[Geomoose-users] how to install geomoose?

Fri Aug 5 14:13:04 EDT 2011

If I install the "GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W", what will I get on the
screen? Would it be the same blank stuff without the tools or any
basemaps?

nitin

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Eli Adam <EAdam at co.lincoln.or.us> wrote:
> Nitin,
>
>> I went to
>> http://localhost/geomoose2/geomoose.html
>>
>> and it worked...
>>
>> but I'm not getting the layers or the tools. Are those separate
> adds?
>
> The tools and layers should not be a separate add.  The web mercator
> demo is perhaps in need of a little attention to work as intended.
>
>> I thought that the "GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W - Web Mercator Demo"
>> would have the layers and tools already shown, like they are here
>> (without the edits):
>>
> http://geomoose.org/demo/geomoose2-webmercator/geomoose.htmlhttp://geomoose.o
>
>> rg/demo/geomoose2-webmercator/geomoose.html
>>
>> I've attached a screenshot to show what my screen is like.
>
> I got similar results as you.
>
>>
>> Should I still install "GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W" as you recommended?
>
> I think that is a good idea.  You will have to decide for yourself.
>
>>
>> I would want to use the mercator demo if I can I think... I probably
>> want to be able to use the standard stuff right outside of the
> box...
>
> Once you are a little familiar with the working demo, then perhaps it
> will be easier to look at the web mercator demo and make a few tweaks to
> make it work for you.  Perhaps search the email list about the web
> mercator demo, someone else may have already hit this and the fix is on
> the list.
>
>>
>> After this is all done, I'll update the wiki :)
>>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Eli
>
>>
>> thanks a lot
>> nitin
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Eli Adam <EAdam at co.lincoln.or.us>
> wrote:
>>> Nitin,
>>>
>>>> I did get MS4W working, but not Geomoose at
>>> http://localhost/geomoose/
>>>
>>> Looks like gradual progress.
>>> Does MS4W working means that you go to localhost and get the MS4W
> info
>>> and details page?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here's what I did, in order:
>>>>
>>>> (1) Downloaded "ms4w_2.3.1.zip" from here:
>>>> http://dl.maptools.org/dl/ms4w/
>>>>
>>>> (2) Already downloaded "GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W - Web Mercator Demo"
>>> from here:
>>>> http://geomoose.org/info/download.html
>>>>
>>>> (3) I transferred both of the *.zip files above to C:\
>>>>
>>>> (4) I unzipped each of them with winrar, and files with the same
>>> names
>>>> as above were created as following:
>>>> C:\GeoMOOSE-mercdemo-2.4-MS4W
>>>> C:\ms4w_2.3.1
>>>
>>> This unzipping step is where things seem to have gone wrong.
> winrar
>>> apparently defaults to creating a new folder and not merging
> things.
>>> Try the unzipping step again with a different program (like the
> default
>>> windows utility) or changing settings on winrar.  When you unzip
> both
>>> those folders you should get C:\ms4w\(more here) and then the
> geomoose
>>> contents should get placed inside those folders like
>>> C:\ms4w\apps\geomoose2\
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The files were separate.
>>>>
>>>> (5) I went to:
>>>> C:\ms4w_2.3.1\ms4w\apache-install.bat
>>>>
>>>> And double-clicked.
>>>>
>>>> (6) I restarted the computer
>>>>
>>>> (7) I checked http://localhost/
>>>>
>>>> And I saw Mapserver
>>>>
>>>> (8) Since, the following file was separate:
>>>> C:\GeoMOOSE-mercdemo-2.4-MS4W
>>>>
>>>> I "cut":
>>>> C:\GeoMOOSE-mercdemo-2.4-MS4W\ms4w
>>>>
>>>> and "pasted" in:
>>>> C:\
>>>>
>>>> and when it asked me to "merge", I clicked "yes"
>>>>
>>>> (9) I tried to go to:
>>>> http://localhost/geomoose/
>>>>
>>>> but got a "404 not found" message
>>>>
>>>> (10) I tried restarting the computer, and I went to:
>>>> http://localhost/geomoose/
>>>
>>>
>>> This looks like a mistake on my part.  The apache alias seems to be
>>> geomoose2 not geomoose.  However, just go to localhost and scroll to
> the
>>> bottom and it should show you how many application you have
> installed
>>> along with links to click on.  That will take you to
>>> http://localhost/geomoose2/geomoose.html (this works partly for
> me).
