[Geo4All] UN SDG mapping book updates

Suchith Anand Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
Sun Jun 4 00:41:41 PDT 2017


Thank you Silvana for sharing the updates (even if it is in draft). Greatly appreciated.

Menno-Jan , I will not be able to attend ICC 2017 in Washington , so I won’t be able to be there for the book meeting. I request you to kindly consider open discussions as it will help to get inputs from all different perspectives to help develop a collaborative decision making process. I humbly request you to please share the final decision and the reasons  from the book meeting  next month to the GeoforAll community. I have great respect for you on your work as an excellent researcher and educator in GI Science over the years . I look forward to work with you for Cartography education and opportunities for ALL.

Best wishes,

Suchith


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From: Silvana Camboim <silvanacamboim at gmail.com>
Sent: 02 June 2017 3:42 PM
To: Anand Suchith
Cc: Kraak Menno-Jan; Anthony Robinson; geoforall at lists.osgeo.org; sg at icaci.org
Subject: Re: [Geo4All] UN SDG mapping book updates

Dear all:

As the current chair of ICA Commission on Open Source Geotechnologies I thinks can help to make some points clearer about this book.

Each commission was responsible for one goal. Ours (Open Source Geotechnologies) was mapping inequality. The content was created in collaboration with all Geo4All network (Geo4All Cartographic Challenge). It was committed with our open principles: as it detailed the activities of 4 labs around the world. As this will be published by ESRI Press, and the format will be discussed during ICC in Washington, but until now there is no influence of the software vendor in the content of the book. The original posters are available openly since the UN exhibition last year.

The concern that the ESRI as editor Will have some influence about the content is legitimate, but you can be sure that I will careful during the process to guarantee that our contributions will mirror the open source principles.

The discussion about open publishing is welcome, but we know that we are still not in the point that this is

One idea is maybe to create an Open Tutorial or webinar series on UN SDG goals, maybe with the UN working group? That will complement the ICA iniative and could be a great chance to further disseminate the potential of Open Source and Open Education.

Em 2 de jun de 2017 10:26, "Suchith Anand" <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>> escreveu:
Dear Anthony,

Free and Open discussions are the way we work and we greatly welcome different ideas and perspectives. We value everyone's inputs and everyone are welcome to join and provide inputs. We won't be able to even have this open discussion in the properitery GIS vendor mail lists. You won't be able to even send an email on GeoForAll to the properitery GIS vendor's education maillist! You are always welcome to share your ideas to geoforall community, GeoforAll advisory board, OSGeo Board and we will be happy to discuss ideas.

To be clear my specific query was on this particular issue where the voluntary contributions of  all commissions (including commission on open source  geospatial technologies that I am a member) for the UN SDG “Mapping” Goals are to be published as a book  . Having it sponsored and published by a properitery GIS vendor will mean they will have their own agenda promoted as the Mapping agenda for UN SDG.  We have so many examples already where properitery GIS vendors have used sponsorship as backdoor to have their agenda pushed. It is important we learn from experiences . We are a education and scientific community and it is important we work with all and listen to all perspectives but as this book is specifically  related to UN SDG it should not be used for any sponsorship activities from any vendors or pushing any specific vendor agendas.

This book is done by volunteer efforts of members and should be published as an open book through the ICA website in creative commons licence. So I really don’t understand why this important collaborative work on UN SDG  needs to be published specifically through properitery GIS vendor publishing house  who will have conflict of interest to open solutions and open principles.  Open solutions and principles are also key part of  achieving UN SDG 2030.

Best wishes,

Suchith



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From: Helena Mitasova <hmitaso at ncsu.edu<mailto:hmitaso at ncsu.edu>>
Sent: 02 June 2017 11:14 AM
To: Anthony Robinson
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Subject: Re: [Geo4All] UN SDG mapping book updates

Finally, I'll add that I think it is quite problematic that there appears to
be no collaborative decision making process by which GeoForAll speaks out on
issues like this one. If I'm wrong about that I'd be happy to be corrected.

Anthony - this is just to clarify:
we do have a collaborative decision making process  to speak out -
the issues can be presented to geoforall advisory board for discussion and potential geoforall official statement or if it is a broader issue OSGeo board can take it up as well. But anybody can initiate an open discussion and I think that is what Suchith is doing - sharing his ideas and thoughts on his issue.

Regards,

-Anthony

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Subject: [Geo4All] UN SDG mapping book updates

Dear  colleagues,

As you are aware there is some excellent work done by our ICA colleagues by
highlighting the value of cartography by “mapping” the UN sustainable
development goals. Silvana and our colleagues have done excellent work
highlighting the importance of openness in reducing inequalities.

I believe this is a very important activity  but recently  I came to know
that the book  proposal that is planned  to be developed from this is being
planned to be published through a properitery GIS vendor ‘s publishing
house. Hence I have written to Menno-Jan requesting him to consider
publication on this important issue through  any neutral academic publishing
houses as publishing this through properitery GIS vendor ‘s publishing
company is against the spirit of openness in geo education and ICA-OSGeo MoU
.  I think it is important to have both properitery and open solutions but
ICA as an organisation should be neutral . Hence very important not to
promote Properitery vendor agenda esp in UN SDG work by having the
properitery GIS vendor publishing this. As an ordinary ICA volunteer  I am
disappointed to see this.  I am grateful that Menno-Jan has understood my
concern and I hope this will be rectified asap.

I will keep you updated on the developments.

Best wishes,

Suchith







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