[Geomoose-users] how to install geomoose?

Eli Adam EAdam at co.lincoln.or.us
Fri Aug 5 16:19:24 EDT 2011 

Nitin,

> I installed "GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W"
> and when I went to
> http://localhost/geomoose2/geomoose.html 

Is this the address you get sent to from following the link at the
bottom of the main ms4w page found at http://localhost/ ?  Try using the
link at the bottom of the page of listed running applications.

HTH, Eli

> 
> I got the same thing as the screenshot i provided
> 
> nitin
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Eli Adam <EAdam at co.lincoln.or.us>
wrote:
>> Nitin,
>>
>>      You will get something very similar to this,
>> http://geomoose.org/demo/geomoose2/geomoose.html 
>>
>> Eli
>>
>>>>> On 8/5/2011 at 11:13 AM, in message
>>
<CAM3HAhQ7emOzhLp0863d+iuAG7wUmnUJxy2ZcmKQ=REPdwK1RQ at mail.gmail.com>,
>> Nitin
>> Gadia <nittyjee at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> If I install the "GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W", what will I get on the
>>> screen? Would it be the same blank stuff without the tools or any
>>> basemaps?
>>>
>>> nitin
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Eli Adam <EAdam at co.lincoln.or.us>
>> wrote:
>>>> Nitin,
>>>>
>>>>> I went to
>>>>> http://localhost/geomoose2/geomoose.html 
>>>>>
>>>>> and it worked...
>>>>>
>>>>> but I'm not getting the layers or the tools. Are those separate
>>>> adds?
>>>>
>>>> The tools and layers should not be a separate add.  The web
>> mercator
>>>> demo is perhaps in need of a little attention to work as
intended.
>>>>
>>>>> I thought that the "GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W - Web Mercator Demo"
>>>>> would have the layers and tools already shown, like they are
here
>>>>> (without the edits):
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
http://geomoose.org/demo/geomoose2-webmercator/geomoose.htmlhttp://geomooseo