>>>
>>> I'd recommend the other demo at
>>> http://geomoose.org/downloads/GeoMOOSE-2.4-MS4W.zip  That is the
> one
>>> that I tried when I first started and it seems to be the main demo
> and
>>> work well.
>>>
>>> HTH, Eli
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> and it still didn't work
>>>>
>>>> (11) I tried to click:
>>>> C:\ms4w_2.3.1\ms4w\apache-uninstall.bat
>>>>
>>>> then clicked
>>>>
>>>> C:\ms4w_2.3.1\ms4w\apache-install.bat
>>>>
>>>> and then tried again to go to http://localhost/geomoose/
>>>>
>>>> and it still didn't work.
>>>>
>>>> (12) I again tried restarting the computer, and again went to:
>>>> http://localhost/geomoose/
>>>>
>>>> and it still didn't work
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've done everything according to the instructions provided me,
>>>> however when I unzip the files, it is very different from what the
>>>> instructions say should happen, as detailed above. Unless you know
>>>> what is wrong clearly from what I wrote above, please try and do
> it
>>>> yourself according to the instructions I've been provided, and
> tell
>>> me
>>>> if I'm missing something.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Nitin
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Eli Adam <EAdam at co.lincoln.or.us>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Nitin,
>>>>>> The directions have some serious problems:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *First of all, the instructions at the wiki appear to be
> identical
>>> to
>>>>> these
>>>>>> instructions, which are WAY easier on the eyes, along with
>>>>> screenshots:
>>>>>> - Wiki:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
> http://www.geomoose.org/wiki/index.php/Installation#Windows_Installation_Gui
>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> de
>>>>>> - Identical better format:
>>>>> http://www.geomoose.org/docs/install_ms4w.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for fixing up the wiki formatting.  Yes, I think that it
> was
>>>>> copied from one place to the other.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *It says not to use "MS4W 3.0 beta 10 and GeoMOOSE, we recommend
>>> that
>>>>> you
>>>>>> use MS4W 2.3.1"
>>>>>> - looking in the history here, it was upgraded from "beta 10" on
>>>>> 4/20/10,
>>>>>> and it is into "version 3.03" as of 7/12/11":
>>>>>> http://www.maptools.org/ms4w/index.phtml?page=HISTORY.txt
>>>>>
>>>>> MS4W 3.0.3 uses MapServer 6.x which GeoMoose is not quite ready
> for.
>>>  I
>>>>> think that Jim is currently updating that.  I would recommend
> MS4W
>>>>> 2.3.1.  You can find it at, http://dl.maptools.org/dl/ms4w/
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *I download the following files:
>>>>>> - MS4W: http://www.maptools.org/ms4w/
>>>>>> - GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W - Web Mercator Demo:
>>>>>> http://geomoose.org/info/download.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *The files are different from what it explains in the
> instructions.
>>> I
>>>>> ended
>>>>>> up merging the folders that were in the geomoose folder with
> what
>>> was
>>>>> in the
>>>>>> MS4W folder, and when I typed in [http://localhost/] nothing
>>> showed
>>>>> up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Both of these zip files are designed to be extracted at the root
> of
>>> C:
>>>>> (MS4W should be done first)  That will put a geomoose folder into
>>>>> C:\ms4w\apps\  It will also probably put a
> httpd_geomoose_m24w.conf
>>> in
>>>>> C:\ms4w\httpd.d\ which sets up an Apache alias like this:
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias /geomoose/ "/ms4w/apps/geomoose/htdocs/"
>>>>>
>>>>> GeoMoose will be found at http://localhost/geomoose/ (or whatever
>>> your
>>>>> .conf file sets up).  However, according to the
> README_INSTALL.txt
>>> at
>>>>> C:\ms4w\, you should have gotten the main ms4w page at localhost.
