[Gdal-dev] RE: GDAL netcdf convention CF support

Norman Barker nbarker at rsinc.com
Thu Aug 18 09:36:14 EDT 2005



-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Warmerdam [mailto:fwarmerdam at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 2:24 PM
To: Norman Barker
Cc: gdal-dev at lists.maptools.org; galeon at unidata.ucar.edu
Subject: Re: [Gdal-dev] RE: GDAL netcdf convention CF support


On 8/18/05, Norman Barker <nbarker at rsinc.com> wrote:
> [Norman Barker]  
>   
> Hi, 
>   
> this is a really exciting announcement.  I have run ncdump on my netcdf file
> and checked the variables, and gdalinfo picks up the lat, lon, and ozone
> vars ok.  It puts the z-levels in bands within the data file which is ok
> since that was the way that we had done it with geotiff.  It has lost the
> information attaching the band level to an atmospheric height.  Even if this
> was a comma separated index string it would be useful.    It has also lost
> the Time dimension stamp within the file.  Again is this could just be a
> metadata tag that would be great. 

Norman / Denis,

I agree that attaching the dimension value(s) unrolled as bands as
band metatadata would be desirable.  
 
> I would like to help wrap this into MapServer WCS if possible, if I am
> missing something with my comments above please let me know.  This is great
> though, is has caused great excitement in our office! 

Are you interested in having GDAL write netCDF files so that 
MapServer can return netCDF files?   As far as I know, there is no
support for creation/writing in the generic netcdf module in GDAL but
it seems like it might not be that hard to implement.  

<snip>

Ideally having MapServer return netCDF would be a nice to have, but as we have discussed before about 3D BBOX + parameters (and this is an aim of OGC GALEON), there is little to differentiate between a geotiff and a netCDF file (or any banded file) when implemented this way (2D + bands for the z-level).  If we could access netCDF through MapServer in an ND sense it would be different, I hope this is something we can work through in GALEON.  It is still possible to make a very workable WCS with 2D + bands though, and I am interested in a way to keep the metadata within the file.

However most of the work (for example when you have 40TB of data as our domain user does!) is in the conversion, so having gdal and hence MapServer read CF netCDF is a major plus (really good!), and makes using MapServer WCS even easier.

This is great though, I am compiling up MapServer with this new GDAL as we speak!

Hats off to Denis and Frank!

Norman




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