[geomoose-psc] Decouple services from JS, decouple JS and services from data source/provider, various language services

Eli Adam eadam at co.lincoln.or.us
Fri Apr 12 09:31:34 PDT 2013 

Trying to start a new thread here with an appropriate subject, and
even at that, this could be several threads or a longer in-person or
IRC meeting.

Eli

On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:28 AM, James Klassen <klassen.js at gmail.com> wrote:
> We want to keep the default/example services to one language.  We had
> multiple languages before and they all got out of sync with each other... It
> was just to much to maintain.
>
> You cab write your own stuff in whatever language you want.  There are even
> some usable LISP web frameworks.  But I expect the project sticking with
> something that is currently more mainstream.
>
> On Apr 12, 2013 11:19 AM, "Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)"
> <bob.basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us> wrote:
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>> And PERL!!
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>> Bobb
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>> From: Brian Fischer [mailto:bfischer at houstoneng.com]
>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 11:18 AM
>> To: James Klassen; Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)
>> Cc: geomoose-psc at lists.osgeo.org
>> Subject: RE: [geomoose-psc] Trac notifications?
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>> Sounds like we need some funding to try to port the PHP services to Python
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>> Brian Fischer, CFM
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>> Principal | GIS Project Manager
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>> Houston Engineering, Inc.
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>> O 763.493.4522 | D 763.493.6664 | M 763.229.2734
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>> From: geomoose-psc-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>> [mailto:geomoose-psc-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of James Klassen
>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 11:11 AM
>> To: Bob Basques
>> Cc: geomoose-psc at lists.osgeo.org
>> Subject: Re: [geomoose-psc] Trac notifications?
>>
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>> The big problem with more than one GeoMoose version at a time is mod_php
>> isn't very flexible.
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>> GeoMoose JavaScript has no problem with multiple versions.
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>> The problem is the PHP code is coupled to the JS version and is also
>> coupled to the MapServer version.  We tend to target the latest MapServer
>> available in MS4W to make life easy for our windows running users.
>>
>> So we end up needing multiple MapServer versions to run multiple GeoMoose
>> versions  (which is easy enough for Perl/python/ruby MapScript and also easy
>> enough if we would decouple the (PHP) services from the JS code similar to
>> how things originally worked at the city) but with PHP where everything
>> essentially gets linked into Apache at runtime it makes life very difficult.
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2013 11:01 AM, "Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)"
>> <bob.basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us> wrote:
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>> All,
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>> I have an interest in working on the "Demo" side of things, but I would
>> prefer to work in a separate container of sorts, maybe more of a sandbox
>> environment to be able to try different things, and to also possibly leave
>> them in place between versions, at least for a couple of versions out.  I
>> really like the sandbox approach used by OpenLayers for demos of particular
>> capabilities.  Using this sort of model, it might be nice to see demos from
>> more than one organization for different types of things over the long run.
>>
>> The current demo looks to be tightly integrated with the GeoMoose website
>> on the whole, and based on the distribution methods that are needed, this is
>> probably a good thing.
>>
>> So the question is, is there room for an extended set of demos, possibly
>> housed somewhere besides the GeoMoose web site and tied in as a linked
>> resource? This may be something that has some slight dependency on the
>> future abstraction of some of the GeoMoose tools as well, at least in order
>> for the idea to take off quicker.
>>
>> bobb
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>> >>  -----Original Message-----
>> >>  From: geomoose-psc-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:geomoose-psc-
>> >>  bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Eli Adam
>> >>  Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 10:48 AM
>> >>  To: James Klassen
>> >>  Cc: geomoose-psc at lists.osgeo.org
>> >>  Subject: Re: [geomoose-psc] Trac notifications?
>> >>
>> >>  Our docs partially suggest to confirm the bug on the list,
>> >>  http://geomoose.org/trunk/docs/faq.html?highlight=faq#how-should-
>> >>  i-report-a-bug
>> >>  and
>> >>  http://geomoose.org/trunk/howto/testing_reporting_ticketing.html#
>> >>  testing-reporting-ticketing
>> >>
>> >>  I like the idea of confirming bugs in advance but think that in
>> >>  practice we will have to in some way deal with bugs that don't
>> >>  first go through the list.
>> >>
>> >>  I've taken default ownership of the 'Docs' and 'Website'
>> >>  components, is anyone interested in any of these components and
>> >>  following up on list or ticket?
>> >>      BuildTools
>> >>      Demo
>> >>      GeoMOOSE/JS
>> >>      GeoMOOSE/PHP
>> >>      Infrastructure
>> >>      UserExtensions
>> >>
>> >>  Eli
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:53 PM, James Klassen
>> >>  <klassen.js at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>  > Generally, the owner of the ticket will get a notification.
>> >>  The
>> >>  > default owner is set at the component level.
>> >>  >
>> >>  >
>> >>  > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Brian Fischer
>> >>  > <bfischer at houstoneng.com>
>> >>  > wrote:
>> >>  >>
>> >>  >> I don't get any notification.
>> >>  >>
>> >>  >> I kind of like Jim's point that it would be nice to be
>> >>  discussed on
>> >>  >> the list first, but also see the point it would be nice to be
>> >>  >> notified if someone does enter a ticket so we can follow up
>> >>  >> immediately for clarification if the ticket is not clear and
>> >>  saves
>> >>  >> time later trying to sort that out.
>> >>  >>
>> >>  >> Brian Fischer, CFM
>> >>  >> Principal | GIS Project Manager
>> >>  >> Houston Engineering, Inc.
>> >>  >> O 763.493.4522 | D 763.493.6664 | M 763.229.2734
>> >>  >>
>> >>  >> -----Original Message-----
>> >>  >> From: geomoose-psc-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>> >>  >> [mailto:geomoose-psc-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Eli
>> >>  Adam
>> >>  >> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 5:29 PM
>> >>  >> To: geomoose-psc at lists.osgeo.org
>> >>  >> Subject: [geomoose-psc] Trac notifications?
>> >>  >>
>> >>  >> Does anyone get Trac notifications when new tickets are
>> >>  opened?  The
>> >>  >> reason I ask is that if people enter tickets and don't get any
>> >>  >> response at all, it can be discouraging.
>> >>  >>
>> >>  >> I'm the default owner for Docs and website components so I get
>> >>  those
>> >>  >> notices.
>> >>  >>
>> >>  >> We could make this list the default owner, I also use
>> >>  >> http://trac.osgeo.org/geomoose/report/9 as a tab on my
>> >>  homepage to do
>> >>  >> it the manual way.  Other ideas?
>> >>  >>
>> >>  >> Eli
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