>>
>>>>
>>>>> rg/demo/geomoose2-webmercator/geomoose.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I've attached a screenshot to show what my screen is like.
>>>>
>>>> I got similar results as you.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Should I still install "GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W" as you
recommended?
>>>>
>>>> I think that is a good idea.  You will have to decide for
yourself.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would want to use the mercator demo if I can I think... I
>> probably
>>>>> want to be able to use the standard stuff right outside of the
>>>> box...
>>>>
>>>> Once you are a little familiar with the working demo, then
perhaps
>> it
>>>> will be easier to look at the web mercator demo and make a few
>> tweaks to
>>>> make it work for you.  Perhaps search the email list about the
web
>>>> mercator demo, someone else may have already hit this and the fix
is
>> on
>>>> the list.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> After this is all done, I'll update the wiki :)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Eli
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks a lot
>>>>> nitin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Eli Adam
<EAdam at co.lincoln.or.us>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Nitin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did get MS4W working, but not Geomoose at
>>>>>> http://localhost/geomoose/ 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks like gradual progress.
>>>>>> Does MS4W working means that you go to localhost and get the
MS4W
>>>> info
>>>>>> and details page?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's what I did, in order:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (1) Downloaded "ms4w_2.3.1.zip" from here:
>>>>>>> http://dl.maptools.org/dl/ms4w/ 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (2) Already downloaded "GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W - Web Mercator
>> Demo"
>>>>>> from here:
>>>>>>> http://geomoose.org/info/download.html 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (3) I transferred both of the *.zip files above to C:\
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (4) I unzipped each of them with winrar, and files with the
same
>>>>>> names
>>>>>>> as above were created as following:
>>>>>>> C:\GeoMOOSE-mercdemo-2.4-MS4W
>>>>>>> C:\ms4w_2.3.1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This unzipping step is where things seem to have gone wrong.
>>>> winrar
>>>>>> apparently defaults to creating a new folder and not merging
>>>> things.
>>>>>> Try the unzipping step again with a different program (like the
>>>> default
>>>>>> windows utility) or changing settings on winrar.  When you
unzip
>>>> both
>>>>
>> those folders you should get C:\ms4w\(more here) and then the
>>>> geomoose
>>>>>> contents should get placed inside those folders like
>>>>>> C:\ms4w\apps\geomoose2\
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The files were separate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (5) I went to:
>>>>>>> C:\ms4w_2.3.1\ms4w\apache-install.bat
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And double-clicked.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (6) I restarted the computer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (7) I checked http://localhost/ 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And I saw Mapserver
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (8) Since, the following file was separate:
>>>>>>> C:\GeoMOOSE-mercdemo-2.4-MS4W
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I "cut":
>>>>>>> C:\GeoMOOSE-mercdemo-2.4-MS4W\ms4w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and "pasted" in:
>>>>>>> C:\
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and when it asked me to "merge", I clicked "yes"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (9) I tried to go to:
>>>>>>> http://localhost/geomoose/ 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but got a "404 not found" message
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (10) I tried restarting the computer, and I went to:
>>>>>>> http://localhost/geomoose/ 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This looks like a mistake on my part.  The apache alias seems
to
>> be
>>>>>> geomoose2 not geomoose.  However, just go to localhost and
scroll
>> to
>>>> the
>>>>>> bottom and it should show you how many application you have
>>>> installed
>>>>>> along with links to click on.  That will take you to
>>>>>> http://localhost/geomoose2/geomoose.html (this works partly for
>>>> me).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd recommend the other demo at
>>>>>> http://geomoose.org/downloads/GeoMOOSE-2.4-MS4W.zip  That is
the
>>>> one
>>>>>> that I tried when I first started and it seems to be the main
>> demo
>>>> and
>>>>>> work well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTH, Eli
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and it still didn't work
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (11) I tried to click:
>>>>>>> C:\ms4w_2.3.1\ms4w\apache-uninstall.bat
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> then clicked
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> C:\ms4w_2.3.1\ms4w\apache-install.bat
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and then tried again to go to http://localhost/geomoose/ 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and it still didn't work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (12) I again tried restarting the computer, and again went to:
>>>>>>> http://localhost/geomoose/ 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and it still didn't work
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've done everything according to the instructions provided
me,
>>>>>>> however when I unzip the files, it is very different from what
>> the
>>>>>>> instructions say should happen, as detailed above. Unless you
>> know
>>>>>>> what is wrong clearly from what I wrote above, please try and
do
>>>> it
>>>>>>> yourself according to the instructions I've been provided, and
>>>> tell
>>>>>> me
>>>>>>> if I'm missing something.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Nitin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Eli Adam
>> <EAdam at co.lincoln.or.us>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Nitin,
>>>>>>>>> The directions have some serious problems:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *First of all, the instructions at the wiki appear to be
>>>> identical
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>> instructions, which are WAY easier on the eyes, along with
>>>>>>>> screenshots:
>>>>>>>>> - Wiki:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
http://www.geomoose.org/wiki/index.php/Installation#Windows_Installation_Gui

