[Geomoose-users] getting started, running the demos question
Dan Little
danlittle at yahoo.com
Tue Jan 5 15:37:03 EST 2010
We could also look at porting to SpatiaLite as another option... not quite as flexible for some things but definitely fixes a few problems with using a shapefile as a dependency. Might make Jim happier because we could support text fields with more than 255 characters....
----- Original Message ----
> From: Brent Fraser <bfraser at geoanalytic.com>
> To: Dan Little <danlittle at yahoo.com>
> Cc: GeoMOOSE Users List <geomoose-users at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 2:24:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Geomoose-users] getting started, running the demos question
>
> I've attached the write example. It doesn't look too bad (as long as it
> works).
>
> > Oh I know OGR can do it, it's a matter of whether or not there are PHP
> > binding that make those capabilities useful.
> >
> >>
> >>From: John Callahan
> >>To: bfraser at geoanalytic.com
> >>Cc: Dan Little ; GeoMOOSE Users List
> >>
> >>Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 2:12:20 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [Geomoose-users] getting started, running the demos question
> >>
> >>It also looks like OGR can create simple DBF files by using the ESRI
> >> Shapefile driver and specifying the SHPT option as null. Haven't tried
> >> it though.
> >>
> >>http://www.gdal.org/ogr/drv_shapefile.html
> >>
> >>- John
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Brent Fraser
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>Looking at the file dates at
> >>>http://dl.maptools.org/dl/php_ogr/
> >>>>>makes me skeptical about binaries being available in a timely
> >>>>> fashion...
> >>>
> >>>>>But the source is included in gdal distribution (swig/php)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>> I haven't used the OGR/PHP bindings, if they are reasonable then
> >>>>>> yes, but
> >>>>>> I *thought* OGR only did standard SWIG bindings (perl, python,
> >>>>>> ruby).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>>>>>> From: Brent Fraser
> >>>>>>> To: Dan Little
> >>>>>>> Cc: GeoMOOSE Users List
> >>>>>>> Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 1:37:30 PM
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Geomoose-users] getting started, running the demos
> >>>>>>> question
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Could we use OGR via PHP to create .dbf files?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> > Yeah, this is a bit of a problem as we need to be able to create
> >>>>>>> DBase
> >>>>>>> > files but the old module is no longer supported and the new one
> >>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>> > release.
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > Have I ever mentioned to this list how much I absolutely love PHP
> >>>>>>> and/or
> >>>>>>> > it's "mostly free" model?
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > ----- Original Message ----
> >>>>>>> >> From: Brent Fraser
> >>>>>>> >> To: John Callahan
> >>>>>>> >> Cc: GeoMOOSE Users List ; Brian
> >>>>>>> >> Fischer
> >>>>>>> >> Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 1:05:37 PM
> >>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Geomoose-users] getting started, running the demos
> >>>>>>> >> question
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> And of some interest, http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=49222,
> >>>>>>> says:
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> "dbase is unmaintained and moved to PECL though its yet to have
> >>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>> >> release
> >>>>>>> >> there."
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> So until a PHP 5.3 compatible version of php_dbase.dll shows up
> >>>>>>> there,
> >>>>>>> >> it looks
> >>>>>>> >> like some of GM v2.2 PHP functions (select, mailing labels) will
> >>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>> >> work with
> >>>>>>> >> MS4w 3.0.
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> Brent Fraser wrote:
> >>>>>>> >> > I didn't edit the config.php. All of the GM required PHP dlls
> >>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>> >> loaded via
> >>>>>>> >> > the php.ini file, except for php_dbase.dll. And since I don't
> >>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>> >> that one
> >>>>>>> >> on
> >>>>>>> >> > my test system, I'm confused why the print.php didn't crash
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> burn.
> >>>>>>> >> I only
> >>>>>>> >> > tested the print.php which doesn't actually use php_dbase.dll;
> >>>>>>> perhaps
> >>>>>>> >> the
> >>>>>>> >> dl()
> >>>>>>> >> > function is tolerant of files not being available (until a
> >>>>>>> function
> >>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>> >> used).
