[Geomoose-users] how to install geomoose?

Nitin Gadia nittyjee at gmail.com
Fri Aug 5 13:12:41 EDT 2011 

I went to
http://localhost/geomoose2/geomoose.html

and it worked...

but I'm not getting the layers or the tools. Are those separate adds?
I thought that the "GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W - Web Mercator Demo"
would have the layers and tools already shown, like they are here
(without the edits):
http://geomoose.org/demo/geomoose2-webmercator/geomoose.htmlhttp://geomoose.org/demo/geomoose2-webmercator/geomoose.html

I've attached a screenshot to show what my screen is like.

Should I still install "GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W" as you recommended?

I would want to use the mercator demo if I can I think... I probably
want to be able to use the standard stuff right outside of the box...

After this is all done, I'll update the wiki :)


thanks a lot
nitin


On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Eli Adam <EAdam at co.lincoln.or.us> wrote:
> Nitin,
>
>> I did get MS4W working, but not Geomoose at
> http://localhost/geomoose/
>
> Looks like gradual progress.
> Does MS4W working means that you go to localhost and get the MS4W info
> and details page?
>
>>
>> Here's what I did, in order:
>>
>> (1) Downloaded "ms4w_2.3.1.zip" from here:
>> http://dl.maptools.org/dl/ms4w/
>>
>> (2) Already downloaded "GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W - Web Mercator Demo"
> from here:
>> http://geomoose.org/info/download.html
>>
>> (3) I transferred both of the *.zip files above to C:\
>>
>> (4) I unzipped each of them with winrar, and files with the same
> names
>> as above were created as following:
>> C:\GeoMOOSE-mercdemo-2.4-MS4W
>> C:\ms4w_2.3.1
>
> This unzipping step is where things seem to have gone wrong.  winrar
> apparently defaults to creating a new folder and not merging things.
> Try the unzipping step again with a different program (like the default
> windows utility) or changing settings on winrar.  When you unzip both
> those folders you should get C:\ms4w\(more here) and then the geomoose
> contents should get placed inside those folders like
> C:\ms4w\apps\geomoose2\
>
>>
>> The files were separate.
>>
>> (5) I went to:
>> C:\ms4w_2.3.1\ms4w\apache-install.bat
>>
>> And double-clicked.
>>
>> (6) I restarted the computer
>>
>> (7) I checked http://localhost/
>>
>> And I saw Mapserver
>>
>> (8) Since, the following file was separate:
>> C:\GeoMOOSE-mercdemo-2.4-MS4W
>>
>> I "cut":
>> C:\GeoMOOSE-mercdemo-2.4-MS4W\ms4w
>>
>> and "pasted" in:
>> C:\
>>
>> and when it asked me to "merge", I clicked "yes"
>>
>> (9) I tried to go to:
>> http://localhost/geomoose/
>>
>> but got a "404 not found" message
>>
>> (10) I tried restarting the computer, and I went to:
>> http://localhost/geomoose/
>
>
> This looks like a mistake on my part.  The apache alias seems to be
> geomoose2 not geomoose.  However, just go to localhost and scroll to the
> bottom and it should show you how many application you have installed
> along with links to click on.  That will take you to
> http://localhost/geomoose2/geomoose.html (this works partly for me).
>
> I'd recommend the other demo at
> http://geomoose.org/downloads/GeoMOOSE-2.4-MS4W.zip  That is the one
> that I tried when I first started and it seems to be the main demo and
> work well.
>
> HTH, Eli
>
>
>>
>> and it still didn't work
>>
>> (11) I tried to click:
>> C:\ms4w_2.3.1\ms4w\apache-uninstall.bat
>>
>> then clicked
>>
>> C:\ms4w_2.3.1\ms4w\apache-install.bat
>>
>> and then tried again to go to http://localhost/geomoose/
>>
>> and it still didn't work.
>>
>> (12) I again tried restarting the computer, and again went to:
>> http://localhost/geomoose/
>>
>> and it still didn't work
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I've done everything according to the instructions provided me,
>> however when I unzip the files, it is very different from what the
>> instructions say should happen, as detailed above. Unless you know
>> what is wrong clearly from what I wrote above, please try and do it
>> yourself according to the instructions I've been provided, and tell
> me
>> if I'm missing something.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nitin
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Eli Adam <EAdam at co.lincoln.or.us>
> wrote:
>>> Nitin,
>>>> The directions have some serious problems:
>>>>
>>>> *First of all, the instructions at the wiki appear to be identical
> to
>>> these
>>>> instructions, which are WAY easier on the eyes, along with
>>> screenshots:
>>>> - Wiki:
>>>>
>>>
> http://www.geomoose.org/wiki/index.php/Installation#Windows_Installation_Gui
>
>>>
>>>> de
>>>> - Identical better format:
>>> http://www.geomoose.org/docs/install_ms4w.html
>>>
>>> Thanks for fixing up the wiki formatting.  Yes, I think that it was
>>> copied from one place to the other.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> *It says not to use "MS4W 3.0 beta 10 and GeoMOOSE, we recommend
> that
>>> you
>>>> use MS4W 2.3.1"
>>>> - looking in the history here, it was upgraded from "beta 10" on
>>> 4/20/10,
>>>> and it is into "version 3.03" as of 7/12/11":
>>>> http://www.maptools.org/ms4w/index.phtml?page=HISTORY.txt
>>>
>>> MS4W 3.0.3 uses MapServer 6.x which GeoMoose is not quite ready for.
>  I
>>> think that Jim is currently updating that.  I would recommend MS4W
>>> 2.3.1.  You can find it at, http://dl.maptools.org/dl/ms4w/
>>>
>>>>
>>>> *I download the following files:
>>>> - MS4W: http://www.maptools.org/ms4w/
>>>> - GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W - Web Mercator Demo:
>>>> http://geomoose.org/info/download.html
>>>>
>>>> *The files are different from what it explains in the instructions.
> I
>>> ended
