[Incubator] OSSIM Incubation Status

Daniel Morissette dmorissette at mapgears.com
Thu Apr 9 17:21:37 EDT 2009

Thanks for addressing my questions Mark. I'm happy with the answers and 
have nothing to add.


Mark Lucas wrote:
> On Apr 3, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Daniel Morissette wrote:
>> Frank Warmerdam wrote:
>>> At this point I am pretty satisfied with the condition of the OSSIM 
>>> code.
>>> Are there any issues that folks would like to see addressed before I
>>> make a motion for OSSIM to graduate?  Information on incubation status
>>> and provenance review are available at:
>>>  http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSSIM_incubation_status
>>>  http://trac.osgeo.org/ossim/wiki/ossimprovenance
>> I read in the incubation status page and in the Openness evaluation 
>> page at http://trac.osgeo.org/ossim/wiki/ossimopenness that there are 
>> 6 PSC members, but the OSSIM Governance page only lists four:
>> http://trac.osgeo.org/ossim/wiki/ossimgovernance. Since this "OSSIM 
>> Governance page" is expected to be the main reference about the PSC it 
>> should be updated now and kept up to date in the future.
> Updated, there are currently 4 active PSC members.
>> My main comment overall is that I find that the way the PSC operates 
>> with face to face meetings is a bit unusual and can be a barrier to 
>> new contributors following/joining the project. As an outsider, 
>> reading a summary of the meeting is not the same as being able to 
>> follow the whole discussion and decision process as it evolves. OTOH 
>> the developers list for OSSIM seems quite active so perhaps that's not 
>> that big a deal and we need to be open to new ways to do things.
> It is human nature, three of us work under the same roof at the current 
> time, Dave Burken works 20 minutes away. We do our best to force 
> communications through the internet, but it is human nature to just talk 
> things over when you are working in close proximity.  We also support 
> the #ossimplanet chat channel.  Typically there are 10 to 15 subscribers 
> watching the checkins to the baseline.   We have always actively 
> encouraged contributions from members on the list.  This often takes the 
> form of infrequent patches etc.  Occasionally we will have an active 
> contributor that works on a module using the plugin infrastructure.  If 
> the submissions start becoming regular we normally grant svn checkin 
> while they are active.  If there are long periods of inactivity we turn 
> off commit.
> I think the key point is that we desire and encourage contributions and 
> participation.  As in any project, the active contributors will be the 
> ones that control the overall direction of the project.
> OSSIM is fairly active, today was typical with 13 emails posted to the 
> list.  There were 9 checkins to svn today.
> Mark
>> If I remember correctly, similar concerns were raised about MapBender 
>> which had most (all?) of its developers under the same roof, and FDO 
>> for which I was mentor and had its graduation delayed until the PSC 
>> would demonstrate the opennness of its decision process and developers 
>> community.
>> Once again, I don't necessarily see this as a blocker since contrary 
>> to the other cases that I listed above the OSSIM developers list seems 
>> fairly active already. Any opinions on that?
>> Daniel
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