> >>>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>>> >> > Brent
> >>>>>>> >> >
> >>>>>>> >> > John Callahan wrote:
> >>>>>>> >> >> That's good to hear. Thanks Brent. Did you also edit the
> >>>>>>> >> config.php
> >>>>>>> >> >> to get rid of the dl() calls? or the php_dbase.dll dependence
> >>>>>>> (which
> >>>>>>> >> I
> >>>>>>> >> >> couldn't find in the ms4w 3.0 beta distribution)?
> >>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>> >> >> - John
> >>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>> >> >> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Brent Fraser
> >>>>>>> >> >> > wrote:
> >>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>> >> >> GM 2.2 (from SVN) running on MS4W 3.0 beta works ok after
> >>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>> >> edited the
> >>>>>>> >> >> mapbook.xml (for things we need to change anyway for the
> >>>>>>> 2.2
> >>>>>>> Beta
> >>>>>>> >> >> release).
> >>>>>>> >> >> Creation of PDF,HTML, and jpg documents for Printing
> >>>>>>> using PHP
> >>>>>>> >> seems
> >>>>>>> >> >> to work ok too.
> >>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>> >> >> Brent
> >>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>> >> >> Brent Fraser wrote:
> >>>>>>> >> >> > I just installed MS4W on a clean XP virtual machine.
> >>>>>>> Apache
> >>>>>>> >> would
> >>>>>>> >> >> not start; I
> >>>>>>> >> >> > had to install the VC++ 2008 redist package
> >>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>>
> (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=9B2DA534-3E03-4391-8A4D-074B9F2BC1BF&displaylang=en
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>> >> )
> >>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > Then it started and PHP reported:
> >>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > MapScript
> >>>>>>> >> >> > MapServer Version MapServer version 5.4.2 OUTPUT=GIF
> >>>>>>> >> OUTPUT=PNG
> >>>>>>> >> >> OUTPUT=JPEG
> >>>>>>> >> >> > OUTPUT=WBMP OUTPUT=PDF OUTPUT=SWF OUTPUT=SVG
> >>>>>>> SUPPORTS=PROJ
> >>>>>>> >> >> SUPPORTS=AGG
> >>>>>>> >> >> > SUPPORTS=FREETYPE SUPPORTS=ICONV SUPPORTS=FRIBIDI
> >>>>>>> >> SUPPORTS=WMS_SERVER
> >>>>>>> >> >> > SUPPORTS=WMS_CLIENT SUPPORTS=WFS_SERVER
> >>>>>>> SUPPORTS=WFS_CLIENT
> >>>>>>> >> >> SUPPORTS=WCS_SERVER
> >>>>>>> >> >> > SUPPORTS=SOS_SERVER SUPPORTS=FASTCGI SUPPORTS=THREADS
> >>>>>>> >> SUPPORTS=GEOS
> >>>>>>> >> >> > SUPPORTS=RGBA_PNG INPUT=JPEG INPUT=POSTGIS INPUT=OGR
> >>>>>>> >> INPUT=GDAL
> >>>>>>> >> >> INPUT=SHAPEFILE
> >>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > PHP MapScript Version ($Revision: 9099 $ $Date:
> >>>>>>> 2009-06-09
> >>>>>>> >> >> 00:39:18 -0300 (Tue,
> >>>>>>> >> >> > 09 Jun 2009) $)
> >>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > so I'm encouraged. I'll try GM next...
> >>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > Brent
> >>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > Brian Fischer wrote:
> >>>>> >> >> > > I really haven’t tested MS4W 3.0 beta
> >>>>> 7 with GM
> >>>
> >>>>> yet. I
> >>>>>>> >> tried when it
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > was in beta 2 and ran into some of these same
> >>>>>>> problems.
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > I would suggest if there are specific things we need
> >>>>>>> added
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> >> MS4W to
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > make things work with GM 2.2 we submit a bug. Kind
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>> >> the
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > Mapbender project did in this bug
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > http://bugzilla.maptools.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2086.
