[Geo4All] Proposed OSGeo stack beginner workshop, based on OSGeo-Live, presented at FOSS4G
Cameron Shorter
cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Tue Jun 26 15:57:18 PDT 2018
Good suggestions.
I think there are some logical sections with well defined interfaces
within the workshop, and you can switch components in/out at these
points, or chunk into workshops.
I'd say it could break into:
* Data: Source and prepare data. Ideally just use preloaded sample
dataset. (Note, changing example datasets will likely lead to many
changes to the syntax of example commands)
* Datastore: Load data into a data store (such as a database)
* Web Service: connect webservice to a datastore, and configure the data
service (such as a WMS/WFS)
* Client: Access data from the client and do something useful. There can
be a Desktop version and browser version of this.
On 27/6/18 8:31 am, S Kolo wrote:
> Bob,
>
> Good point ! I don’t think it’s out the the realms of possibility. A
> project approach has some advantages, especially if there are some
> generic principals that can be used in various components. Graphically
> thinking - perhaps something like a decision tree with parallel
> branches representing the alternatives (as a start). Effectively the
> “custom” approach of cherry picking from parts of the stack is what
> we’ve been doing for years. Of course I am more au fait with
> particular components (we all have our favourites) but I have no
> problem slotting in other options.
> I think we need to be a bit cautious however on how we approach and
> present it as a whole. The sheer number of potential combinations and
> permutations to arrive at a solution does make presenting it a bit
> more daunting/intricate/complicated and potentially confusing for the
> newer users. At the end of the day focusing on smaller digestible
> chunks and allowing users to go away with a feeling that they’ve
> actually learnt something they can apply is what I really want to
> endeavour to achieve.
> In FOSS4G (and OSS in general) the problem isn’t whether something
> exists to deliver it (because we know something probably does), it’s
> about when, how and why do we make the decision to go for which bits
> of the OSS stack. What are the requirements, pitfalls, investments,
> returns etc Given the investment/return of some components (eg running
> a Spatial database) what is the tipping point when you actually should
> consider investing in them? The sorts of questions vary depending on
> the client - individuals, small business, researchers, state/local/fed
> Govt, as does the motivation.
>
> I’m not sure where this will lead, but I’m keen to hear what people
> think about what has been perhaps missing or not covered very well in
> terms of the tools and the whole stack in general ?
>
> Cheers,
> Shaun
>
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 at 12:02 am, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)
> <bob.basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us <mailto:bob.basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us>> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I’ve been pondering how to do something similar to this but at a
> project level, and/or maybe as a custom stack. The target would
> be in how to apply the software to work processes. Is there some
> method that could be used here that would facilitate both the
> OSGeo-Live path as well as a custom stack path?
>
> bobb
>
>
>
>> On Jun 25, 2018, at 8:05 PM, Charlie Schweik
>> <cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu <mailto:cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> Carmeron, Shawn:
>>
>> Nice idea. In case this is of use, perhaps you could do these in
>> a set of modules (e.g., 1 hour sessions) which could be done over
>> our GeoForAll webinar series. They could be recorded and then
>> placed on the cloud for others to watch later.
>>
>> Just an idea...
>>
>> Cheers
>> Charlie
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 8:10 PM Cameron Shorter
>> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Shaun Kolomeitz and myself were recently discussing the value
>> that could
>> be gained by setting up a "beginners OSGeo full stack"
>> workshop, which
>> served multiple needs and communities.
>>
>> It would aim to help new users answer "when, what and how
>> should I use
>> Open Source GIS".
>>
>> Initially we would target a workshop at FOSS4G-Oceania [1]
>> (in Melbourne
>> Australia in November 2018)
>>
>> The aim would be to build upon OSGeo-Live [2], with the
>> intent that the
>> training material would eventually become distributed with
>> OSGeo-Live.
>> This brings the advantage that the training course would be
>> continually
>> be getting updated with every software distribution, and
>> setup glitches
>> would be significantly reduced because everything would be
>> pre-installed
>> with OSGeo-Live.
>>
>> Ideally, we would be this course to be run on the cloud.
>> Again, the
>> advantage here is that we would be taking OSGeo-Live (along
>> with OSGeo
>> applications) into a cloud environment.
>>
>> In future versions, we would aim to team up with geo4all,
>> universities
>> and educators, such that we can integrate OSGeo-Live and
>> courses, and
>> help cross collaboration and maintenance between projects,
>> programmers
>> and educators.
>>
>> The first thing we want to do is work out if anyone is doing
>> something
>> similar, or have material we can make use of, or have good
>> ideas that we
>> should incorporate, or who would like to join us.
>>
>> Introducing Shaun:
>>
>> For those who don't know Shaun, he is someone I've known for
>> years. He
>> has decades of experience with GIS, is an advocate Open
>> Source GIS, and
>> is someone who has a track record of getting things done.
>>
>> [1] http://foss4g-oceania.org/ <http://foss4g-oceania.org/>
>>
>> [2] http://live.osgeo.org <http://live.osgeo.org/>
>>
>> --
>> Cameron Shorter
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>> Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant
>>
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>>
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>> Policy
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>>
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>
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