and workshops, and lot of teaching materials for the
>>>>>>> teachers
>>>>>>> and students. The only problem is that we can’t do things
>>>>>>> quickly.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> have spent a lot of money from my pocket and I will keep spending
>>>>>>> until
>>>>>>> the Centre gets funding. I am not going to quit. Everything would
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> easier if the Centre was funded (I have tried it but haven’t
>>>>>>> succeeded
>>>>>>> yet due to the financial crisis in Greece) but me and my
>>>>>>> colleagues will
>>>>>>> keep working for the Centre.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is the spirit. Don’t lose your courage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wishes to all wonderful people of the network
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nikos
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dr. Nikos Lambrinos
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Associate Professor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dept. of Primary Education
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aristotle University of Thessaloniki, Thessaloniki
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greece, GR-54124
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tel. +30 2310 991201
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Email: labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Web pages: _http://labrinos.webpages.auth.gr/digital_geography/_
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _http://www.digital-earth.edu.gr/_
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:*Christopher Tucker [mailto:christopher.tucker at gmail.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:christopher.tucker at gmail.com>]
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2015 5:56 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* Suchith Anand
>>>>>>> *Cc:* Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>; Jonathan Marino; Elżbieta
>>>>>>> Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Charlie Schweik
>>>>>>> (cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>>>>>>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>); Ron C Fortunato
>>>>>>> (ron at trilliumlearning.com <mailto:ron at trilliumlearning.com>)
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suchith,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I really appreciate what Patrick is trying to communicate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As a "startup guy" who has started up a number of things, I
>>>>>>> appreciate
>>>>>>> his characterization of what it takes to succeed without a large
>>>>>>> purse!
>>>>>>> - "a combination of a ridiculous amount of politicking,
>>>>>>> sorcery,
>>>>>>> favors, friendships, good luck, and just plain stupendous
>>>>>>> investment of
>>>>>>> work, blue-collar, grass-root, white-collar, directorial work,
>>>>>>> then more
>>>>>>> work." !!!! ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My question to Patrick is "what is the minimum purse size to get
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> attention of the vast majority of our target population. $10k
>>>>>>> might be
>>>>>>> feasible. $250k would not be.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I share your (Suchith) enthusiasm, and am happy to move forward
>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>> a huge purse, just to get the word out, without any illusions
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> will get the response that a large purse would enable. Patrick, I
>>>>>>> believe is spot on. But, alas, starting things up is a painful
>>>>>>> process
>>>>>>> that startup folks have to embrace! ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dr. Christopher K Tucker
>>>>>>> Chairman of the Board of Trustees
>>>>>>> The MapStory Foundation
>>>>>>> @MapStory
>>>>>>> tucker at mapstory.org <mailto:tucker at mapstory.org>
>>>>>>> 703-981-9373 <tel:703-981-9373>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 703-981-9373 <tel:703-981-9373>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 15, 2015, at 11:11 PM, Suchith Anand
>>>>>>> <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>>> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Patrick,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know it is hard work but if we want to expand geoeducation
>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>> Open principles to schools globally , i see this as a great
>>>>>>> opportunity
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is suggest is if MapStory Foundation (Chris, Jon) are
>>>>>>> happy to
>>>>>>> do what Maria Brovelli and Politecnico di Milano did for
>>>>>>> Europa
>>>>>>> challenge then that is a good starting point. More
>>>>>>> importantly, the
>>>>>>> competion will help spread wide awareness among teacher
>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>> worldwide that there is an alternative to ArcGIS Online and
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> freely make use of MapStory if they want.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We will request all our labs to send the info. out to their
>>>>>>> students, so even if we get 20 labs to participate in the
>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>> it is a good start. Because the entry level is low (they do
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>> need to be programmers!) we will have more participation.
