[Ica-osgeo-labs] OSGeo-Live in a training setting

Lluís Vicens lluis at sigte.udg.es
Mon Jul 28 09:10:19 PDT 2014


On 19/06/14 23:19, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> Hi Carson,
> Thanks for the question re how OSGeo-Live should be used within a 
> training setting.
> This is a question we have received a few times now, and I'm 
> interested to hear thoughts from others who have used, or wish to use 
> OSGeoLive in an educational setting.
>
> What is are the key use cases we are aiming to address regarding use 
> of OSGeo-Live in an educational setting, and in particular, what needs 
> are required from an educator's perspective?
>
> Is a VM suitable?
> What datasets are required?
> Is a standard OSGeo-Live distribution sufficient, or do trainers need 
> to download and install specific things for their course?

Dear Cameron and others,

I'll try to summarize our use of the OSGeo-Live in our educational 
activities such as the Spanish FOSS4G workshop, summer school on GIS, 
UNIGIS MSc ...

As a global assessment, we must admit that we are pretty happy about  
the overall behaviour of the OSGeo-Live. We have been using it in most 
of the Spanish foss4g workshops[1], covering a broad range of issues and 
themes such as GIS Desktop Workshops (QGIS, gvSIG, GRASS, PostGIS and 
pgRouting, ... even JASPA), Programming workshops (Integration of 
geospatial free technologies, Introduction to python for geospatial 
applications, programming new applications for Sextante, ...), Web 
Applications Workshops (Introduction to MapProxy, Developing Web 
Applications with AngularJS and Leaflet, OpenLayers and GeoServer, ...), 
and other specific workshops such as the integration of OSM data + 
imposm + TileMill, ...

We generally don't need to install extra packages and libraries but, if 
need it, we can do it without arising too many problems. So, in general 
terms, there are no remarkable problems installing new pieces of software.

Sometimes the tricky issue is that the host pc has low RAM memory, so we 
can't assign more than 2Gb, to the virtual machine. But, I suppose that 
this has nothing to do with the OSGeo-Live.

We have intensively used the OSGeo-Live to conduct the whole Summer 
School each July [2], with a pretty good performance. Sometimes, we had 
some troubles with few machines (slow performance, some crashes, etc...) 
but without a clear and concrete reason. Just happens. :)

However, during this edition we encountered a problem with OpenJump and 
PostGIS. Each time we tried to configure a new connection to a PostGIS 
database, OpenJump started to freeze...

Regarding to the datasets, we have been using Natural Earth data and OSM 
data included on the distro, as well as some external datasets. Nothing 
to mention in here. Good performance in every sense.

Last but not least, within the UNIGIS MSc framework, we really encourage 
students to make use of the OSGeo-Live DVD for their assignments and 
practical work. UNIGIS is a online MSc so sometimes, it's a little bit 
difficult to help students to properly install and make use of the 
OSGeo-Live virtual disk. This could take some time but nothing specially 
relevant. The big issue, for those who are not familiar with a new OS, 
is to not enter in a state of panic the first time they see a linux 
environment in front of their eyes... alone :)  In a face-to-face 
courses, this is more easy to handle than in an online course but with a 
little bit of patience and positive attitude, this is not a barrier.

In summary, using OSGeo-Live virtual disk has a double positive result: 
discovering and working with foss4g, as well as discovering a new OS.

Thanks to all the OSGeo-Live crew for their work and passion. Good job!

[1] http://www.sigte.udg.edu/jornadassiglibre
[2] http://www.sigte.udg.edu/summerschool2014/

