[Ica-osgeo-labs] OSGeo-Live in a training setting
Cameron Shorter
cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Tue Jul 29 01:30:06 PDT 2014
Thanks Lluis, your description is very comprehensive, and a valuable,
unbiased summary of OSGeo-Live's strengths and weaknesses in a teaching
environment.
I expect this summary will be something that others will want to
reference in future, and as such, I would like to copy it into a public
location.
I'm thinking that we should either set up a testimony wiki page, or
include testimonies in our existing history page. (I'm currently erring
toward adding this testimony into the history page).
Does this make sense?
On 29/07/2014 2:10 am, Lluís Vicens wrote:
> On 19/06/14 23:19, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>> Hi Carson,
>> Thanks for the question re how OSGeo-Live should be used within a
>> training setting.
>> This is a question we have received a few times now, and I'm
>> interested to hear thoughts from others who have used, or wish to use
>> OSGeoLive in an educational setting.
>>
>> What is are the key use cases we are aiming to address regarding use
>> of OSGeo-Live in an educational setting, and in particular, what
>> needs are required from an educator's perspective?
>>
>> Is a VM suitable?
>> What datasets are required?
>> Is a standard OSGeo-Live distribution sufficient, or do trainers need
>> to download and install specific things for their course?
>
> Dear Cameron and others,
>
> I'll try to summarize our use of the OSGeo-Live in our educational
> activities such as the Spanish FOSS4G workshop, summer school on GIS,
> UNIGIS MSc ...
>
> As a global assessment, we must admit that we are pretty happy about
> the overall behaviour of the OSGeo-Live. We have been using it in most
> of the Spanish foss4g workshops[1], covering a broad range of issues
> and themes such as GIS Desktop Workshops (QGIS, gvSIG, GRASS, PostGIS
> and pgRouting, ... even JASPA), Programming workshops (Integration of
> geospatial free technologies, Introduction to python for geospatial
> applications, programming new applications for Sextante, ...), Web
> Applications Workshops (Introduction to MapProxy, Developing Web
> Applications with AngularJS and Leaflet, OpenLayers and GeoServer,
> ...), and other specific workshops such as the integration of OSM data
> + imposm + TileMill, ...
>
> We generally don't need to install extra packages and libraries but,
> if need it, we can do it without arising too many problems. So, in
> general terms, there are no remarkable problems installing new pieces
> of software.
>
> Sometimes the tricky issue is that the host pc has low RAM memory, so
> we can't assign more than 2Gb, to the virtual machine. But, I suppose
> that this has nothing to do with the OSGeo-Live.
>
> We have intensively used the OSGeo-Live to conduct the whole Summer
> School each July [2], with a pretty good performance. Sometimes, we
> had some troubles with few machines (slow performance, some crashes,
> etc...) but without a clear and concrete reason. Just happens. :)
>
> However, during this edition we encountered a problem with OpenJump
> and PostGIS. Each time we tried to configure a new connection to a
> PostGIS database, OpenJump started to freeze...
>
> Regarding to the datasets, we have been using Natural Earth data and
> OSM data included on the distro, as well as some external datasets.
> Nothing to mention in here. Good performance in every sense.
>
> Last but not least, within the UNIGIS MSc framework, we really
> encourage students to make use of the OSGeo-Live DVD for their
> assignments and practical work. UNIGIS is a online MSc so sometimes,
> it's a little bit difficult to help students to properly install and
> make use of the OSGeo-Live virtual disk. This could take some time but
> nothing specially relevant. The big issue, for those who are not
> familiar with a new OS, is to not enter in a state of panic the first
> time they see a linux environment in front of their eyes... alone :)
> In a face-to-face courses, this is more easy to handle than in an
> online course but with a little bit of patience and positive attitude,
> this is not a barrier.
>
> In summary, using OSGeo-Live virtual disk has a double positive
> result: discovering and working with foss4g, as well as discovering a
> new OS.
>
> Thanks to all the OSGeo-Live crew for their work and passion. Good job!
>
> [1] http://www.sigte.udg.edu/jornadassiglibre
> [2] http://www.sigte.udg.edu/summerschool2014/
>
>>
>> On 19/06/2014 9:36 am, Carson Farmer wrote:
>>> Hi Cameron, we aren't using it (right now), but it *has* been
>>> discussed. Students will have access to their own virtual machine
>>> during the course, so using the OSGeo-Live image is an option. Part
>>> of the course involves installing some of the required apps, so we
>>> weren't sure if we wanted to go with the pre-installed stuff on
>>> OSGeo-Live... having said that, I guess we could work with a
>>> modified version. Any thoughts on this? Additionally, we will be
>>> *telling* students about OSGeo-Live, and they will leave with that
>>> as a resource.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Carson
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Cameron Shorter
>>> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Suchith,
>>> Will this course make use of OSGeo-Live? If so I'd be keen to
>>> add the details to our history page:
>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_History
>>>
>>> Keeping track of how OSGeo-Live is used provides the motivation
>>> and business justifications people and organisations use to
>>> justify contributing to OSGeo-Live.
