[Incubator] Re: GeoMajas Graduation Recommendation

Pieter De Graef pieter.degraef at geosparc.com
Wed Oct 6 05:20:37 EDT 2010

Op 5/10/2010 23:56, Cameron Shorter schreef:
> Congratulations on getting this far.
> Questions/Suggestions:
> 1. When listing people for the PSC, I suggest putting company 
> affiliations after people's names.
Not a bad idea. I will propose this on our mailing list.
> 2. It seems that the PSC is made up of only 4 people from GeoSparc and 
> 1 from DFC Software Engineering.
> This makes me a little nervous as it implies that the project has not 
> fully matured in the process of attracting external developers.
> At the moment, it seems the project is effectively been driven by 
> GeoSparc (which is a credit to GeoSparc) but is a long term risk to 
> the project due to its dependence on one company.
> I'm interested to understand the level of involvement from DFC 
> Software Engineering (and others?).
> I don't have a quick fix to solve this, as growing a development and 
> PSC community takes years.
> Also, while it makes me nervous, by itself I don't see it as a show 
> stopper.
Indeed. I had hoped to attract more developers at FOSS4G and although 
traffic has gone up considerably it's, as you said, a process that takes 
time. It seems that many have started to look at Geomajas, but before 
they can actually start on a project where they can use it, usually a 
lot of time passes. Also, from most users you never hear a thing. It's 
only when they have used it for several projects that they start getting 
more involved (or at least, that seems to be the case).

The role of Geosparc in this story is really quite simple. It is the 
owner and main supporter behind Geomajas. Geosparc tries to work through 
a network of partners, who in turn use Geomajas to create web GIS 
applications. DFC is such a partner. Geosparc also tries to get it's 
partners as involved as possible, by having them to contribute on the 
trunk as well.
As chairman of the Geomajas project I believe that the PSC will attract 
developers from such partner companies, as it is in their best interest 
to get involved and help steer it. DFC is the first example, but more 
will (and should) follow.

> On 06/10/10 01:23, Pieter De Graef wrote:
>>  Hi all,
>> I would like to thank Paul from the bottom of my heart.
>> He has done a lot for the project and made it possible for Geomajas 
>> to enter incubation and propose for graduation in less then a year. 
>> Without him we would not be where we are now.
>> Also, I would like to invite you all to test Geomajas for yourselves 
>> in order to get a better feeling of what it does and where it stands. 
>> Any and all comments may help to improve upon the project.
>> Thanks.
>> Pieter De Graef
>> Op 5/10/2010 16:10, Paul Spencer schreef:
>>> Hi all,
>>> I would like to recommend to the Incubation Committee that we 
>>> consider GeoMajas for graduation from incubation.  The relevant 
>>> documentation can be found at:
>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GeoMajas_Incubation_Status
>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GeoMajas_Provenance_Review
>>> The GeoMajas community consists of about 9 regular committers and a 
>>> fairly active user community.  The development community seems 
>>> responsive to the users.  The project has recently released version 
>>> 1.7.1 which represents a very complete and professional GIS package 
>>> for the java community.  There is sufficient documentation to allow 
>>> even a non-java guy like myself to get it running.
>>> There were no major issues for GeoMajas during incubation.  Upon 
>>> entering incubation, they already had a suitable PSC structure, 
>>> mature development and user communities and development practices 
>>> consistent with OSGeo principles.  Over past 7 months or so, I have 
>>> been observing the functioning of the PSC via the user and developer 
>>> mailing lists and I believe the PSC functions in a manner consistent 
>>> with other OSGeo projects.
>>> The code provenance review was completely moderately quickly due to 
>>> existing code documentation practices.  Outstanding issues of 
>>> significance have been addressed.
>>> I believe that GeoMajas will make a great addition to the OSGeo 
>>> stack and will represent the OSGeo community well.
>>> I invite folks to provide feedback, comments and discussion for the 
>>> next week or two, at which time we will proceed with a formal motion.
>>> Cheers
>>> Paul
>>> __________________________________________
>>>     Paul Spencer
>>>     Chief Technology Officer
>>>     DM Solutions Group Inc
>>>     http://research.dmsolutions.ca/

Pieter De Graef

Community Manager
GeoSparc nv.

Chairman of the Geomajas project

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