>>>>>>> Slowly
>>>>>>> based on experience we will build upon it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris - what do you think? Will you be able to provide
>>>>>>> background
>>>>>>> support for this competition?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suchith
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:*Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [patrick.hogan at nasa.gov
>>>>>>> <mailto:patrick.hogan at nasa.gov>]
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2015 3:54 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* Suchith Anand; Christopher Tucker
>>>>>>> *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>> Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Charlie Schweik
>>>>>>> (cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>>>>>>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>); Ron
>>>>>>> C Fortunato (ron at trilliumlearning.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:ron at trilliumlearning.com>)
>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suchith,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You need the cold trout treatment, one good whack upside the
>>>>>>> head!
>>>>>>> $1,000 is peanuts. It’s a financial fig-leaf. A very nice
>>>>>>> gesture
>>>>>>> but not anything that will drive interest. Nor will judging
>>>>>>> panels
>>>>>>> **unless** they are ‘required’ to find contestant teams. And
>>>>>>> yes,
>>>>>>> good ones are hard to find, even without them working to
>>>>>>> generate
>>>>>>> contestant teams. I am just trying to let you know, that the
>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>> of activity to generate ‘’real’ tangible interest is a
>>>>>>> combination
>>>>>>> of a ridiculous amount of politicking, sorcery, favors,
>>>>>>> friendships,
>>>>>>> good luck, and just plain stupendous investment of work,
>>>>>>> blue-collar, grass-root, white-collar, directorial work,
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> work. Do not be fooled that a good idea gets a good
>>>>>>> following. You
>>>>>>> will need to pound the bushes long and hard. I’m trying to
>>>>>>> sober
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> up now rather than have you face disappointment later. And I
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> love to be completely off-base here. Just giving you a bit
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> voice
>>>>>>> from my three-year experience. And without Prof Maria
>>>>>>> Brovelli and
>>>>>>> Politecnico di Milano at Como, we would have never even
>>>>>>> gotten off
>>>>>>> the ground!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Patrick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (650) 604-5656 <tel:%28650%29%20604-5656> (office)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (650) 269-2788 <tel:%28650%29%20269-2788> (cell)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:*Suchith Anand [mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk]
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2015 7:22 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); Suchith Anand; Christopher
>>>>>>> Tucker
>>>>>>> *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>> Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Charlie Schweik
>>>>>>> (cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>>>>>>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>); Ron
>>>>>>> C Fortunato (ron at trilliumlearning.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:ron at trilliumlearning.com>)
>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, i now understand . True, we do not have a big purse but
>>>>>>> atleast
>>>>>>> we can start with the 1000USD that we have from OSGeo. I can
>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>> send requests to ICA and ISPRS to contribute. But you are
>>>>>>> absolutely
>>>>>>> right, this is something we need to think of how to attract
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> participation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But IMHO , more than the prize money, it is also getting the
>>>>>>> judging
>>>>>>> panels, infrastucture etc in place that is hard work. With
>>>>>>> MapStory
>>>>>>> platform in place (and we will need to get bit of help from
>>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>> Jon to setup a dedicated website and introductory tutorial
>>>>>>> links,
>>>>>>> instructions to teachers, participants etc) we are well
>>>>>>> placed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suchith
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:*Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [patrick.hogan at nasa.gov
>>>>>>> <mailto:patrick.hogan at nasa.gov>]
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2015 3:10 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* Suchith Anand; Christopher Tucker
>>>>>>> *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>> Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Charlie Schweik