> >>>>>>> Then
> >>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>> >> it is
> >>>>>>> >> >> not to
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > hard for them to add they will do it.
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > Is the dbase .dll the only thing? I think when GM
> >>>>>>> 2.2
> >>>>>>> comes
> >>>>>>> >> out
> >>>>>>> >> >> we need
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > to explain the quirks of the dl() function.
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > *Brian Fischer,* CFM GIS Project Manager
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > *Houston Engineering, Inc.*
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > Phone: W: 763.493.4522 / M: 763.229.2734
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > *From:* Dan Little [mailto:danlittle at yahoo.com
> >>>>>>> >> >> ]
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > *Sent:* Monday, January 04, 2010 10:05 AM
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > *To:* John Callahan
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > *Cc:* GeoMOOSE Users List
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > *Subject:* Re: [Geomoose-users] getting started,
> >>>>>>> running
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> >> >> demos question
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > We will probably not delay 2.2 in order to be PHP 5.3
> >>>>>>> ready.
> >>>>>>> >> I would
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > expect that if we're going to focus on PHP 5.3/MS4W
> >>>>>>> 3.0
> >>>>>>> then
> >>>>>>> >> >> we're going
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > to need to rollout a 2.2.(1/2/5) that subsumes it as
> >>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>> "bug
> >>>>>>> >> fix."
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > *From:* John Callahan
> >>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > *To:* Brent Fraser
> >>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > *Cc:* Dan Little
> >>>>>>> >> >> >;
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > geomoose-users at lists.sourceforge.net
> >>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > *Sent:* Mon, January 4, 2010 10:01:07 AM
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > *Subject:* Re: [Geomoose-users] getting started,
> >>>>>>> running
> >>>>>>> >> the
> >>>>>>> >> >> demos
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > question
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > Thanks Dan/Brent.
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > Would you say that GeoMoose 2.2 would be
> >>>>>>> tested/modified
> >>>>>>> >> to work
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > with MapServer 5.4.x and PHP 5.3 (and therefore
> >>>>>>> MS4W
> >>>>>>> 3.0
> >>>>>>> >> from a
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > Windows perspective)? Actually, GM 2.2 could
> >>>>>>> probably
> >>>>>>> >> work
> >>>>>>> >> >> for all
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > MapServer 5.x versions....
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > And that GeoMoose 2.0.x works with MapServer
> >>>>>>> 5.2.x and
> >>>>>>> >> PHP
> >>>>>>> >> >> 5.2 (and
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > therefore MS4W 2.3.x)?
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > I wouldn't mind using GM 2.2 with PHP 5.2 (at
> >>>>>>> least
> >>>>>>> >> >> temporarily) if
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > I can find a php_mapscript dll based on PHP 5.2
> >>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>> >> works with
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > MapServer 5.4.2.
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > - John
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Brent Fraser
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>>>>> >> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > Dan, John,
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > I agree; we need to test GM 2.2 with MS4W 3.0.
> >>>>>>> I'll
> >>>>>>> >> have a
> >>>>>>> >> >> look at
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > the beta.
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > I see that PHP's dl() is deprecated (due to
> >>>>>>> security
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> >> >> threading
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > issues), but the doc doesn't say what the
> >>>>>>> replacement
> >>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>> >> (use the
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > PHP.ini?). I think our plan would be to modify
> >>>>>>> >> config.php to
> >>>>>>> >> >> test
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > if a module is loaded (as it does now) and just
> >>>>>>> give a
> >>>>>>> >> >> message if it
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > isn't:
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > if(!extension_loaded('gd') &&
> >>>>>>> !extension_loaded('gd2')) {
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > printf( 'Please ensure the following
> >>>>>>> extension
> >>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>> >> loaded
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > using php.ini:'.'php_gd2.'.PHP_SHLIB_SUFFIX);
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > }
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > Unless there's a better way?
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > As for the php.dbase.dll, we could ask the MS4W
> >>>>>>> people
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> >> >> include it...
