[Incubator] Incubator Application: deegree
Dr. Markus Lupp
lupp at lat-lon.de
Wed Jan 23 21:11:12 EST 2008
Hi Cameron,
yes, I can do so. Can you point me to a place on the OSGeo pages / wiki
where I can put it? The application is here - but I did not find a place
to attach a new document.
Regards,
Markus
Cameron Shorter schrieb:
> Thanks Markus,
> Great write up. Any chance that you could copy this onto the web
> somewhere? Probably your graduation application would be the best place.
>
>
> Dr. Markus Lupp wrote:
>> Hi Cameron,
>>
>> basically there is cooperation potential with all Java-based OSGeo
>> projects. As I see it these are at the moment:
>> 1. GeoTools
>> 2. gvSIG
>> 3. Geonetwork OpenSource
>> 4. Community MapBuilder
>>
>> I will discuss those four projects in the following. Please forgive
>> me if statements about the four projects are not correct at all
>> times, I do not know them in much detail so far.
>>
>> 1. GeoTools
>> ------------
>> deegree and GeoTools share many similarities, they are at the core,
>> Java libraries for geospatial applications with a focus on OGC
>> standards. There are many opportunities for collaboration and there
>> were several attempts to do so but I also have to say that so far all
>> of these attempts were not successfull. At the first look the
>> projects are so similar that someone wonders why collaboration here
>> is so hard. IMHO there are three main reasons:
>> a) Some requirements are different. A good example is the need of
>> deegree for a complex feature model, a requirement that GeoTools
>> developed much later and with much less priority.
>> b) The development process seems to be different: deegree is
>> developed for projects with tight deadlines and is in this way a very
>> "commercial" FOSS project. Quite often, decisions have to be made
>> fast and this leads sometime to less discussion via the list as there
>> is on GeoTools lists.
>> c) The "not invented here" effect and other usual problems in
>> cooperation. ;-)
>> Nonetheless I do not want to give up on this. Perhaps the fact that
>> deegree wants to join OSGeo opens new opportunities for cooperation
>> between the projects again. Perhaps some kind of "liasaon officer"
>> between the to projects would help here.
>>
>> 2. gvSIG
>> Although deegree is a library, there also is by now a desktop GIS
>> (with similarities to gvSIG) under development. On a technical level
>> there is collaboration potential, the main problem here is that gvSIG
>> is published under GPL, while deegree under LGPL. This is the main
>> reason, why in the first place deegree started development of a
>> desktop component (the companies developing deegree have customers
>> who do not want to use a GPL-based desktop GIS program). Otherwise we
>> would have used OpenJUMP or gvSIG. On a technical level, here again
>> the problem is the complex feature model. There already were meetings
>> between people from gvSIG and deegree and support for complex
>> features seemed to be not on the top list of priority for gvSIG.
>> In regard to the license problem, the cooperation here could be
>> "one-way", of GOS uses source code from deegree we would not run into
>> license problems.
>>
>> 3. Geonetwork Open Source (GOS)
>> deeegre encompasses a metadata/catalogue component similar to GOS. On
>> a technical level there is good potential for cooperation, the
>> problem here is that GOS uses GPL while deegree LGPL.
>> Here again, "one-way cooperation" (GOS uses deegree) could work.
>>
>> 4. Community MapBuilder (CMB)
>> From the impression that I by now have, CMB shares a number of
>> similarities with deegree iGeoPortal, they are both web-based clients
>> for OGC web services. As CMB is published under LGPL there would also
>> be no licensing problems. It might turn out, that the respective
>> software architectures are too different for close cooperation, but
>> this will only be know if there is a more thorough analysis from
>> bothe sides.
>>
>>
>> So, regarding the OSGeo Java tribe, I would say the most cooperation
>> potential exists with GeoTools and CMB as they share the same license
>> with deegree.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Markus
>>
>>
>> Cameron Shorter schrieb:
>>> Sorry for the slow response, usual excuses.
>>>
>>> Markus,
>>> It is great to hear that a well established project like deegree is
>>> engaging OSGeo. I think deegree has a lot to offer the community and
>>> in particular I think it will benefit all if we see further
>>> collaboration between deegree and other OSGeo projects - something
>>> which I think has been one of the under-reported benefits of OSGeo.
>>>
>>> One of my standard questions for new projects is to discuss similar
>>> (OSGeo) projects and what opportunities there are for collaboration,
>>> or if not what are the barriers.
>>>
>>> The more collaboration, the more attractive the project is as a
>>> graduation candidate.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> As I seem to bring up this question fairly regularly, maybe it
>>> should be included in the OSGeo Application page.
>>>
>>> Frank Warmerdam wrote:
>>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>> I'm pleased to announce that the deegree project has applied for
>>>> OSGeo incubation. The application form can be downloaded (in pdf)
>>>> from:
>>>>
>>>> http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/attachment/ticket/185/deegree_osgeo_questionnaire.pdf?format=raw
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> deegree is a Java framework including implementations of many OGC
>>>> and ISO
>>>> standard geo interfaces. The application was submitted by Dr.
>>>> Markus Lupp
>>>> and I will ask him to join the incubation list if he hasn't already.
>>>>
>>>> Currently we have ten projects in incubation, so assuming we don't
>>>> want to
>>>> raise our self imposed limit I don't anticipate bringing another
>>>> project
>>>> into incubation immediately. However, I am hopeful that at as many
>>>> as two
>>>> of our current projects will be completing incubation soon at which
>>>> point we
>>>> will be in a position to select new projects.
>>>>
>>>> The current application pending are:
>>>>
>>>> http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&component=Incubator&keywords=%7Eapplication&order=priority
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> GeoMOOSE
>>>> JVNMobileGIS
>>>> ORCHESTRA
>>>> degree
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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