[GRASS5] Re: PSC: Voting & Chair
rez at touchofmadness.com
Fri Apr 28 22:56:49 EDT 2006
On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 11:15 +0200, Radim Blazek wrote:
> On 4/28/06, Markus Neteler <neteler at itc.it> wrote:
> > >>Regarding Radim's comments - let us try to follow the suggestions
> > >>from Markus and Frank modeled
> > >>after other projects to see whether it works for us, we can always
> > >>change it / modify later
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >I tried to explain that a result of the procedure proposed by Markus and Frank
> > >can depend on question formulation and obviously such procedure
> > >is not democratic.
> > >I am strongly in favour of democratic procedures used in GRASS
> > >decision making.
> > >The argument that other projects prefer less democratic procedures
> > >is not valid for me.
> > >
> > >The attitude 'to see whether it works for us' is wrong in my opinion
> > >because certainly it will work, it simply cannot fail, but the results
> > >can be deformed and some people can be discouraged.
> > >Less democratic procedures always work better but overall
> > >results are worse.
> > >
> > >
> > Radim,
> > mhh, I don't remember that I suggested to implement non-democratic
> > structures (didn't I post a *proposal*?).
> The proposed voting system in my opinion is not kosher and
> I pointed it out. I am talking about the procedure, that is not about
> your person. Sorry if I was not clear enough before.
Are we getting ahead of ourselves? Can we first define who will be on
the PSC and the roles/sub-projects to get an idea of the size and scope
of the PSC? After that, I think it would be easier to resolve the
Have enough people been nominated? Is there anything that warrants
discussion before this happens? I'm not trying to discount anything,
but I believe it would be beneficial to form the "organization" of the
PSC. Not that they would become immediately active, but have a more
accessible representation of the PSC.
And would it be possible to change the subject headers to reflect the
topic of discussion (eg. PSC: Voting)? It sure would make navigating
the various topics much easier...at least for me.
> > The *idea* of having a steering committee is to have an accepted body to
> > take strategic decisions. Certainly this body needs to be established and
> > controlled by the community.
> I support the idea of PSC but with previously expressed objection that
> the decisions should be taken by all contributors and PSC should
> only manage the decision process.
I agree that all contributors should have a vote on the PSC documents
and any changes to the "bylaws"...whether those people are *all*
contributors or only committers is unknown.
It was also mentioned in an earlier email that Markus is the obvious
choice for the PSC chair. Agreed.
Brad Douglas <rez touchofmadness com> KB8UYR
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