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > Best Regards,
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > Brent Fraser
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > Dan Little wrote:
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > I think we simply need to do more testing on the
> >>>>>>> more
> >>>>>>> >> >> bleeding edge
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > software. In some regard, we have enough issues
> >>>>>>> keeping
> >>>>>>> >> up with
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > browser changes. Moving past developer excuses,
> >>>>>>> I'm
> >>>>>>> >> running
> >>>>>>> >> >> OS/X
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > 10.5.something and a few variants of debian and I
> >>>>>>> believe
> >>>>>>> >> >> they all
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > have PHP 5.2, which is why there is probably some
> >>>>>>> quirks
> >>>>>>> >> when
> >>>>>>> >> >> moving
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > t o PHP 5.3.
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > Brian/Len/Brent, any help on your versions? I
> >>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>> really
> >>>>>>> >> >> don't use
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > Windows for anything but running IE...
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > *From:* John Callahan
> >>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > >>
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > *To:* geomoose-users at lists.sourceforge.net
> >>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > *Sent:* Sun, January 3, 2010 8:31:42 AM
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > < b>Subject: [Geomoose-users] getting started,
> >>>>>>> running
> >>>>>>> >> the
> >>>>>>> >> >> demos
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > question
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > I'm trying to setup GeoMoose but ran into a
> >>>>>>> problem
> >>>>>>> >> that
> >>>>>>> >> >> I'm not
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > sure how to fix. After several hours of
> >>>>>>> modifying
> >>>>>>> my
> >>>>>>> >> >> environment,
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > here's where I'm at now:
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > Windows OS
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > Apache 2.2.11
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > PHP 5.3.1 (VC6 x86 Thread Safe (2009-Nov-19
> >>>>>>> 10:20:08)
> >>>>>>> >> from
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > http://windows.php.net/download/)
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > MapServer 5.4.2 with PHP_MapScript from
> >>>>>>> ms4w_3.0_beta7
> >>>>>>> >> >> 2009-09-01
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >>
> >>>>>>> (http://www.maptools.org/ms4w/index.phtml?page=README_INSTALL_3.0.html)
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > GeoMoose from moose2-trunk as downloaded from
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> >> tarball
> >>>>>>> >> >> as of Jan
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > 1. ( I choose this over the 2.0.1 release
> >>>>>>> because
> >>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>> >> liked
> >>>>>>> >> >> some of
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > the changes in 2.2.)
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > Apparently, the php dl() function is now
> >>>>>>> deprecated
> >>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>> >> of PHP
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > 5.3. Even with the enable_dl set to 'On' in
> >>>>>>> php.ini,
> >>>>>>> >> it still
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > throws an
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > error when trying to run the demo. GeoMoose
> >>>>>>> uses
> >>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>> >> >> function.
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > How can I get around that?
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > Also, I see GeoMoose uses php_dbase extension.
> >>>>>>> That
> >>>>>>> >> dll
> >>>>>>> >> >> is not in
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > the PHP or MS4W distributions I downloaded. I
> >>>>>>> did
> >>>>>>> see
> >>>>>>> >> a
> >>>>>>> >> >> php_ogr dll
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > in MW4W though. How can I get around this?
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > Lastly, I tried using php 5.2.8 and I WAS able
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> get
> >>>>>>> >> the
> >>>>>>> >> >> GeoMoose
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > demo mostly working. However, some problems
> >>>>>>> were
> >>>>>>> >> >> occurring, likely
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > because I didn't have php_mapscript, or maybe
> >>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>> wrong
> >>>>>>> >> >> version. I
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > switched to php 5.3 because I couldn't find a
> >>>>>>> >> >> php_mapscript for
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > MapServer 5.4.2 for p hp 5.2.x and because it
> >>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>> what
> >>>>>>> >> MS4W
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > currently supports.
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > Thanks for any help or thoughts.
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > - John
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > **************************************************
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > John Callahan, Geospatial Application
> >>>>>>> Developer
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > Delaware Geological Survey, University of
> >>>>>>> Delaware
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > URL: http://www.dgs.udel.edu
> >>>>>>> >> >> > > **************************************************
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >> > >
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