[Incubator] Rasdaman Incubation Status [was: FW: [rasdaman-users] Updates toward OSGeo graduation] [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Mon Feb 11 02:58:54 PST 2013

I've had some experience with rasdaman through their involvement with 

In rasdaman's favour, I've found is that the rasdaman community have 
been quick to respond to our comments and update issues that we find 
during the packaging project.

I've heard that rasdaman has been putting continuous integration in 
place to help with QA.
I think that this is an excellent step forward, as I think Quality 
Assurance has been one of rasdaman's weak points to date. Over the last 
few OSGeo-Live releases we have picked up more issues with rasdaman that 
we have with comparable projects.

I don't think rasdaman need focus on where their infrastructure is 
hosted (osgeo or otherwise) but instead focus their energy on putting 
the boring testing processes in place. Because good Quality Control 
leads to reliability, and in turn, customer confidence.

On 11/02/13 17:34, Peter Baumann wrote:
> Hi again,
> doing a quick check I just compared rasdaman to degree and found us 
> not very different, in fact:
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Deegree_Incubation_Status
> Similarly, with MapServer, GeoTools, PostGIS, GDAL, ...
> Time to give my deep kudos to all in the rasdaman project who have 
> contributed to OSGeo readiness!
> cheers,
> Peter
> On 02/11/2013 12:19 AM, Bruce Bannerman wrote:
>> Re: [Incubator] Rasdaman Incubation Status [was: FW: [rasdaman-users] 
>> Updates toward OSGeo graduation] [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Jody,
>> I think that the remaining issues are more related to community 
>> process development.
>> We still haven't made the transition to a truly open community:
>>   * Most activity and decision making still appears to be centered
>>     around Jakobs Uni / Rasdaman.com. I haven't seen much discussion
>>     on the lists around a PSC, apart from my and Alan Beccati's
>>     comments.
>>   * I do know from discussions with Peter Baumann that there are a
>>     number of users and potentially developers within Europe,
>>     particularly Germany who are hesitant to discuss issues openly in
>>     English, but do converse amongst themselves. So we have a
>>     cultural / language issue here as well, with potentially hidden
>>     processes that the rest of the community does not see.
>>   * Though there is still quite a lot of developer contribution
>>     coming from other areas as well.
>>   * Rasdaman have recently opened up access to their wiki hosted at
>>     Jakobs Uni after a request for access by myself to the mailing list.
>>   * I haven't raised it yet with the community, though I do wonder
>>     how much of a deterrent having the wiki, trac etc hosted at
>>     Jakobs is to more open development of the Rasdaman Community. It
>>     does leave the perception of being a research oriented project.
>>   * Perhaps this infrastructure would be better hosted within the
>>     OSGeo umbrella, however this would probably be a big disruption
>>     to the community at this stage of their development. Thoughts?
>> So in answer to your question, I think that we will need some time 
>> for processes and the community to come together into a more cohesive 
>> and open environment.
>> Bruce
>> On 11/02/13 9:54 AM, "Jody Garnett" <jody.garnett at gmail.com> wrote:
>>      Thanks for the status update Bruce - moving to a continuous
>>     build is a huge load off the developers.
>>     Is there anything we can do to help Rasdaman along? Or is it just
>>     case of finding the time ...
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> -- 
> Dr. Peter Baumann
>   - Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen
>     www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann
>     mail:p.baumann at jacobs-university.de
>     tel: +49-421-200-3178, fax: +49-421-200-493178
>   - Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793)
>     www.rasdaman.com, mail:baumann at rasdaman.com
>     tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax: 0800-rasdafax, mobile: +49-173-5837882
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