>>>> up merging the folders that were in the geomoose folder with what
> was
>>> in the
>>>> MS4W folder, and when I typed in [http://localhost/] nothing
> showed
>>> up.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Both of these zip files are designed to be extracted at the root of
> C:
>>> (MS4W should be done first)  That will put a geomoose folder into
>>> C:\ms4w\apps\  It will also probably put a httpd_geomoose_m24w.conf
> in
>>> C:\ms4w\httpd.d\ which sets up an Apache alias like this:
>>>
>>> Alias /geomoose/ "/ms4w/apps/geomoose/htdocs/"
>>>
>>> GeoMoose will be found at http://localhost/geomoose/ (or whatever
> your
>>> .conf file sets up).  However, according to the README_INSTALL.txt
> at
>>> C:\ms4w\, you should have gotten the main ms4w page at localhost.
> Try
>>> making sure that you have gone through all the proper steps to
> install
>>> ms4w.  The read me covers a lot of things, like have the MS
>>> redistributables if needed, etc.  Specific errors and details can
> be
>>> helpful for remote troubleshooting.  So does going to localhost give
> an
>>> error?  Is there anything in the apache logs?  In general, MS4W is
> set
>>> up to extract .zip files at the root of the drive and have
> everything
>>> working.  Searching the ms4w mailing list
>>> http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/ms4w-users-f4995553.html may
>>> help with particular errors or operating system details.
>>>
>>> Best Regards, Eli
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What do I need to do??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nitin
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Bob Basques
>>>> <Bob.Basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  All,
>>>>>
>>>>>  Ok, sorry about that I confused GM1.6 with GM2.6, for some
> reason
>>> they
>>>>> looked the same to me.  Oops.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I have installed GeoMoose 2.4 on a Windows 7 machine
> successfully
>>> with
>>>>> OSGEO4W (similar to MS4W, but with a lot more stuff)  MS4W is
> also
>>> supported
>>>>> by the GeoMoose community, and is the preferred install method
> for
>>> Windows,
>>>>>  while I had to configure things manually for the OSGEO4W version
> of
>>> things.
>>>>>  I would stay away from OSGEO4W to begin with and stick with MS4W
> in
>>> the
>>>>> near term.
>>>>>
>>>>>  bobb
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >>> Nitin Gadia <nittyjee at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ... looks like i didn't reply-all before either...
>>>>>
>>>>> Earlier I asked Bob Basques whether I need a Windows Server
> edition
>>>>> installed, or I can just use what I have (windows 7 ultimate).
>>>>> I suppose that Bob was implying that I can just install it with
> what
>>> I
>>>>> have.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> nitin
>>>>>
>>>>>   On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Nitin Gadia
> <nittyjee at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  oops, i didn't reply-all
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those instructions look easy enough.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll try to do it today...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> in the meantime, what will I have if I am just going to install
>>> the
>>>>>> “GeoMOOSE 2.2 for MS4W”?
>>>>>> Will I be able to see any basemaps?
>>>>>> I suppose if I want ot see any basemaps I might just install the
>>> “GeoMOOSE
>>>>>> 2.2 for MS4W - Web Mercator Demo”?? Are there any downsides to
>>> just
>>>>>> installing the demo? Isn't web mercator a standard anyway?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks a lot
>>>>>>
>>>>>> nitin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Dan Little
> <danlittle at yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Yeah, referring to the .info website is not a good idea
> anymore.
>>> It
>>>>>>> will probably expire at the end of this year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    The old .info site only refers to 1.6 stuff and that is long
>>> out of
>>>>>>> anything resembling support.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    ------------------------------
>>>>>>> *From:* Bob Basques <Bob.Basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us>
>>>>>>> *To:* Nitin Gadia <nittyjee at gmail.com>;
>>>>>>> geomoose-users at lists.sourceforge.net
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 3, 2011 4:37 PM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Geomoose-users] how to install geomoose?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Nitin,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Start here for a windows install:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   *
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
> http://www.geomoose.info/moose1/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Ite
>
>>
>>>
>>>> mid=30
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   other OSs are here as well:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   *
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
> http://www.geomoose.info/moose1/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sect
>
>>
>>>
>>>> ionid=4&id=13&Itemid=30
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   bobb
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>> Nitin Gadia <nittyjee at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to install a server, and install geomoose on it.
>>>>>>> How do I do this??
>>>>>>> I'm very new to doing this, so please bear with me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Nitin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
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