[Geomoose-users] getting started, running the demos question
John Callahan
john.callahan at udel.edu
Mon Jan 4 13:19:55 EST 2010
I wonder which version of PHP MS4W uses, http://windows.php.net/download/?
The VC9 versions require the VC++ 2008 package and seem to be improved from
the VC6 versions. That page also states to NOT use the VC9 versions with
apache.org binaries but use VC6 versions instead. Maybe MS4W compiles
everything themselves to ensure compatibility?
Just a note, not sure it matters, but I am a Windows user and never been
able to use the MS4W package. I think MS4W is great but my servers usually
already have Apache and PHP. I use MS4W to just get the MapServer/GDAL
binaries. It's common from my experience for people to add web mapping
apps/components (MapServer, GeoMoose, Google Maps, ArcIMS, etc...) to
servers and sites that already exist in production. These servers/sites
usually serve a number of other apps and cannot use the MS4W as is.
So, for me, I need to find out exactly where I got my apache/php binaries
from (on the server that will actualy house the GeoMoose app) and make sure
mapserver/mapscript/geomoose components are compatible.
- John
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Brent Fraser <bfraser at geoanalytic.com>wrote:
> I just installed MS4W on a clean XP virtual machine. Apache would not
> start; I had to install the VC++ 2008 redist package (
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=9B2DA534-3E03-4391-8A4D-074B9F2BC1BF&displaylang=en
> )
>
> Then it started and PHP reported:
>
> MapScript
> MapServer Version MapServer version 5.4.2 OUTPUT=GIF OUTPUT=PNG
> OUTPUT=JPEG OUTPUT=WBMP OUTPUT=PDF OUTPUT=SWF OUTPUT=SVG SUPPORTS=PROJ
> SUPPORTS=AGG SUPPORTS=FREETYPE SUPPORTS=ICONV SUPPORTS=FRIBIDI
> SUPPORTS=WMS_SERVER SUPPORTS=WMS_CLIENT SUPPORTS=WFS_SERVER
> SUPPORTS=WFS_CLIENT SUPPORTS=WCS_SERVER SUPPORTS=SOS_SERVER SUPPORTS=FASTCGI
> SUPPORTS=THREADS SUPPORTS=GEOS SUPPORTS=RGBA_PNG INPUT=JPEG INPUT=POSTGIS
> INPUT=OGR INPUT=GDAL INPUT=SHAPEFILE
>
> PHP MapScript Version ($Revision: 9099 $ $Date: 2009-06-09 00:39:18 -0300
> (Tue, 09 Jun 2009) $)
>
> so I'm encouraged. I'll try GM next...
>
> Brent
>
>
>
>
> Brian Fischer wrote:
>
>> I really haven’t tested MS4W 3.0 beta 7 with GM yet. I tried when it was
>> in beta 2 and ran into some of these same problems.
>>
>>
>> I would suggest if there are specific things we need added to MS4W to make
>> things work with GM 2.2 we submit a bug. Kind of like the Mapbender project
>> did in this bug http://bugzilla.maptools.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2086. Then
>> if it is not to hard for them to add they will do it.
>>
>>
>> Is the dbase .dll the only thing? I think when GM 2.2 comes out we need
>> to explain the quirks of the dl() function.
>>
>>
>> *Brian Fischer,* CFM GIS Project Manager
>> *Houston Engineering, Inc.*
>> Phone: W: 763.493.4522 / M: 763.229.2734
>>
>>
>> *From:* Dan Little [mailto:danlittle at yahoo.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 04, 2010 10:05 AM
>> *To:* John Callahan
>> *Cc:* GeoMOOSE Users List
>> *Subject:* Re: [Geomoose-users] getting started, running the demos
>> question
>>
>>
>> We will probably not delay 2.2 in order to be PHP 5.3 ready. I would
>> expect that if we're going to focus on PHP 5.3/MS4W 3.0 then we're going to
>> need to rollout a 2.2.(1/2/5) that subsumes it as a "bug fix."
>>
>>
>> *From:* John Callahan <john.callahan at udel.edu>
>> *To:* Brent Fraser <bfraser at geoanalytic.com>
>> *Cc:* Dan Little <danlittle at yahoo.com>;
>> geomoose-users at lists.sourceforge.net
>> *Sent:* Mon, January 4, 2010 10:01:07 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Geomoose-users] getting started, running the demos
>> question
>>
>> Thanks Dan/Brent.