>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>>>>>> - Identical better format:
>>>>>>>> http://www.geomoose.org/docs/install_ms4w.html 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for fixing up the wiki formatting.  Yes, I think that
it
>>>> was
>>>>>>>> copied from one place to the other.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *It says not to use "MS4W 3.0 beta 10 and GeoMOOSE, we
>> recommend
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> use MS4W 2.3.1"
>>>>>>>>> - looking in the history here, it was upgraded from "beta
10"
>> on
>>>>>>>> 4/20/10,
>>>>>>>>> and it is into "version 3.03" as of 7/12/11":
>>>>>>>>> http://www.maptools.org/ms4w/index.phtml?page=HISTORY.txt 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> MS4W 3.0.3 uses MapServer 6.x which GeoMoose is not quite
ready
>>>> for.
>>>>>>  I
>>>>>>>> think that Jim is currently updating that.  I would recommend
>>>
> MS4W
>>>>>>>> 2.3.1.  You can find it at, http://dl.maptools.org/dl/ms4w/ 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *I download the following files:
>>>>>>>>> - MS4W: http://www.maptools.org/ms4w/ 
>>>>>>>>> - GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W - Web Mercator Demo:
>>>>>>>>> http://geomoose.org/info/download.html 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *The files are different from what it explains in the
>>>> instructions.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> ended
>>>>>>>>> up merging the folders that were in the geomoose folder with
>>>> what
>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>> MS4W folder, and when I typed in [http://localhost/] nothing
>>>>>> showed
>>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Both of these zip files are designed to be extracted at the
>> root
>>>> of
>>>>>> C:
>>>>>>>> (MS4W should be done first)  That will put a geomoose folder
>> into
>>>>>>>> C:\ms4w\apps\  It will also probably put a
>>>> httpd_geomoose_m24w.conf
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> C:\ms4w\httpd.d\ which sets up an Apache alias like this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alias /geomoose/ "/ms4w/apps/geomoose/htdocs/"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> GeoMoose will be found at http://localhost/geomoose/ (or
>> whatever
>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>> .conf file sets up).  However, according to the
>>>> README_INSTALL.txt
>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> C:\ms4w\, you should have gotten the main ms4w page at
>> localhost.
>>>>>> Try
>>>>>>>> making sure that you have gone through all the proper steps
to
>>>>>> install
>>>>>>>> ms4w.  The read me covers a lot of things, like have the MS
>>>>>>>> redistributables if needed, etc.  Specific errors and details
>> can
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> helpful for remote troubleshooting.  So does going to
localhost
>>>> give
>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> error?  Is there anything in the apache logs?  In general,
MS4W
>>>> is
>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>> up to extract .zip files at the root of the drive and have
>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>> working.  Searching the ms4w mailing list
>>>>>>>>
http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/ms4w-users-f4995553.html 
>>
>>>> may
>>>>>>>> help with particular errors or operating system details.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best Regards, Eli
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What do I need to do??
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nitin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Bob Basques
>>>>>>>>> <Bob.Basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  All,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Ok, sorry about that I confused GM1.6 with GM2.6, for some
>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> looked the same to me.  Oops.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  I have installed GeoMoose 2.4 on a Windows 7 machine
>>>>>> successfully
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> OSGEO4W (similar to MS4W, but with a lot more stuff)  MS4W
is
>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>> supported
>>>>>>>>>> by the GeoMoose community, and is the preferred install
>> method
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> Windows,
>>>>>>>>>>  while I had to configure things manually for the OSGEO4W
>>>> version
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>>>>>  I would stay away from OSGEO4W to begin with and stick
with
>>>> MS4W
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> near term.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  bobb
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Nitin Gadia <nittyjee at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ... looks like i didn't reply-all before either...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Earlier I asked Bob Basques whether I need a Windows Server
>>>>>> edition
>>>>>>>>>> installed, or I can just use what I have (windows 7
>> ultimate).
>>>>>>>>>> I suppose that Bob was implying that I can just install it
>> with
>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> have.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>> nitin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Nitin Gadia
>>>>>> <nittyjee at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  oops, i didn't reply-all
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Those instructions look easy enough.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to do it today...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> in the meantime, what will I have if I am just going to
>>>> install
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> “
GeoMOOSE 2.2 for MS4W”?
>>>>>>>>>>> Will I be able to see any basemaps?
>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose if I want ot see any basemaps I might just
install
>>>> the
>>>>>>>> “GeoMOOSE
>>>>>>>>>>> 2.2 for MS4W - Web Mercator Demo”?? Are there any
>> downsides
>>>> to
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>> installing the demo? Isn't web mercator a standard anyway?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks a lot
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> nitin
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Dan Little
>>>>>> <danlittle at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   Yeah, referring to the .info website is not a good idea
>>>>>> anymore.
>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>>> will probably expire at the end of this year.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>    The old .info site only refers to 1.6 stuff and that
is
>>>> long
>>>>>>>> out of
>>>>>>>>>>>> anything resembling support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>    ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Bob Basques <Bob.Basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Nitin Gadia <nittyjee at gmail.com>;
>>>>>>>>>>>> geomoose-users at lists.sourceforge.net 
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 3, 2011 4:37 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Geomoose-users] how to install geomoose?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>    Nitin,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   Start here for a windows install:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   *
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> 
>
http://www.geomoose.info/moose1/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Ite

> 
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> mid=30
>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   other OSs are here as well:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   *
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> 
>
http://www.geomoose.info/moose1/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sect

> 
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ionid=4&id=13&Itemid=30
>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   bobb
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Nitin Gadia <nittyjee at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to install a server, and install geomoose on
>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> How do I do this??
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm very new to doing this, so please bear with me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nitin
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
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