[GRASS-dev] [GRASS-PSC] Min. req. of programming language standard support, GRASS GIS 8

Veronica Andreo veroandreo at gmail.com
Mon Mar 22 12:02:28 PDT 2021


Hi everybody,

Ok, so we can now vote the C/C++ RFC, and then open a new thread + RFC
regarding support for python versions.

I'll send the voting motion later today or tomorrow.

Cheers,
Vero

El lun, 22 mar 2021 a las 11:18, Nicklas Larsson (<n_larsson at yahoo.com>)
escribió:

> Forgot to add: Python support changes with GRASS minor versions adds a bit
> of complication with add-ons, which are bound to major version. I don't
> know what would be the better solution for this.
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> On Monday, 22 March 2021, 10:24:06 CET, Nicklas Larsson via grass-psc <
> grass-psc at lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
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> Hi,
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> Although I didn't see the need to remove Python from RFC 7 (as it was
> originally formulated), there is also some logic to treat Python as a whole
> in a separate RFC. I don't have strong opinion on either way, therefore I
> lifted out Python from the draft, which now only deals with C and C++.
> Hopefully it may now be ready for vote :).
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> Regarding Python: I believe version support should be linked to Python
> end-of-life circle and GRASS minor version.
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> Best,
> Nicklas
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> On Sunday, 21 March 2021, 09:04:24 CET, Markus Neteler <neteler at osgeo.org>
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> Hi,
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> On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 8:30 PM Veronica Andreo <veroandreo at gmail.com>
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> > Hi everyone
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> > Thanks for all the feedback.
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> > In practical terms then, shall we:
> > - remove all python references from the Language Standards draft RFC [0]
> and vote only for C/C++, while creating a separate RFC for the minimum
> python version?
> > - add a formula that sets on which pace the minimum supported python
> version will change to the Language Standards draft RFC [0] and vote for
> everything altogether?
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> For Python support, it is worth looking at the GDAL RFC 77 which
> includes useful tables and links:
> - https://gdal.org/development/rfc/rfc77_drop_python2_support.html
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> esp.:
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> https://endoflife.date/python#:~:text=The%20support%20for%20Python%202.7,dropping%20support%20for%20Python%202.7
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> Useful is also
> - https://repology.org/project/python/versions
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> With respect to the pace of periodic review and updating of the
> language standards support I believe that we need that at the pace of
> sub-major releases (e.g., 7.8 -> 7.9). Just look back at the major
> releases (https://grass.osgeo.org/about/history/releases/) we observe
> quite some time span:
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> - (2021) GRASS GIS 8.0.0
> - 2015 GRASS GIS 7.0.0
> - 2005 GRASS GIS 6.0.0
> - 2002 GRASS GIS 5.0.0
> - 1991 GRASS 4.0
> - 1988 GRASS 3.0
> - 1987 GRASS 2.0
> - 1984 GRASS 1.0
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> Hence sub-major releases might be the way to go.
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> Markus
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> > [0] https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/RFC/7_LanguageStandardsSupport
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