[GRASS-user] Can I just get rid of Wish?

Fri Jun 12 14:56:06 EDT 2009

Thanks much for the additional information. Where I've run into the  
multiple python issue the most is in building from source. But I've  
also occasionally had people with issues when they attempted to run a  
binary. Bundling wxPython should help to solve that. Same with numpy.

Any instructions on how to bundle wxPython in a binary app? I'd be  
happy to give it a go. Ultimately, we should probably also bundle a  
Python runtime to make a self-contained package.

Once my MacBook is fixed next week maybe I can finally start back to  
fixing bugs and even adding new modules to GRASS 7.

Michael
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On Jun 12, 2009, at 11:50 AM, William Kyngesburye wrote:

> welcome back...
>
> On Jun 12, 2009, at 12:33 PM, Michael Barton wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've been out of the country and had a problem with my laptop. So I
>> haven't been able to answer sooner.
>>
>> I want to add to William's information a bit of my own experience
>> with this.
>>
>> If you are running Leopard AKA as OS X 10.5.x (and it seems like you
>> are), I strongly recommend that you uninstall any other Python
>> except the one that comes with Leopard. This also means looking at
>> your .profile and .bashrc files to get rid of any lines about
>> PYTHONPATH. Then deinstall and reinstall wxPython so that it links
>> to the native Mac Python installation.
>>
> I now bundle wxPython in my binary distribution, to avoid confusion if
> a user has installed another version.  Also Apple's version is a bit
> old now, though it satisfies the minimum version GRASS needs.  For
> those building GRASS from source, an up-to-date version of wxPython
> can be installed and used with the system Python.
>
> Another thing I just added in RC5 and SVN (for the OSX app build) is
> the ability to attempt to use a version of Python that wxPython is
> built for.  This only works for when wxPython in bundled in the app,
> and is hardwired (requires editing grass.sh.in in the macosx app
> source).  This helps for GRASS distributions (like mine) where a user
> might have other Python versions installed that may cause trouble.
>
>> We have built the GUI in Python 2.5. I can't vouch for Python 2.6
>> working with everything.
>>
>> This OUGHT to solve a lot of your Python and wxPython issues.
>>
>> Also, you cannot get rid of wish, at least not if you want to run
>> NVIZ. It still requires TclTk. It is now built with the aqua
>> version, however. So you need TclTk aqua. You can download and
>> install binaries from ActiveStates.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure that native Python comes with numpy. This is needed
>> for profiling and some other graphing. If you don't have numpy,
>> you'll need to install it. You can do so by first installing
>> "setuptools-0.6c9-py2.5.egg" from the Python packages page (http://pypi.python.org/pypi
>> ). Follow the instructions to install it (you run the downloaded
>> package as a script). Then all you have to do is type from the
>> command line:
>>
>> install numpy
>>
>> OR
>>
>> sudo install numpy
>
> I also now include an up-to-date version of numpy in my GDAL framework
> (it's used there also).  The system version is a very old 1.0.1, and
> GRASS requirements say at least 1.0.4.
>
>> You should not longer need to install PyOpenGL, but can do so if
>> needed using install pyopengl.
>>
>> Regards
>> Michael
>>
>> On Jun 9, 2009, at 7:05 PM, grass-user-request at lists.osgeo.org wrote:
>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 15:19:33 -0500
>>> From: William Kyngesburye <woklist at kyngchaos.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [GRASS-user] Can I just get rid of Wish?
>>> To: Michael Margolis <mmargoli at gettysburg.edu>
>>> Cc: grass-user at lists.osgeo.org
>>> Message-ID: <348E04D0-7511-4BFB-842F-5B507E25D91D at kyngchaos.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2009, at 2:34 PM, Michael Margolis wrote:
>>>
>>>> My OS version is 10.5.7.  I don't know how to tell for sure if I  
>>>> got
>>>> the
>>>> right build, but I think so. I followed the link entitled MacOSX
>>>> from
>>>> http://grass.itc.it/download/index.php, and after installing some
>>>> frameworks
>>>> went on to http://www.kyngchaos.com/software:grass/. I recall going
>>>> over to
>>>> the Apple site to find out whether I was Leopard or Tiger, so I
>>>> probably got
>>>> that right.
>>>>
>>> 10.5.7 is Leopard.  The readmes with the GRASS installers say 10.5
>>> (Leopard) and 10.4 (Tiger), so you should be able to figure it out
>>> (though Mac users tend to not read readmes ;)
>>>
>>>> Just today I installed a new Python 2.6.2, which seemed to make no
>>>> difference.
>>>
>>> I don't know about the compatibility of the GUI with 2.6, one of the
>>> GUI developers could better answer that.  But the wxpython that it
>>> uses has binary components that are compiled for a specific version
>>> of
>>> Python and may not work as expected for another version.  The
>>> wxPython
>>> that I bundle expects Python 2.5.x.  wx is usually in the python  
>>> path
>>> of the python it's good for, but my bundled wx will be seen by any
>>> python.
>>>
>>> Normally GRASS will use the first Python it finds in your shell  
>>> PATH,
>>> which will now be 2.6.2.  you can override this by setting
>>> GRASS_PYTHON in your shell, and to make this work with the OSX app
>>> startup, it needs to be set in your ~/.bash_profile:
>>>
>>> export GRASS_PYTHON=/usr/bin/python
>>>
>>> I should add this to my binaries since they expect a 2.5 version and
>>> many users might have installed 2.6 or even 3.0.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hmmm, what OSX version?  Did you install the GRASS build matching
>>>>> your
>>>>> system version? Which GRASS installer version (ie: is it the  
>>>>> latest
>>>>> rc4-1)?  If OSX Leopard (10.5), did you install Python (it's OK  
>>>>> not
>>>>> to, since the system Python is reasonably recent).
>>>>>
>>>>> I have seen problems getting the GUI to start automatically vs
>>>>> starting it manually with g.gui, though the wxpython GUI seems to
>>>>> work
>>>>> now on startup.
>>>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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