[Geomoose-users] how to install geomoose?

Eli Adam EAdam at co.lincoln.or.us
Fri Aug 5 14:41:17 EDT 2011 

Nitin,
     
      You will get something very similar to this,
http://geomoose.org/demo/geomoose2/geomoose.html 

Eli

>>> On 8/5/2011 at 11:13 AM, in message
<CAM3HAhQ7emOzhLp0863d+iuAG7wUmnUJxy2ZcmKQ=REPdwK1RQ at mail.gmail.com>,
Nitin
Gadia <nittyjee at gmail.com> wrote:
> If I install the "GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W", what will I get on the
> screen? Would it be the same blank stuff without the tools or any
> basemaps?
> 
> nitin
> 
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Eli Adam <EAdam at co.lincoln.or.us>
wrote:
>> Nitin,
>>
>>> I went to
>>> http://localhost/geomoose2/geomoose.html 
>>>
>>> and it worked...
>>>
>>> but I'm not getting the layers or the tools. Are those separate
>> adds?
>>
>> The tools and layers should not be a separate add.  The web
mercator
>> demo is perhaps in need of a little attention to work as intended.
>>
>>> I thought that the "GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W - Web Mercator Demo"
>>> would have the layers and tools already shown, like they are here
>>> (without the edits):
>>>
>>
http://geomoose.org/demo/geomoose2-webmercator/geomoose.htmlhttp://geomooseo

>>
>>> rg/demo/geomoose2-webmercator/geomoose.html
>>>
>>> I've attached a screenshot to show what my screen is like.
>>
>> I got similar results as you.
>>
>>>
>>> Should I still install "GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W" as you recommended?
>>
>> I think that is a good idea.  You will have to decide for yourself.
>>
>>>
>>> I would want to use the mercator demo if I can I think... I
probably
>>> want to be able to use the standard stuff right outside of the
>> box...
>>
>> Once you are a little familiar with the working demo, then perhaps
it
>> will be easier to look at the web mercator demo and make a few
tweaks to
>> make it work for you.  Perhaps search the email list about the web
>> mercator demo, someone else may have already hit this and the fix is
on
>> the list.
>>
>>>
>>> After this is all done, I'll update the wiki :)
>>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Eli
>>
>>>
>>> thanks a lot
>>> nitin
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Eli Adam <EAdam at co.lincoln.or.us>
>> wrote:
>>>> Nitin,
>>>>
>>>>> I did get MS4W working, but not Geomoose at
>>>> http://localhost/geomoose/ 
>>>>
>>>> Looks like gradual progress.
>>>> Does MS4W working means that you go to localhost and get the MS4W
>> info
>>>> and details page?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's what I did, in order:
>>>>>
>>>>> (1) Downloaded "ms4w_2.3.1.zip" from here:
>>>>> http://dl.maptools.org/dl/ms4w/ 
>>>>>
>>>>> (2) Already downloaded "GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W - Web Mercator
Demo"
>>>> from here:
>>>>> http://geomoose.org/info/download.html 
>>>>>
>>>>> (3) I transferred both of the *.zip files above to C:\
>>>>>
>>>>> (4) I unzipped each of them with winrar, and files with the same
>>>> names
>>>>> as above were created as following:
>>>>> C:\GeoMOOSE-mercdemo-2.4-MS4W
>>>>> C:\ms4w_2.3.1
>>>>
>>>> This unzipping step is where things seem to have gone wrong.
>> winrar
>>>> apparently defaults to creating a new folder and not merging
>> things.
>>>> Try the unzipping step again with a different program (like the
>> default
>>>> windows utility) or changing settings on winrar.  When you unzip
>> both
>>>> those folders you should get C:\ms4w\(more here) and then the
>> geomoose
>>>> contents should get placed inside those folders like
>>>> C:\ms4w\apps\geomoose2\
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The files were separate.
>>>>>
>>>>> (5) I went to:
>>>>> C:\ms4w_2.3.1\ms4w\apache-install.bat
>>>>>
>>>>> And double-clicked.
>>>>>
>>>>> (6) I restarted the computer
>>>>>
>>>>> (7) I checked http://localhost/ 
>>>>>
>>>>> And I saw Mapserver
>>>>>
>>>>> (8) Since, the following file was separate:
>>>>> C:\GeoMOOSE-mercdemo-2.4-MS4W
>>>>>
>>>>> I "cut":
>>>>> C:\GeoMOOSE-mercdemo-2.4-MS4W\ms4w
>>>>>
>>>>> and "pasted" in:
>>>>> C:\
>>>>>
>>>>> and when it asked me to "merge", I clicked "yes"
>>>>>
>>>>> (9) I tried to go to:
>>>>> htt
p://localhost/geomoose/ 
>>>>>
>>>>> but got a "404 not found" message
>>>>>
>>>>> (10) I tried restarting the computer, and I went to:
>>>>> http://localhost/geomoose/ 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This looks like a mistake on my part.  The apache alias seems to
be
>>>> geomoose2 not geomoose.  However, just go to localhost and scroll
to
>> the
>>>> bottom and it should show you how many application you have
>> installed
>>>> along with links to click on.  That will take you to
>>>> http://localhost/geomoose2/geomoose.html (this works partly for
>> me).
>>>>
>>>> I'd recommend the other demo at
>>>> http://geomoose.org/downloads/GeoMOOSE-2.4-MS4W.zip  That is the
>> one
>>>> that I tried when I first started and it seems to be the main
demo
>> and
>>>> work well.
>>>>
>>>> HTH, Eli
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> and it still didn't work
>>>>>
>>>>> (11) I tried to click:
>>>>> C:\ms4w_2.3.1\ms4w\apache-uninstall.bat
>>>>>
>>>>> then clicked
>>>>>
>>>>> C:\ms4w_2.3.1\ms4w\apache-install.bat
>>>>>
>>>>> and then tried again to go to http://localhost/geomoose/ 
>>>>>
>>>>> and it still didn't work.
>>>>>
>>>>> (12) I again tried restarting the computer, and again went to:
>>>>> http://localhost/geomoose/ 
>>>>>
>>>>> and it still didn't work
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've done everything according to the instructions provided me,
>>>>> however when I unzip the files, it is very different from what
the
>>>>> instructions say should happen, as detailed above. Unless you
know
>>>>> what is wrong clearly from what I wrote above, please try and do
>> it
>>>>> yourself according to the instructions I've been provided, and
>> tell
>>>> me
>>>>> if I'm missing something.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Nitin
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Eli Adam
<EAdam at co.lincoln.or.us>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Nitin,
>>>>>>> The directions have some serious problems:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *First of all, the instructions at the wiki appear to be
>> identical
>>>> to
>>>>>> these
>>>>>>> instructions, which are WAY easier on the eyes, along with
>>>>>> screenshots:
>>>>>>> - Wiki:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
http://www.geomoose.org/wiki/index.php/Installation#Windows_Installation_Gui

