[Geo4All] [OSGeo-Discuss] osgeo board request world wind consider joining the foundation

Tue Jun 12 12:03:58 PDT 2018

Dear Patrick,

for as much as I like and respect the Worldwind project, I would not favour skipping the incubation process. Incubation is the most important contribution of OSGeo to the community. It is the process that guarantees the quality and longevity of the projects sanctioned by the foundation.

I urge those involved in Worldwind to formally enter the project into the incubator. That would start a formal partnership with OSGeo, with an OSGeo mentor assigned to Worldwind. The process itself will strengthen the project and guarantee its excellence.

Best regards.

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On June 12, 2018 7:06 PM, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <patrick.hogan at nasa.gov> wrote:

> [Luis,]
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> Dearly appreciate your concern and support!
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> If WorldWind is not sufficient to be part of the OSGeo family as is,
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> maybe being grand-mothered in, given its age,
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> a good five years older than OSGeo,
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> then I guess we’ll just have to carry on without.
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> We simply have not the time to navigate the obstacle course,
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> despite being as Open Source Geospatial as it gets,
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> both in principle and in action, for quite some time.
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> I have always considered ESA-NASA WorldWind as part of OSGeo by default.
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> Now my tenure is about up, so into the sunset I go, wishing more for the world.
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> -phogan99 at yahoo.com
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> From: Luís Moreira de Sousa [mailto:luis.de.sousa at protonmail.ch]
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 8:46 AM
> To: Suchith Anand
> Cc: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); OSGeo-incubator; ML osgeo discuss; geoforall at lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: Re: [Geo4All] [OSGeo-Discuss] osgeo board request world wind consider joining the foundation
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> Dear Patrick,
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> I am a member of the PyWPS PSC, a project that graduated just recently. PyWPS was in active incubation for 3 years; it was indeed a long process, but along the way it was generally clear what we were missing to reach the finish line.
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> I would suggest the Worldwind PSC to share the project incubation check list and publicly seek help to complete the most difficult items.
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> Best wishes for Worldwind. Regards.
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> --
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> Luís Moreira de Sousa
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> Bowlespark 8
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> 6701 DN Wageningen
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> The Netherlands
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> Phone: +31 628 544 755
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> Email: luis.de.sousa at protonmail.ch
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> RingID: ring:7ca91d83f4f9dec82fec9f1144b8e5c1ef2a110c
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> URL: https://ldesousa.github.io
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> On June 11, 2018 1:58 AM, Suchith Anand <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
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>> Hi Patrick,
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>> Thanks for your email and your contributions to OSGeo Principles over the years . Though I do not have background knowledge of the incubation  discussions that you went through in OSGeo , I do hope that Worldwind becomes part of the OSGeo family in the near future. We will keep trying.
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>> GeoForAll have always welcomed Worldwind and other  like minded initiatives  as part of our outreach efforts in education  and we are hoping that this will lead in the future for building more  synergies . The Europa challenge has been a great boost for GeoForAll education efforts and we are grateful for your tireless work over the years for making this possible.
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>> I want to wish you the very best for the next chapter of your life. Great idea to go back to school teaching after your retirement. That will also help the GeoForAll School Education efforts ... Thanks again for your contributions to Open Principles in education.
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>> Best wishes,
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>> Suchith
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>> From: Discuss <discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <patrick.hogan at nasa.gov>
>> Sent: 09 June 2018 23:31
>> To: Jody Garnett; OSGeo-incubator
>> Cc: ML osgeo discuss; geoforall at lists.osgeo.org
>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] osgeo board request world wind consider joining the foundation
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>> [Jody, Howdy!]
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>> Despite every attempt to support OSGeo and the principles therein, WorldWind seems to always be met with something missing. I am not WorldWind. WorldWind is an open source platform that has been dedicated to delivering geospatial data for 15 years now.
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>> I’m sure WorldWind would like to be embraced by OSGeo, but somehow it seems WorldWind has never learned the special handshake. I am old now and retiring soon, so others will need to take the lead, if there is one to take. I have repeatedly expressed the desire for WorldWind to be, as you put it, “a part of the OSGeo family.”
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>> As an ESA-NASA open source project, in full support of OSGeo principles, I do not understand why WorldWind is not “part of the OSGeo family.” I hope OSGeo will choose to ^adopt^ ESA-NASA WorldWind someday as part of their family, someday.
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>> For my part, I plan to return to my former career, some 30-plus years ago, as a High School science teacher. Now I am looking forward to work with Kindergarten kids, pretty much the ‘unhinged’ ^wild bunch^ with whom I feel closest too.
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>> May OSGeo be the ‘big tent’ it can be for the world of Open Source Geospatial software.
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>> -Patrick
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>> From: Jody Garnett [mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 10:05 AM
>> To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); OSGeo-incubator
>> Subject: osgeo board request world wind consider joining the foundation
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>> Morning Patrick (and incubation list).
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>> The most recent board meeting has a request for the incubation committee to ask you about World Wind joining OSGeo. See [Discuss and approve OSGeo as partner for UN World Challenge 2018](https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2018-06-06#Discuss_and_approve_OSGeo_as_partner_for_UN_World_Challenge_2018).
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>> As I understand it the GeoForAll is wanting to take part due to the educational outreach nature of the challenge, but feels awkward since the project is not part of the OSGeo family. The way I figure it is that GeoForAll, just like the foundation, has a goal of supporting the adoption of all open source spatial projects. And should be held back by what projects have decide to join our foundation.
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>> By the same token our website lists all open source mapping projects, including [ESA-NASA World Wind](https://www.osgeo.org/projects/esa-nasa-worldwind/). That page is really sparse and does not tell the public very much about the project, perhaps that is something to work on? Indeed if you fill in some more information it will show up in choose-a-project when visitors are seeking new software.
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>> With respect to World Wind joining the foundation as a community project the invitation is made to all open source mapping projects, we are here if you have time to take part in our family. Until then we are happy to support world wind in a more limited capacity (Website,GeoForAll).
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>> All the best and happy mapping
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>> --
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>> Jody Garnett
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