[Geomoose-users] how to install geomoose?

Eli Adam EAdam at co.lincoln.or.us
Fri Aug 5 13:41:56 EDT 2011 

Nitin,

> I went to
> http://localhost/geomoose2/geomoose.html 
> 
> and it worked...
> 
> but I'm not getting the layers or the tools. Are those separate
adds?

The tools and layers should not be a separate add.  The web mercator
demo is perhaps in need of a little attention to work as intended.  

> I thought that the "GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W - Web Mercator Demo"
> would have the layers and tools already shown, like they are here
> (without the edits):
>
http://geomoose.org/demo/geomoose2-webmercator/geomoose.htmlhttp://geomooseo

> rg/demo/geomoose2-webmercator/geomoose.html
> 
> I've attached a screenshot to show what my screen is like.

I got similar results as you.  

> 
> Should I still install "GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W" as you recommended?

I think that is a good idea.  You will have to decide for yourself.  

> 
> I would want to use the mercator demo if I can I think... I probably
> want to be able to use the standard stuff right outside of the
box...

Once you are a little familiar with the working demo, then perhaps it
will be easier to look at the web mercator demo and make a few tweaks to
make it work for you.  Perhaps search the email list about the web
mercator demo, someone else may have already hit this and the fix is on
the list.  

> 
> After this is all done, I'll update the wiki :)
> 

Thanks.

Eli

> 
> thanks a lot
> nitin
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Eli Adam <EAdam at co.lincoln.or.us>
wrote:
>> Nitin,
>>
>>> I did get MS4W working, but not Geomoose at
>> http://localhost/geomoose/ 
>>
>> Looks like gradual progress.
>> Does MS4W working means that you go to localhost and get the MS4W
info
>> and details page?
>>
>>>
>>> Here's what I did, in order:
>>>
>>> (1) Downloaded "ms4w_2.3.1.zip" from here:
>>> http://dl.maptools.org/dl/ms4w/ 
>>>
>>> (2) Already downloaded "GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W - Web Mercator Demo"
>> from here:
>>> http://geomoose.org/info/download.html 
>>>
>>> (3) I transferred both of the *.zip files above to C:\
>>>
>>> (4) I unzipped each of them with winrar, and files with the same
>> names
>>> as above were created as following:
>>> C:\GeoMOOSE-mercdemo-2.4-MS4W
>>> C:\ms4w_2.3.1
>>
>> This unzipping step is where things seem to have gone wrong. 
winrar
>> apparently defaults to creating a new folder and not merging
things.
>> Try the unzipping step again with a different program (like the
default
>> windows utility) or changing settings on winrar.  When you unzip
both
>> those folders you should get C:\ms4w\(more here) and then the
geomoose
>> contents should get placed inside those folders like
>> C:\ms4w\apps\geomoose2\
>>
>>>
>>> The files were separate.
>>>
>>> (5) I went to:
>>> C:\ms4w_2.3.1\ms4w\apache-install.bat
>>>
>>> And double-clicked.
>>>
>>> (6) I restarted the computer
>>>
>>> (7) I checked http://localhost/ 
>>>
>>> And I saw Mapserver
>>>
>>> (8) Since, the following file was separate:
>>> C:\GeoMOOSE-mercdemo-2.4-MS4W
>>>
>>> I "cut":
>>> C:\GeoMOOSE-mercdemo-2.4-MS4W\ms4w
>>>
>>> and "pasted" in:
>>> C:\
>>>
>>> and when it asked me to "merge", I clicked "yes"
>>>
>>> (9) I tried to go to:
>>> http://localhost/geomoose/ 
>>>
>>> but got a "404 not found" message
>>>
>>> (10) I tried restarting the computer, and I went to:
>>> http://localhost/geomoose/ 
>>
>>
>> This looks like a mistake on my part.  The apache alias seems to be
>> geomoose2 not geomoose.  However, just go to localhost and scroll to
the
>> bottom and it should show you how many application you have
installed
>> along with links to click on.  That will take you to
>> http://localhost/geomoose2/geomoose.html (this works partly for
me).
>>
>> I'd recommend the other demo at
>> http://geomoose.org/downloads/GeoMOOSE-2.4-MS4W.zip  That is the
one
>> that I tried when I first started and it seems to be the main demo
and
>> work well.
>>
>> HTH, Eli
>>
>>
>>>
>>> and it still didn
't work
>>>
>>> (11) I tried to click:
>>> C:\ms4w_2.3.1\ms4w\apache-uninstall.bat
>>>
>>> then clicked
>>>
>>> C:\ms4w_2.3.1\ms4w\apache-install.bat
>>>
>>> and then tried again to go to http://localhost/geomoose/ 
>>>
>>> and it still didn't work.
>>>
>>> (12) I again tried restarting the computer, and again went to:
>>> http://localhost/geomoose/ 
>>>
>>> and it still didn't work
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've done everything according to the instructions provided me,
>>> however when I unzip the files, it is very different from what the
>>> instructions say should happen, as detailed above. Unless you know
>>> what is wrong clearly from what I wrote above, please try and do
it
>>> yourself according to the instructions I've been provided, and
tell
>> me
>>> if I'm missing something.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Nitin
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Eli Adam <EAdam at co.lincoln.or.us>
>> wrote:
>>>> Nitin,
>>>>> The directions have some serious problems:
>>>>>
>>>>> *First of all, the instructions at the wiki appear to be
identical
>> to
>>>> these
>>>>> instructions, which are WAY easier on the eyes, along with
>>>> screenshots:
>>>>> - Wiki:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
http://www.geomoose.org/wiki/index.php/Installation#Windows_Installation_Gui