>>>>>>> (cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>>>>>>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>); Ron
>>>>>>> C Fortunato (ron at trilliumlearning.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:ron at trilliumlearning.com>)
>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suchith,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That’s what I am trying to inform you of. You can promote
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> worldwide and with plenty of chutzpah, but without a big
>>>>>>> purse
>>>>>>> ($$$), you just don’t get traction. Without a big purse
>>>>>>> (which
>>>>>>> attracts too many teams to judge on this scale anyway, you
>>>>>>> need to
>>>>>>> actually find the teams directly (I mean **directly**), then
>>>>>>> encourage others accordingly (*directly*). I’d like to be
>>>>>>> wrong or
>>>>>>> at least rich so I could help more with the ($$$). But I am
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> letting you know, it’s not a **promote it** and they will
>>>>>>> come’
>>>>>>> kind
>>>>>>> of success story. You need to fight it hand-to-hand down in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> “mud, blood and beer” (from ‘A Boy Named Sue’ by Johnny
>>>>>>> Cash).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Patrick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:*Suchith Anand [mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk]
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2015 6:58 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); Suchith Anand; Christopher
>>>>>>> Tucker
>>>>>>> *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>> Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Charlie Schweik
>>>>>>> (cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>>>>>>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>); Ron
>>>>>>> C Fortunato (ron at trilliumlearning.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:ron at trilliumlearning.com>)
>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Patrick, We have to put lot of efforts to get prospective
>>>>>>> teams to
>>>>>>> apply but i am confident if we plan the MapStory competition
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> work hard to get it launched at Geography2050 and promote it
>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>> all our networks (ICA, OSGeo, ISPRS etc) , we will get good
>>>>>>> response. The Barbara Petchenik Competition map drawing
>>>>>>> competition for children run by ICA is an excellent example
>>>>>>> that we
>>>>>>> should look into . The aim of the contest is to promote the
>>>>>>> creative representation of the world in graphic form by
>>>>>>> children.
>>>>>>> Details are at http://icaci.org/petchenik/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With MapStory Challenge , we can now open up new
>>>>>>> opportunities for
>>>>>>> high school level students and their teachers to also
>>>>>>> participate in
>>>>>>> the G4A Student competitions at the main FOSS4G conference.
>>>>>>> Also
>>>>>>> MapStory is a good example of spatial learning platform we
>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>> encourage for expanding geoeducation for schools as an
>>>>>>> alternative
>>>>>>> to proprietary ones and having a dedicated competition will
>>>>>>> be big
>>>>>>> boost for our efforts. We will need lot of efforts to get a
>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>> system in place for the competition. All ideas/inputs
>>>>>>> welcome.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Europa Challenge as we discussed, we will expand with
>>>>>>> Research
>>>>>>> Data Alliance IGs to setup G4A-RDA-NASA "Smart City
>>>>>>> challenge".
>>>>>>> With Ron's and Charlie's help i am sure we will be able to
>>>>>>> expand
>>>>>>> this also.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suchith
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:*Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) [patrick.hogan at nasa.gov
>>>>>>> <mailto:patrick.hogan at nasa.gov>]
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 16, 2015 1:59 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* Suchith Anand; Christopher Tucker
>>>>>>> *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>> Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Charlie Schweik
>>>>>>> (cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu
>>>>>>> <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>); Ron
>>>>>>> C Fortunato (ron at trilliumlearning.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:ron at trilliumlearning.com>)
>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suchith,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I am the ‘spiritual brain’ of the Europa Challenge?!
>>>>>>> There’s an
>>>>>>> oxymoron for you! Or something quite beyond, yet still
>>>>>>> adding
>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>> up, a kind of Sufi Astrophysicist or Banking Buddha (a.k.a.