>>> Try
>>>>> making sure that you have gone through all the proper steps to
>>> install
>>>>> ms4w.  The read me covers a lot of things, like have the MS
>>>>> redistributables if needed, etc.  Specific errors and details can
>>> be
>>>>> helpful for remote troubleshooting.  So does going to localhost
> give
>>> an
>>>>> error?  Is there anything in the apache logs?  In general, MS4W
> is
>>> set
>>>>> up to extract .zip files at the root of the drive and have
>>> everything
>>>>> working.  Searching the ms4w mailing list
>>>>> http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/ms4w-users-f4995553.html
> may
>>>>> help with particular errors or operating system details.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards, Eli
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do I need to do??
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nitin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Bob Basques
>>>>>> <Bob.Basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Ok, sorry about that I confused GM1.6 with GM2.6, for some
>>> reason
>>>>> they
>>>>>>> looked the same to me.  Oops.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I have installed GeoMoose 2.4 on a Windows 7 machine
>>> successfully
>>>>> with
>>>>>>> OSGEO4W (similar to MS4W, but with a lot more stuff)  MS4W is
>>> also
>>>>> supported
>>>>>>> by the GeoMoose community, and is the preferred install method
>>> for
>>>>> Windows,
>>>>>>>  while I had to configure things manually for the OSGEO4W
> version
>>> of
>>>>> things.
>>>>>>>  I would stay away from OSGEO4W to begin with and stick with
> MS4W
>>> in
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> near term.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  bobb
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>> Nitin Gadia <nittyjee at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ... looks like i didn't reply-all before either...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Earlier I asked Bob Basques whether I need a Windows Server
>>> edition
>>>>>>> installed, or I can just use what I have (windows 7 ultimate).
>>>>>>> I suppose that Bob was implying that I can just install it with
>>> what
>>>>> I
>>>>>>> have.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> nitin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Nitin Gadia
>>> <nittyjee at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  oops, i didn't reply-all
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Those instructions look easy enough.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll try to do it today...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in the meantime, what will I have if I am just going to
> install
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> “GeoMOOSE 2.2 for MS4W”?
>>>>>>>> Will I be able to see any basemaps?
>>>>>>>> I suppose if I want ot see any basemaps I might just install
> the
>>>>> “GeoMOOSE
>>>>>>>> 2.2 for MS4W - Web Mercator Demo”?? Are there any downsides
> to
>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> installing the demo? Isn't web mercator a standard anyway?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks a lot
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> nitin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Dan Little
>>> <danlittle at yahoo.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Yeah, referring to the .info website is not a good idea
>>> anymore.
>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>> will probably expire at the end of this year.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    The old .info site only refers to 1.6 stuff and that is
> long
>>>>> out of
>>>>>>>>> anything resembling support.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> *From:* Bob Basques <Bob.Basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us>
>>>>>>>>> *To:* Nitin Gadia <nittyjee at gmail.com>;
>>>>>>>>> geomoose-users at lists.sourceforge.net
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 3, 2011 4:37 PM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Geomoose-users] how to install geomoose?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    Nitin,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Start here for a windows install:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
> http://www.geomoose.info/moose1/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Ite
>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> mid=30
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   other OSs are here as well:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
> http://www.geomoose.info/moose1/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sect
>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ionid=4&id=13&Itemid=30
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   bobb
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> Nitin Gadia <nittyjee at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would like to install a server, and install geomoose on it.
>>>>>>>>> How do I do this??
>>>>>>>>> I'm very new to doing this, so please bear with me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Nitin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
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