R: R: [GRASS-dev] GRASS 6.3.0 to be released

Wed Apr 16 04:36:02 EDT 2008

Hi Moritz,

>It really is not difficult to download and install the
python installers...

yes, I agree.... but: when I think to softwares packaging I always keep in my mind all the experiences *collected* during the years with many users, specially here at my university... specially among teachers and researchers. It's a consolidated fact, here in my country, that not electronic engineers, specially civil and environmental ones, have a *bad relationships* with calculators and softwares in general (except with CAD softwares, supposed that they are easy to install...). Since the main target of GIS software is, I guess, exactly this category of professionals (along with geologists)[1], I believe that they would have difficulties, specially on Windows (where users are used to install only self-contained, full-featured packages), to *understand* exactly what to do; there's the possibility (note, this is only a personal point of view, but based on direct experience with windows users) that they would not consider to use GRASS because it's too difficult to install, thus moving to not-opened GIS platforms.

>The only thing we could consider is to add an option to automatically
download and install the python stuff, but not add it to our installer
directly.

this would be a very good solution, but I still need to understand how to do that in a *clean* and tidy manner, 100% working on both XP and Vista (OT: on xext week I'll probably buy a new PC, with Vista installed, so I'll can test also on Vista).

Marco

[1] you could not believe that, but here at my university teachers don't know/use GIS softwares... this said, it's a main target of my future plans, after the degree on July, to *spread* the opend GIS (that is GRASS) *word* here ;-)

________________________________

Da: Moritz Lennert [mailto:mlennert at club.worldonline.be]
Inviato: mer 16/04/2008 9.29
A: marco.pasetti at alice.it
Cc: 'Martin Landa'; 'Markus Neteler'; 'GRASS developers list'
Oggetto: Re: R: [GRASS-dev] GRASS 6.3.0 to be released

On 15/04/08 22:39, Marco Pasetti wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> It would be good also for me, even if it would better if we release it on
> next week tough (I'm very busy now). BTW, there are few thing to do for me,
> just some improvements for windows installer...
>
> Martin, do you think that we could add the needed python files into the
> 6.3.0 windows package, in order to let users start the pyGUI without the
> need to install python stuffs by themselves?

-1

I don't think we should bloat the installer with everything that people
might need. It really is not difficult to download and install the
python installers...

The only thing we could consider is to add an option to automatically
download and install the python stuff, but not add it to our installer
directly.

Just my two cents...

Moritz

>
> Regards
>
> Marco
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: grass-dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
> [mailto:grass-dev-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] Per conto di Martin Landa
> Inviato: martedì 15 aprile 2008 19.04
> A: Markus Neteler
> Cc: GRASS developers list
> Oggetto: Re: [GRASS-dev] GRASS 6.3.0 to be released
>
> 2008/4/15, Markus Neteler <neteler at osgeo.org>:
>>  After 6 release candidates, even tested on MS-Windows,  I don't see
>> any real blockers any more. I suggest to get out  6.3.0 this week and
>> proceed with change to 6.4.release_branch/7.0.svn.
>>
>>  We can have 6.3.1 if needed.
>>
>>  Sounds ok?
>
> +1
>
> Martin
>
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