>
> On 19/06/2014 9:36 am, Carson Farmer wrote:
>> Hi Cameron, we aren't using it (right now), but it *has* been 
>> discussed. Students will have access to their own virtual machine 
>> during the course, so using the OSGeo-Live image is an option. Part 
>> of the course involves installing some of the required apps, so we 
>> weren't sure if we wanted to go with the pre-installed stuff on 
>> OSGeo-Live... having said that, I guess we could work with a modified 
>> version. Any thoughts on this? Additionally, we will be *telling* 
>> students about OSGeo-Live, and they will leave with that as a resource.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Carson
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Cameron Shorter 
>> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Suchith,
>>     Will this course make use of OSGeo-Live? If so I'd be keen to add
>>     the details to our history page:
>>     http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_History
>>
>>     Keeping track of how OSGeo-Live is used provides the motivation
>>     and business justifications people and organisations use to
>>     justify contributing to OSGeo-Live.
>>
>>     I'd also like to hear from any others making use of OSGeo-Live
>>     such that we can add your use to this page.
>>
>>
>>     On 18/06/2014 10:57 pm, Suchith Anand wrote:
>>>
>>>     *From:*carsten.kessler at gmail.com
>>>     <mailto:carsten.kessler at gmail.com>
>>>     [mailto:carsten.kessler at gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Carsten Kessler
>>>     *Sent:* 18 June 2014 13:45
>>>     *To:* ucgis-all
>>>     *Subject:* Free and Open Source GIS course – Aug 4–8 @ Hunter
>>>     College, NYC
>>>
>>>     Dear all,
>>>
>>>     we will be offering a five day professional training course on
>>>     FOSS GIS at Hunter college, NYC, the first week of August:
>>>     http://www.hunter.cuny.edu/ce/gis
>>>
>>>     Feel free to forward the course description below to potential
>>>     participants.
>>>
>>>     Best,
>>>
>>>     Carsten Kessler
>>>
>>>     *FREE AND OPEN SOURCE GIS*
>>>
>>>     *August 4 to August 8, 2014, 9 AM to 5 PM*
>>>
>>>     The Department of Geography at Hunter College of the City
>>>     University of New York and Hunter Continuing Education are
>>>     offering a five day professional course in
>>>     *Free and Open Source GIS*. This five day course will span the
>>>     entire range of GIS data capture, management, analysis, and
>>>     visualization of geographic information
>>>     using Free and Open Source Software (FOSS). These different
>>>     elements of the GIS workflow will be discussed over the first
>>>     four days and will then be applied in a final project completed
>>>     on Friday. The course will combine lectures with hands-on
>>>     sessions where participants will work with
>>>     different free and open source GIS packages. Since we expect
>>>     participants from many different organizations in the tri-state
>>>     area, this training course also presents an excellent networking
>>>     opportunity.
>>>
>>>     The course is designed for experienced GIS users who want to
>>>     broaden their skill set with expertise in the ever-growing world
>>>     of free and open source GIS. Participants are expected to have a
>>>     technical background and an interest in developing comprehensive
>>>     workflows using multiple software components. While we do not
>>>     require any programming experience, we will be working on the
>>>     command line and developing some small scripts. Participants
>>>     should be eager to master these valuable skills.
>>>
>>>
>>>         _Instructors_
>>>         Carson Farmer and Carsten Kessler are Associate Directors of
>>>         the Center for Advanced Research of Spatial Information
>>>         (CARSI Lab) and Assistant Professors for Geographic
>>>         Information Science in the Department of Geography at Hunter
>>>         College ‐ CUNY.
>>>
>>>     Carson <http://carsonfarmer.com/> has been working
>>>     with open source GIS projects, including as core developer for
>>>     QGIS, since 2007. His research interests revolve around
>>>     movements and flows of individuals, information, and commodities
>>>     within urban environments, and the development and
>>>     implementation of novel spatial analysis methods and software
>>>     aimed at characterizing these flows.
>>>
>>>     Carsten <http://carsten.io/> has extensive experience in
>>>     projects around open data and the exchange of geographic
>>>     information, both in international research projects and as a
>>>     consultant. His research interests are in the areas of
>>>     information integration, volunteered geographic information,
>>>     emergency management, and collaborative and participatoryGIS.
>>>
>>>     Both instructors will be present for the duration of the course
>>>     to support the participants in the hands-on exercises.
>>>
>>>
>>>         _Location, registration and fees_
>>>         The course will be held at the Department of Geography's
>>>         computer lab in the Hunter North building at Lexington and
>>>         68th Street, Manhattan. Registration fee for this course is
>>>         $1800 and includes access to computers and server space to
>>>         run the exercises.
>>>
>>>     For more detailed information or to register, visit
>>>     http://www.hunter.cuny.edu/ce/gisor contact the Hunter
>>>     Continuing Education office at 212-650-3850
>>>     <tel:212-650-3850> or ce at hunter.cuny.edu
>>>     <mailto:ce at hunter.cuny.edu> .
>>>
>>>     ---
>>>
>>>     Carsten Kessler – http://carsten.io
>>>
>>>     Center for Advanced Research of Spatial Information
>>>
>>>     Department of Geography
>>>
>>>     Hunter College – CUNY
>>>
>>>     695 Park Avenue
>>>
>>>     New York, NY-10065
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>     -- 
>>     Cameron Shorter,
>>     Software and Data Solutions Manager
>>     LISAsoft
>>     Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
>>     26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
>>
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>>
>> -- 
>> Dr. Carson J. Q. Farmer
>> Associate Director, CARSI <http://www.carsilab.org/>
>> Assistant Professor
>> Department of Geography
>> Hunter College & Graduate Center, CUNY
>> 695 Park Avenue
>> New York, NY, 10065
>> carsonfarmer at gmail.com <mailto:carsonfarmer at gmail.com>
>> @carsonfarmer <https://twitter.com/carsonfarmer>
>> http://carsonfarmer.com
>
> -- 
> Cameron Shorter,
> Software and Data Solutions Manager
> LISAsoft
> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
> 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
>
> P +61 2 9009 5000,  Wwww.lisasoft.com,  F +61 2 9009 5099
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Lluís Vicens

SIGTE - Universitat de Girona
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