>>>>>>> It’s a
>>>>>>> Wonderful Life).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The one thing to know is that it is nowhere near ‘build it
>>>>>>> and they
>>>>>>> will come.’ You must blow on the coals round-the-clock with
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> might. . .inquire, nurture, sustain, cajole, threaten and
>>>>>>> beg
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> prospective teams to apply themselves to the ‘worthy’
>>>>>>> effort.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another thought is to benefit from what Ron Fortunato is
>>>>>>> doing with
>>>>>>> www.aWorldBridge.com <http://www.aWorldBridge.com>, whether
>>>>>>> it’s
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Global Earthquake Forecast System or the environmental
>>>>>>> evaluation
>>>>>>> work Ron is doing with Charlie Schweik. Both have lots of
>>>>>>> tech,
>>>>>>> plenty of science and all geospatial.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.edlinesites.net/pages/America_Bridge_Project/Europa_Challenge/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://westemthefuture.wordpress.com/summer-2015/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Patrick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (650) 604-5656 <tel:%28650%29%20604-5656> (office)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (650) 269-2788 <tel:%28650%29%20269-2788> (cell)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:*Suchith Anand [mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk]
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2015 1:20 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* Christopher Tucker; Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>>> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>>>>> *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>> Marino; Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska; Hogan, Patrick
>>>>>>> (ARC-PX)
>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Excellent Chris. Let us then plan ideas for this with Jon
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> others
>>>>>>> to make this happen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The good news is we now have the mandate and opportunity to
>>>>>>> fully
>>>>>>> organise the Student competitions for FOSS4G events (both
>>>>>>> global
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> regional) and i believe competitions build on MapStory
>>>>>>> platform
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> be excellent for widening participation (esp. to school
>>>>>>> level).I
>>>>>>> think the biggest advantage of using MapStory platform in
>>>>>>> addition
>>>>>>> to its openness is also the simplicity. So schools with very
>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>> resources even in developing countries canalso participate
>>>>>>> (all
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> need is an internet connected PC )
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ela (cc in) is already planning our inputs for FOSS4G 2016
>>>>>>> Bonn and
>>>>>>> having Geo4All MapStory Challenge put in place, which we can
>>>>>>> aim to
>>>>>>> runevery year at FOSS4G main conference will be excellent
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> spreading the message and building up global momentum.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Patrick (cc in) is the spiritual brain behind the successful
>>>>>>> Europa
>>>>>>> challenge http://eurochallenge.como.polimi.itI am sure he
>>>>>>> will be
>>>>>>> happy to share any inputs needs from his experiences andwe
>>>>>>> canlearn
>>>>>>> many things from Europa challenge, for example having
>>>>>>> student
>>>>>>> teams
>>>>>>> to participate (each team with a teacher and 3-5 students).
>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>> will also help us to expand the Teacher Training activities
>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>> MapStory platform.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Geography2050 will be an excellent platform to launch this
>>>>>>> initiative (if you are attending this, then please use that
>>>>>>> opportunity to launch this). This empowerment of teachers
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> students
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and openness is what we want Geography education to look in
>>>>>>> 2050.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suchith
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PS: Don't worry ,Next time you are at Nottingham, i will
>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>> arrangements so you can be at England’s first pub :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:*Christopher Tucker [tucker at mapstory.org
>>>>>>> <mailto:tucker at mapstory.org>]
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2015 7:36 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>>> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>>>>> *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>> Marino
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: "Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suchith,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You rock.What a great idea.Would love to support this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not at the Nottingham meetings.Wish I were!Last time I
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> there, I was hoping to go to England’s first pub, but I
>>>>>>> missed it!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would love to move the ball forward on a Geo4All MapStory
>>>>>>> Challenge.Let me research how the Europa Challenge
>>>>>>> unfolded.I
>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>> afraid I did not watch it closely enough.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any general input on how we should think about this?November
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be a good timeframe for doing something.Our relaunched site
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> coming imminentlyAnd, we have a few features and bugs that
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> hope
>>>>>>> to clear out by mid-October.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for thinking of us!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dr. Christopher K Tucker
>>>>>>> Chairman of the Board of Trustees
>>>>>>> The MapStory Foundation
>>>>>>> @MapStory
>>>>>>> tucker at mapstory.org <mailto:tucker at mapstory.org>
>>>>>>> 703-981-9373 <tel:703-981-9373>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:*Suchith Anand <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>>> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>>
>>>>>>> *Date:* September 15, 2015 at 8:47:54 AM EDT
>>>>>>> *To:* Christopher Tucker <tucker at mapstory.org
>>>>>>> <mailto:tucker at mapstory.org>>, Suchith Anand
>>>>>>> <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>>> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>>
>>>>>>> *Cc:* "labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>"
>>>>>>> <labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>>,
>>>>>>> Jonathan Marino <marino at mapstory.org
>>>>>>> <mailto:marino at mapstory.org>>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* *"Geo4All - MapStory Challenge"*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope you are doing well Are you participating in OGC
>>>>>>> Nottingham meetings?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Will need to plan ideas for more collaborations
>>>>>>> forMapStory.