>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> de
>>>>>>> - Identical better format:
>>>>>> http://www.geomoose.org/docs/install_ms4w.html 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for fixing up the wiki formatting.  Yes, I think that it
>> was
>>>>>> copied from one place to the other.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *It says not to use "MS4W 3.0 beta 10 and GeoMOOSE, we
recommend
>>>> that
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> use MS4W 2.3.1"
>>>>>>> - looking in the history here, it was upgraded from "beta 10"
on
>>>>>> 4/20/10,
>>>>>>> and it is into "version 3.03" as of 7/12/11":
>>>>>>> http://www.maptools.org/ms4w/index.phtml?page=HISTORY.txt 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MS4W 3.0.3 uses MapServer 6.x which GeoMoose is not quite ready
>> for.
>>>>  I
>>>>>> think that Jim is currently updating that.  I would recommend
>> MS4W
>>>>>> 2.3.1.  You can find it at, http://dl.maptools.org/dl/ms4w/ 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *I download the following files:
>>>>>>> - MS4W: http://www.maptools.org/ms4w/ 
>>>>>>> - GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W - Web Mercator Demo:
>>>>>>> http://geomoose.org/info/download.html 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *The files are different from what it explains in the
>> instructions.
>>>> I
>>>>>> ended
>>>>>>> up merging the folders that were in the geomoose folder with
>> what
>>>> was
>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>> MS4W folder, and when I typed in [http://localhost/] nothing
>>>> showed
>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both of these zip files are designed to be extracted at the
root
>> of
>>>> C:
>>>>>> (MS4W should be done first)  That will put a geomoose folder
into
>>>>>> C:\ms4w\apps\  It will also probably put a
>> httpd_geomoose_m24w.conf
>>>> in
>>>>>> C:\ms4w\httpd.d\ which sets up an Apache alias like this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias /geomoose/ "/ms4w/apps/geomoose/htdocs/"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GeoMoose will be found at http://localhost/geomoos
e/ (or
whatever
>>>> your
>>>>>> .conf file sets up).  However, according to the
>> README_INSTALL.txt
>>>> at
>>>>>> C:\ms4w\, you should have gotten the main ms4w page at
localhost.
>>>> Try
>>>>>> making sure that you have gone through all the proper steps to
>>>> install
>>>>>> ms4w.  The read me covers a lot of things, like have the MS
>>>>>> redistributables if needed, etc.  Specific errors and details
can
>>>> be
>>>>>> helpful for remote troubleshooting.  So does going to localhost
>> give
>>>> an
>>>>>> error?  Is there anything in the apache logs?  In general, MS4W
>> is
>>>> set
>>>>>> up to extract .zip files at the root of the drive and have
>>>> everything
>>>>>> working.  Searching the ms4w mailing list
>>>>>> http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/ms4w-users-f4995553.html

