[GRASS-PSC] SVN write access request

Michael Barton michael.barton at asu.edu
Tue Dec 9 13:29:37 EST 2008


I understand Hamish's point, but also agree with Dylan on the  
importance of these modules.

Michael
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On Dec 9, 2008, at 9:34 AM, Dylan Beaudette wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:29 AM, Hamish <hamish_b at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Colin Nielsen wrote:
>>> I am writing to request write access to the SVN so I can make some
>>> updates to the r.cost, r.walk and r.drain modules.
>>> I have read, and accept, the terms of the "Legal aspects of code
>>> contributions (RFC2)", and have created an osgeo_id (cnielsen).
>>>
>>> Thanks and let me know if there is any more information you
>>> require.
>>
>>
>> Hi Colin,
>>
>> it is rather poorly explained in the trac wiki (well, ok, it's  
>> wrong):
>> the typical process for new developers is that for some mentorship
>> period they send patches to the devel list or trac system for other  
>> old
>> timers to review and commit for them. full svn access generally  
>> happens
>> when the mentor has seen enough patches that they trust the  
>> person's code,
>> and get bored reviewing all their patches. at that point the mentor
>> nominates the new dev, and the vote happens.
>>
>> this is all rather murky common-law stuff, we've never got around to
>> working on the second draft of RFC3 and preparing it for  
>> ratification.
>> None the less, this is a PSC vote, and from my reading of the current
>> RFC3 & expectations, votes are supposed to be called by a member of  
>> the
>> PSC (ie your dev mentor) not by the new dev. the dev/trac wiki should
>> say that, but it doesn't. oops
>>
>>
>> I don't doubt that you have a better understanding of the inner  
>> workings
>> of r.drain, r.cost, and r.walk than maybe anyone else here, and that
>> you've been quietly working away on them for months, but the fact  
>> of the
>> matter is that I've never seen a proper patch, so have nothing to  
>> go on
>> to make a judgment right now. sorry.
>>
>> for what it's worth, you don't have to be god's gift to  
>> programming; as
>> far as I can tell most of us here are scientists come self-taught
>> programmers when we needed some tool. luckily there are some real
>> programmers around to keep us in line ;)
>>
>>
>> what I'd suggest is that we stall this vote and apologize for any  
>> mis-
>> understandings, you post your improvements to the bug/wish trac  
>> system,
>> get them reviewed & committed, etc etc. and then sooner or later we  
>> will
>> trust your code and get sick of committing things for you and whoever
>> does most of that committing will make some noises to pick up this  
>> vote
>> where we left off.
>>
>>
>> todo for the rest of us: fix the wiki text and finish rfc3.
>>
>>
>> cheers & I look forward to trying out your contributions*,
>> Hamish
>
> As I am less involved with development, I tend to defer to Hamish's
> judgement on this matter. As a long-time user of r.cost / r.walk /
> r.drain I am excited about new developments in those modules, and
> would like to see Colin eventually contribute his code- post testing.
> I would be happy to assist with testing these modules. Thanks for the
> hard work.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dylan
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> [*] did you see our (ie Ryan's) r.walk penguin nest site selection  
>> project?
>> r.drain did a pretty good job of replicating their well worn paths  
>> up the
>> beach and into the cliffs. neat confirmation. there was also a nice
>> viewshed coupling aspect to it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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