>>>>>>> From the success of Patrick's Europa challenge, i am
>>>>>>> thinking of having a similar challenge for MapStory
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I saw details of http://www.geography2050.org
>>>>>>> <http://www.geography2050.org/>. May i suggest that
>>>>>>> we use
>>>>>>> this opportunity to launch "Geo4All - MapStory
>>>>>>> Challenge" .
>>>>>>> Geo4All will also be pleased to be one of the
>>>>>>> symposium
>>>>>>> partners for Geography 2050. What do you think?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suchith
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:*Christopher Tucker [tucker at mapstory.org
>>>>>>> <mailto:tucker at mapstory.org>]
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 04, 2015 1:04 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* Suchith Anand
>>>>>>> *Cc:* labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>;
>>>>>>> Jonathan Marino
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Paper about FOSS
>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>> geospatial education
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suchith,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry for my delay.I did not see this email when it
>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>> came across my inbox.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nikos,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately, my Greek is not very good! ;-)But, I
>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>> click on some of the links.And, some of them are
>>>>>>> clearly
>>>>>>> about change over time.These are perfect for
>>>>>>> MapStory.org
>>>>>>> <http://mapstory.org/>!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for mapping local history, an early leader in the
>>>>>>> MapStory community, Nitin Gadia mapped his home
>>>>>>> town,
>>>>>>> Ames
>>>>>>> Iowa, building by building and parcel by parcel from
>>>>>>> 1862
>>>>>>> until now:http://mapstory.org/maps/475/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He did this in 80 hours of his own time, getting
>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> the city, state, and Ames Historical Society and
>>>>>>> putting it
>>>>>>> in to MapStory.In retrospect, he was sure he could
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>> the same in 5 hours.So, he dubbed his effort
>>>>>>> “MapStory
>>>>>>> Local” and put together a cookbook that people could
>>>>>>> follow
>>>>>>> in their home towns.
>>>>>>> (http://wiki.mapstory.org/wiki/MapStory_Local,
>>>>>>> http://www.thenittygritty.org/mapstorylocal).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And, he is not really a GIS guy.Just a reasonably
>>>>>>> smart guy
>>>>>>> who had a goal.So, I think the same thing could be
>>>>>>> done by
>>>>>>> smart high-school kids around the world.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course, there are many other cool spatio-temporal
>>>>>>> datasets and stories that students and classes could
>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>> together and share as part of interesting learning
>>>>>>> experiences.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We would be happy to talk if you think there is any
>>>>>>> value in
>>>>>>> MapStory to you and your classes!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me know if we can be of help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dr. Christopher K Tucker
>>>>>>> Chairman of the Board of Trustees
>>>>>>> The MapStory Foundation
>>>>>>> @MapStory
>>>>>>> tucker at mapstory.org <mailto:tucker at mapstory.org>
>>>>>>> 703-981-9373 <tel:703-981-9373>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 21, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Suchith Anand
>>>>>>> <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>>> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Nikos for sharing this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am ccing Chrisas well, as maybe we can think of
>>>>>>> ideas of
>>>>>>> enabling this "The introduction of GIS and GPS
>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>> local
>>>>>>> history teaching in primary school"using MapStory,
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> other teachers can start using the idea for thier
>>>>>>> teaching.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris - what do you think?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suchith
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>> From: labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>
>>>>>>> [labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>]
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 5:47 PM
>>>>>>> To: 'Suchith Anand'
>>>>>>> Cc: labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Paper about FOSS into
>>>>>>> geospatial education
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Suchith,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is exactly what the Hellenic digital earth
>>>>>>> Centre of
>>>>>>> Excellence is
>>>>>>> doing the last two years. We use ArcGIS Online in
>>>>>>> primary
>>>>>>> schools and the
>>>>>>> children have done wonderful job like, tourist maps
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> village etc.