>>>
>>> I'd also like to hear from any others making use of OSGeo-Live
>>> such that we can add your use to this page.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 18/06/2014 10:57 pm, Suchith Anand wrote:
>>>>
>>>> *From:*carsten.kessler at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:carsten.kessler at gmail.com>
>>>> [mailto:carsten.kessler at gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Carsten Kessler
>>>> *Sent:* 18 June 2014 13:45
>>>> *To:* ucgis-all
>>>> *Subject:* Free and Open Source GIS course – Aug 4–8 @ Hunter
>>>> College, NYC
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> we will be offering a five day professional training course on
>>>> FOSS GIS at Hunter college, NYC, the first week of August:
>>>> http://www.hunter.cuny.edu/ce/gis
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to forward the course description below to potential
>>>> participants.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Carsten Kessler
>>>>
>>>> *FREE AND OPEN SOURCE GIS*
>>>>
>>>> *August 4 to August 8, 2014, 9 AM to 5 PM*
>>>>
>>>> The Department of Geography at Hunter College of the City
>>>> University of New York and Hunter Continuing Education are
>>>> offering a five day professional course in
>>>> *Free and Open Source GIS*. This five day course will span the
>>>> entire range of GIS data capture, management, analysis, and
>>>> visualization of geographic information
>>>> using Free and Open Source Software (FOSS). These different
>>>> elements of the GIS workflow will be discussed over the first
>>>> four days and will then be applied in a final project completed
>>>> on Friday. The course will combine lectures with hands-on
>>>> sessions where participants will work with
>>>> different free and open source GIS packages. Since we expect
>>>> participants from many different organizations in the tri-state
>>>> area, this training course also presents an excellent
>>>> networking opportunity.
>>>>
>>>> The course is designed for experienced GIS users who want to
>>>> broaden their skill set with expertise in the ever-growing
>>>> world of free and open source GIS. Participants are expected to
>>>> have a technical background and an interest in developing
>>>> comprehensive workflows using multiple software components.
>>>> While we do not require any programming experience, we will be
>>>> working on the command line and developing some small scripts.
>>>> Participants should be eager to master these valuable skills.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _Instructors_
>>>> Carson Farmer and Carsten Kessler are Associate Directors
>>>> of the Center for Advanced Research of Spatial Information
>>>> (CARSI Lab) and Assistant Professors for Geographic
>>>> Information Science in the Department of Geography at
>>>> Hunter College ‐ CUNY.
>>>>
>>>> Carson <http://carsonfarmer.com/> has been working
>>>> with open source GIS projects, including as core developer for
>>>> QGIS, since 2007. His research interests revolve around
>>>> movements and flows of individuals, information, and
>>>> commodities within urban environments, and the development and
>>>> implementation of novel spatial analysis methods and software
>>>> aimed at characterizing these flows.
>>>>
>>>> Carsten <http://carsten.io/> has extensive experience in
>>>> projects around open data and the exchange of geographic
>>>> information, both in international research projects and as a
>>>> consultant. His research interests are in the areas of
>>>> information integration, volunteered geographic information,
>>>> emergency management, and collaborative and participatoryGIS.
>>>>
>>>> Both instructors will be present for the duration of the course
>>>> to support the participants in the hands-on exercises.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _Location, registration and fees_
>>>> The course will be held at the Department of Geography's
>>>> computer lab in the Hunter North building at Lexington and
>>>> 68th Street, Manhattan. Registration fee for this course is
>>>> $1800 and includes access to computers and server space to
>>>> run the exercises.
>>>>
>>>> For more detailed information or to register, visit
>>>> http://www.hunter.cuny.edu/ce/gisor contact the Hunter
>>>> Continuing Education office at 212-650-3850
>>>> <tel:212-650-3850> or ce at hunter.cuny.edu
>>>> <mailto:ce at hunter.cuny.edu> .
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> Carsten Kessler – http://carsten.io
>>>>
>>>> Center for Advanced Research of Spatial Information
>>>>
>>>> Department of Geography
>>>>
>>>> Hunter College – CUNY
>>>>
>>>> 695 Park Avenue
>>>>
>>>> New York, NY-10065
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> Cameron Shorter,
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>>> --
>>> Dr. Carson J. Q. Farmer
>>> Associate Director, CARSI <http://www.carsilab.org/>
>>> Assistant Professor
>>> Department of Geography
>>> Hunter College & Graduate Center, CUNY
>>> 695 Park Avenue
>>> New York, NY, 10065
>>> carsonfarmer at gmail.com <mailto:carsonfarmer at gmail.com>
>>> @carsonfarmer <https://twitter.com/carsonfarmer>
>>> http://carsonfarmer.com
>>
>> --
>> Cameron Shorter,
>> Software and Data Solutions Manager
>> LISAsoft
>> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
>> 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
>>
>> P +61 2 9009 5000, Wwww.lisasoft.com, F +61 2 9009 5099
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> Lluís Vicens
>
> SIGTE - Universitat de Girona
> Pl. Ferrater Mora, 1
> 17071 Girona
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Cameron Shorter,
Software and Data Solutions Manager
LISAsoft
Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
P +61 2 9009 5000, W www.lisasoft.com, F +61 2 9009 5099
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