>> may
>>>>>> help with particular errors or operating system details.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best Regards, Eli
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do I need to do??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nitin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Bob Basques
>>>>>>> <Bob.Basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Ok, sorry about that I confused GM1.6 with GM2.6, for some
>>>> reason
>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> looked the same to me.  Oops.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I have installed GeoMoose 2.4 on a Windows 7 machine
>>>> successfully
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> OSGEO4W (similar to MS4W, but with a lot more stuff)  MS4W is
>>>> also
>>>>>> supported
>>>>>>>> by the GeoMoose community, and is the preferred install
method
>>>> for
>>>>>> Windows,
>>>>>>>>  while I had to configure things manually for the OSGEO4W
>> version
>>>> of
>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>>>  I would stay away from OSGEO4W to begin with and stick with
>> MS4W
>>>> in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> near term.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  bobb
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>> Nitin Gadia <nittyjee at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ... looks like i didn't reply-all before either...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Earlier I asked Bob Basques whether I need a Windows Server
>>>> edition
>>>>>>>> installed, or I can just use what I have (windows 7
ultimate).
>>>>>>>> I suppose that Bob was implying that I can just install it
with
>>>> what
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> have.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>> nitin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Nitin Gadia
>>>> <nittyjee at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  oops, i didn't reply-all
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Those instructions look easy enough.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll try to do it today...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> in the meantime, what will I have if I am just going to
>> install
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> “GeoMOOSE 2.2 for MS4W”?
>>>>>>>>> Will I be able to see any basemaps?
>>>>>>>>> I suppose if I want ot see any basemaps I might just install
>> the
>>>>>> “GeoMOOSE
>>>>>>>>> 2.2 for MS4W - Web Mercator Demo”?? Are there any
downsides
>> to
>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>> installing the demo? Isn't web mercator a standard anyway?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks a lot
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> nitin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Dan Little
>>>> <danlittle at yahoo.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   Yeah, referring to the .info website is not a good idea
>>>> anymore.
>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>> will probably expire at the end of this year.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    The old .info site only refers to 1.6 stuff and that is
>> long
>>>>>> out of
>>>>>>>>>> anything resembling support.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Bob Basques <Bob.Basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us>
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Nitin Gadia <nittyjee at gmail.com>;
>>>>>>>>>> geomoose-users at lists.sourceforge.net 
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 3, 2011 4:37 PM
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Geomoose-users] how to install geomoose?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    Nitin,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   Start here for a windows install:

>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> 
>
http://www.geomoose.info/moose1/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Ite

> 
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> mid=30
>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   other OSs are here as well:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> 
>
http://www.geomoose.info/moose1/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sect

> 
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ionid=4&id=13&Itemid=30
>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   bobb
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Nitin Gadia <nittyjee at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I would like to install a server, and install geomoose on
it.
>>>>>>>>>> How do I do this??
>>>>>>>>>> I'm very new to doing this, so please bear with me.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Nitin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
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