>>>>>>> You can see these maps in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.digital-earth.edu.gr/index.php/el/newsmodule/2015-05-14-20-50-38/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> schoolrelated which is in Greek but you can have an
>>>>>>> idea of
>>>>>>> what we have
>>>>>>> achieved almost with no cost. The students have been
>>>>>>> responding responsibly
>>>>>>> and this gives us more courage to continue in the
>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>> years.
>>>>>>> Anyone interested in this can download the article
>>>>>>> "The
>>>>>>> introduction of GIS
>>>>>>> and GPS through local history teaching in primary
>>>>>>> school" from
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.eurogeographyjournal.eu/articles/2.THE%20INTRODUCTION%20OF%20GIS%
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://www.eurogeographyjournal.eu/articles/2.THE%20INTRODUCTION%20OF%20GIS%25>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 20AND%20GPS%20THROUGH%20LOCAL%20HISTORY%20TEACHING%20IN%20PRIMARY%20SCHOOL-2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>> Nikos
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>> Dr. Nikos Lambrinos
>>>>>>> Associate Professor
>>>>>>> Dept. of Primary Education
>>>>>>> Aristotle University of Thessaloniki, Thessaloniki
>>>>>>> Greece, GR-54124
>>>>>>> Tel. +30 2310 991201
>>>>>>> Email: labrinos at eled.auth.gr
>>>>>>> <mailto:labrinos at eled.auth.gr>
>>>>>>> Web pages:
>>>>>>> http://labrinos.webpages.auth.gr/digital_geography/
>>>>>>> http://www.digital-earth.edu.gr/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>>>>>>> <mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>
>>>>>>> [mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>>>> Suchith Anand
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 7:26 PM
>>>>>>> To: Mueller, Thomas; Vaclav Petras; ICA OSGeo Labs
>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Paper about FOSS into
>>>>>>> geospatial education
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Great work Vaclav.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I understand from Dr. Christopher K Tucker (Chairman
>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>> Board of
>>>>>>> Trustees, The MapStory Foundation) cc in that when
>>>>>>> MapStory
>>>>>>> http://MapStory.org <http://mapstory.org/>
>>>>>>> relaunched
>>>>>>> later
>>>>>>> in June, it will be an openly licensed
>>>>>>> data commons, an Open Educational Resource, that is
>>>>>>> OGC
>>>>>>> compliant, built on
>>>>>>> open source geohttp://www.GeoNode.org
>>>>>>> <http://www.geonode.org/> .It is intended explicitly
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> students to be able to organize and share what they
>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>> about the world
>>>>>>> spatially and temporally.And, in the redesign, they
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> open up
>>>>>>> distributed versioned editing of change over time,
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> students can
>>>>>>> collaborate on data collection projects, and then
>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> own stories
>>>>>>> with this data. This is exactly the kind of spatial
>>>>>>> learning
>>>>>>> platform we
>>>>>>> need for expanding geoeducation for schools.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I suggest that,GeoForAll should support and make use
>>>>>>> ofMapStory.org <http://mapstory.org/>,
>>>>>>> as an alternative to proprietary ones like
>>>>>>> ArcGISOnline, so
>>>>>>> that students
>>>>>>> and teachers can make use of this for learning
>>>>>>> purposes
>>>>>>> without being
>>>>>>> dependent on the mercy of the proprietary vendor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please let me know your thoughts/ideas. We will add
>>>>>>> MapStory
>>>>>>> to our training
>>>>>>> resources section and promote this to all educators.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suchith
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