[Incubator] Rasdaman Incubation Status [was: FW: [rasdaman-users] Updates toward OSGeo graduation] [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Peter Baumann]

thanks for your views, Cameron!
Indeed, the testing (and QC in general) is something that is consuming 
significant resources. Well, every project has to go through that, right?

cheers,
Peter


On 02/11/2013 11:58 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> I've had some experience with rasdaman through their involvement with OSGeo-Live.
>
> In rasdaman's favour, I've found is that the rasdaman community have been 
> quick to respond to our comments and update issues that we find during the 
> packaging project.
>
> I've heard that rasdaman has been putting continuous integration in place to 
> help with QA.
> I think that this is an excellent step forward, as I think Quality Assurance 
> has been one of rasdaman's weak points to date. Over the last few OSGeo-Live 
> releases we have picked up more issues with rasdaman that we have with 
> comparable projects.
>
> I don't think rasdaman need focus on where their infrastructure is hosted 
> (osgeo or otherwise) but instead focus their energy on putting the boring 
> testing processes in place. Because good Quality Control leads to reliability, 
> and in turn, customer confidence.
>
> On 11/02/13 17:34, Peter Baumann wrote:
>> Hi again,
>>
>> doing a quick check I just compared rasdaman to degree and found us not very 
>> different, in fact:
>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Deegree_Incubation_Status
>> Similarly, with MapServer, GeoTools, PostGIS, GDAL, ...
>> Time to give my deep kudos to all in the rasdaman project who have 
>> contributed to OSGeo readiness!
>>
>> cheers,
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> On 02/11/2013 12:19 AM, Bruce Bannerman wrote:
>>> Re: [Incubator] Rasdaman Incubation Status [was: FW: [rasdaman-users] 
>>> Updates toward OSGeo graduation] [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Jody,
>>>
>>> I think that the remaining issues are more related to community process 
>>> development.
>>>
>>> We still haven't made the transition to a truly open community:
>>>
>>>   * Most activity and decision making still appears to be centered around
>>>     Jakobs Uni / Rasdaman.com. I haven't seen much discussion on the lists
>>>     around a PSC, apart from my and Alan Beccati's comments.
>>>   * I do know from discussions with Peter Baumann that there are a number of
>>>     users and potentially developers within Europe, particularly Germany who
>>>     are hesitant to discuss issues openly in English, but do converse
>>>     amongst themselves. So we have a cultural / language issue here as well,
>>>     with potentially hidden processes that the rest of the community does
>>>     not see.
>>>   * Though there is still quite a lot of developer contribution coming from
>>>     other areas as well.
>>>   * Rasdaman have recently opened up access to their wiki hosted at Jakobs
>>>     Uni after a request for access by myself to the mailing list.
>>>   * I haven't raised it yet with the community, though I do wonder how much
>>>     of a deterrent having the wiki, trac etc hosted at Jakobs is to more
>>>     open development of the Rasdaman Community. It does leave the perception
>>>     of being a research oriented project.
>>>   * Perhaps this infrastructure would be better hosted within the OSGeo
>>>     umbrella, however this would probably be a big disruption to the
>>>     community at this stage of their development. Thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>> So in answer to your question, I think that we will need some time for 
>>> processes and the community to come together into a more cohesive and open 
>>> environment.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/02/13 9:54 AM, "Jody Garnett" <jody.garnett at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>      Thanks for the status update Bruce - moving to a continuous build is a
>>>     huge load off the developers.
>>>     Is there anything we can do to help Rasdaman along? Or is it just case
>>>     of finding the time ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> -- 
>> Dr. Peter Baumann
>>   - Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen
>>     www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann
>>     mail:p.baumann at jacobs-university.de
>>     tel: +49-421-200-3178, fax: +49-421-200-493178
>>   - Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793)
>>     www.rasdaman.com, mail:baumann at rasdaman.com
>>     tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax: 0800-rasdafax, mobile: +49-173-5837882
>> "Si forte in alienas manus oberraverit hec peregrina epistola incertis ventis dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur ut ei reddatur cui soli destinata, nec preripiat quisquam non sibi parata." (mail disclaimer, AD 1083)
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-- 
Dr. Peter Baumann
  - Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen
    www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann
    mail: p.baumann at jacobs-university.de
    tel: +49-421-200-3178, fax: +49-421-200-493178
  - Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793)
    www.rasdaman.com, mail: baumann at rasdaman.com
    tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax: 0800-rasdafax, mobile: +49-173-5837882
"Si forte in alienas manus oberraverit hec peregrina epistola incertis ventis dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur ut ei reddatur cui soli destinata, nec preripiat quisquam non sibi parata." (mail disclaimer, AD 1083)


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