>>
>>>>
>>>>> de
>>>>> - Identical better format:
>>>> http://www.geomoose.org/docs/install_ms4w.html 
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for fixing up the wiki formatting.  Yes, I think that it
was
>>>> copied from one place to the other.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *It says not to use "MS4W 3.0 beta 10 and GeoMOOSE, we recommend
>> that
>>>> you
>>>>> use MS4W 2.3.1"
>>>>> - looking in the history here, it was upgraded from "beta 10" on
>>>> 4/20/10,
>>>>> and it is into "version 3.03" as of 7/12/11":
>>>>> http://www.maptools.org/ms4w/index.phtml?page=HISTORY.txt 
>>>>
>>>> MS4W 3.0.3 uses MapServer 6.x which GeoMoose is not quite ready
for.
>>  I
>>>> think that Jim is currently updating that.  I would recommend
MS4W
>>>> 2.3.1.  You can find it at, http://dl.maptools.org/dl/ms4w/ 
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *I download the following files:
>>>>> - MS4W: http://www.maptools.org/ms4w/ 
>>>>> - GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W - Web Mercator Demo:
>>>>> http://geomoose.org/info/download.html 
>>>>>
>>>>> *The files are different from what it explains in the
instructions.
>> I
>>>> ended
>>>>> up merging the folders that were in the geomoose folder with
what
>> was
>>>> in the
>>>>> MS4W folder, and when I typed in [http://localhost/] nothing
>> showed
>>>> up.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Both of these zip files are designed to be extracted at the root
of
>> C:
>>>> (MS4W should be done first)  That will put a geomoose folder into
>>>> C:\ms4w\apps\  It will also probably put a
httpd_geomoose_m24w.conf
>> in
>>>> C:\ms4w\httpd.d\ which sets up an Apache alias like this:
>>>>
>>>> Alias /geomoose/ "/ms4w/apps/geomoose/htdocs/"
>>>>
>>>> GeoMoose will be found at http://localhost/geomoose/ (or whatever
>> your
>>>> .conf file sets up).  However, according to the
README_INSTALL.txt
>> at
>>>> C:\ms4w\, you should have gotten the main ms4w page at localhost.
>> Try
>>>> making sure that you have gone through all the proper steps to
>> install
>>>> ms4w.  The read me covers a lot of things, like have the MS
>>>> redistributables if needed, etc.  Specific errors and details can
>> be
>>>> helpful for remote troubleshooting.  So does going to localhost
give
>> an
>>>> error?  Is there anything in the apache logs?  In general, MS4W
is
>> set
>>>> up to extract .zip files at the root of the drive and have
>> everything
>>>> working.  Searching the ms4w mailing list
>>>> http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/ms4w-users-f4995553.html
may
>>>> help with particular errors or operating system details.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards, Eli
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What do I need to do??
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nitin
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Bob Basques
>>>>> <Bob.Basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  All,
>>>>>>

>>>>>>  Ok, sorry about that I confused GM1.6 with GM2.6, for some
>> reason
>>>> they
>>>>>> looked the same to me.  Oops.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I have installed GeoMoose 2.4 on a Windows 7 machine
>> successfully
>>>> with
>>>>>> OSGEO4W (similar to MS4W, but with a lot more stuff)  MS4W is
>> also
>>>> supported
>>>>>> by the GeoMoose community, and is the preferred install method
>> for
>>>> Windows,
>>>>>>  while I had to configure things manually for the OSGEO4W
version
>> of
>>>> things.
>>>>>>  I would stay away from OSGEO4W to begin with and stick with
MS4W
>> in
>>>> the
>>>>>> near term.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  bobb
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> Nitin Gadia <nittyjee at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ... looks like i didn't reply-all before either...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Earlier I asked Bob Basques whether I need a Windows Server
>> edition
>>>>>> installed, or I can just use what I have (windows 7 ultimate).
>>>>>> I suppose that Bob was implying that I can just install it with
>> what
>>>> I
>>>>>> have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>> nitin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Nitin Gadia
>> <nittyjee at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  oops, i didn't reply-all
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Those instructions look easy enough.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll try to do it today...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> in the meantime, what will I have if I am just going to
install
>>>> the
>>>>>>> “GeoMOOSE 2.2 for MS4W”?
>>>>>>> Will I be able to see any basemaps?
>>>>>>> I suppose if I want ot see any basemaps I might just install
the
>>>> “GeoMOOSE
>>>>>>> 2.2 for MS4W - Web Mercator Demo”?? Are there any downsides
to
>>>> just
>>>>>>> installing the demo? Isn't web mercator a standard anyway?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks a lot
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> nitin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Dan Little
>> <danlittle at yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Yeah, referring to the .info website is not a good idea
>> anymore.
>>>> It
>>>>>>>> will probably expire at the end of this year.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    The old .info site only refers to 1.6 stuff and that is
long
>>>> out of
>>>>>>>> anything resembling support.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    ------------------------------
>>>>>>>> *From:* Bob Basques <Bob.Basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us>
>>>>>>>> *To:* Nitin Gadia <nittyjee at gmail.com>;
>>>>>>>> geomoose-users at lists.sourceforge.net 
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 3, 2011 4:37 PM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Geomoose-users] how to install geomoose?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Nitin,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Start here for a windows install:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> 
>
http://www.geomoose.info/moose1/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Ite

> 
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> mid=30
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   other OSs are here as well:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> 
>
http://www.geomoose.info/moose1/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sect

> 
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ionid=4&id=13&Itemid=30
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   bobb
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>> Nitin Gadia <nittyjee at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like to install a server, and install geomoose on it.
>>>>>>>> How do I do this??
>>>>>>>> I'm very new to doing this, so please bear with me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Nitin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
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