>>
>> Would you say that GeoMoose 2.2 would be tested/modified to work
>> with MapServer 5.4.x and PHP 5.3 (and therefore MS4W 3.0 from a
>> Windows perspective)? Actually, GM 2.2 could probably work for all
>> MapServer 5.x versions....
>>
>> And that GeoMoose 2.0.x works with MapServer 5.2.x and PHP 5.2 (and
>> therefore MS4W 2.3.x)?
>>
>>
>> I wouldn't mind using GM 2.2 with PHP 5.2 (at least temporarily) if
>> I can find a php_mapscript dll based on PHP 5.2 that works with
>> MapServer 5.4.2.
>>
>> - John
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Brent Fraser
>> <bfraser at geoanalytic.com <mailto:bfraser at geoanalytic.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Dan, John,
>>
>> I agree; we need to test GM 2.2 with MS4W 3.0. I'll have a look at
>> the beta.
>>
>> I see that PHP's dl() is deprecated (due to security and threading
>> issues), but the doc doesn't say what the replacement is (use the
>> PHP.ini?). I think our plan would be to modify config.php to test
>> if a module is loaded (as it does now) and just give a message if it
>> isn't:
>>
>> if(!extension_loaded('gd') && !extension_loaded('gd2')) {
>> printf( 'Please ensure the following extension is loaded
>> using php.ini:'.'php_gd2.'.PHP_SHLIB_SUFFIX);
>> }
>>
>> Unless there's a better way?
>>
>> As for the php.dbase.dll, we could ask the MS4W people to include it...
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Brent Fraser
>>
>> Dan Little wrote:
>>
>> I think we simply need to do more testing on the more bleeding edge
>> software. In some regard, we have enough issues keeping up with
>> browser changes. Moving past developer excuses, I'm running OS/X
>> 10.5.something and a few variants of debian and I believe they all
>> have PHP 5.2, which is why there is probably some quirks when moving
>> t o PHP 5.3.
>>
>>
>>
>> Brian/Len/Brent, any help on your versions? I just really don't use
>> Windows for anything but running IE...
>>
>>
>> *From:* John Callahan <john.callahan at udel.edu
>> <mailto:john.callahan at udel.edu>>
>>
>> *To:* geomoose-users at lists.sourceforge.net
>> <mailto:geomoose-users at lists.sourceforge.net>
>>
>> *Sent:* Sun, January 3, 2010 8:31:42 AM
>>
>> < b>Subject: [Geomoose-users] getting started, running the demos
>>
>>
>> question
>>
>> I'm trying to setup GeoMoose but ran into a problem that I'm not
>> sure how to fix. After several hours of modifying my environment,
>> here's where I'm at now:
>>
>>
>> Windows OS
>>
>> Apache 2.2.11
>>
>> PHP 5.3.1 (VC6 x86 Thread Safe (2009-Nov-19 10:20:08) from
>> http://windows.php.net/download/)
>>
>> MapServer 5.4.2 with PHP_MapScript from ms4w_3.0_beta7 2009-09-01
>> (
>> http://www.maptools.org/ms4w/index.phtml?page=README_INSTALL_3.0.html)
>>
>> GeoMoose from moose2-trunk as downloaded from the tarball as of Jan
>> 1. ( I choose this over the 2.0.1 release because I liked some of
>> the changes in 2.2.)
>>
>>
>> Apparently, the php dl() function is now deprecated as of PHP
>> 5.3. Even with the enable_dl set to 'On' in php.ini, it still
>> throws an
>> error when trying to run the demo. GeoMoose uses this function.
>> How can I get around that?
>>
>> Also, I see GeoMoose uses php_dbase extension. That dll is not in
>> the PHP or MS4W distributions I downloaded. I did see a php_ogr dll
>> in MW4W though. How can I get around this?
>>
>>
>> Lastly, I tried using php 5.2.8 and I WAS able to get the GeoMoose
>> demo mostly working. However, some problems were occurring, likely
>> because I didn't have php_mapscript, or maybe a wrong version. I
>> switched to php 5.3 because I couldn't find a php_mapscript for
>>
>> MapServer 5.4.2 for p hp 5.2.x and because it was what MS4W
>>
>>
>> currently supports.
>>
>> Thanks for any help or thoughts.
>>
>> - John
>>
>> **************************************************
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>> Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware
>> URL: http://www.dgs.udel.edu
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