[Geo4All] Proposed OSGeo stack beginner workshop, based on OSGeo-Live, presented at FOSS4G

[S Kolo]

Bob,

Good point ! I don’t think it’s out the the realms of possibility. A
project approach has some advantages, especially if there are some generic
principals that can be used in various components. Graphically thinking -
perhaps something like a decision tree with parallel branches representing
the alternatives (as a start). Effectively the “custom” approach of cherry
picking from parts of the stack is what we’ve been doing for years. Of
course I am more au fait with particular components (we all have our
favourites) but I have no problem slotting in other options.
I think we need to be a bit cautious however on how we approach and present
it as a whole. The sheer number of potential combinations and permutations
to arrive at a solution does make presenting it a bit more
daunting/intricate/complicated and potentially confusing for the newer
users. At the end of the day focusing on smaller digestible chunks and
allowing users to go away with a feeling that they’ve actually learnt
something they can apply is what I really want to endeavour to achieve.
In FOSS4G (and OSS in general) the problem isn’t whether something exists
to deliver it (because we know something probably does), it’s about when,
how and why do we make the decision to go for which bits of the OSS stack.
What are the requirements, pitfalls, investments, returns etc Given the
investment/return of some components (eg running a Spatial database) what
is the tipping point when you actually should consider investing in them?
The sorts of questions vary depending on the client - individuals, small
business, researchers, state/local/fed Govt, as does the motivation.

I’m not sure where this will lead, but I’m keen to hear what people think
about what has been perhaps missing or not covered very well in terms of
the tools and the whole stack in general ?

Cheers,
Shaun

On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 at 12:02 am, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) <
bob.basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us> wrote:

> All,
>
> I’ve been pondering how to do something similar to this but at a project
> level, and/or maybe as a custom stack.  The target would be in how to apply
> the software to work processes.  Is there some method that could be used
> here that would facilitate both the OSGeo-Live path as well as a custom
> stack path?
>
> bobb
>
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2018, at 8:05 PM, Charlie Schweik <cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>
> wrote:
>
> Carmeron, Shawn:
>
> Nice idea. In case this is of use, perhaps you could do these in a set of
> modules (e.g., 1 hour sessions) which could be done over our GeoForAll
> webinar series. They could be recorded and then placed on the cloud for
> others to watch later.
>
> Just an idea...
>
> Cheers
> Charlie
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 8:10 PM Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Shaun Kolomeitz and myself were recently discussing the value that could
>> be gained by setting up a "beginners OSGeo full stack" workshop, which
>> served multiple needs and communities.
>>
>> It would aim to help new users answer "when, what and how should I use
>> Open Source GIS".
>>
>> Initially we would target a workshop at FOSS4G-Oceania [1] (in Melbourne
>> Australia in November 2018)
>>
>> The aim would be to build upon OSGeo-Live [2], with the intent that the
>> training material would eventually become distributed with OSGeo-Live.
>> This brings the advantage that the training course would be continually
>> be getting updated with every software distribution, and setup glitches
>> would be significantly reduced because everything would be pre-installed
>> with OSGeo-Live.
>>
>> Ideally, we would be this course to be run on the cloud. Again, the
>> advantage here is that we would be taking OSGeo-Live (along with OSGeo
>> applications) into a cloud environment.
>>
>> In future versions, we would aim to team up with geo4all, universities
>> and educators, such that we can integrate OSGeo-Live and courses, and
>> help cross collaboration and maintenance between projects, programmers
>> and educators.
>>
>> The first thing we want to do is work out if anyone is doing something
>> similar, or have material we can make use of, or have good ideas that we
>> should incorporate, or who would like to join us.
>>
>> Introducing Shaun:
>>
>> For those who don't know Shaun, he is someone I've known for years. He
>> has decades of experience with GIS, is an advocate Open Source GIS, and
>> is someone who has a track record of getting things done.
>>
>> [1] http://foss4g-oceania.org/
>>
>> [2] http://live.osgeo.org
>>
>> --
>> Cameron Shorter
>> Technology Demystifier
>> Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant
>>
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>> University of Massachusetts, Amherst
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