[Incubator] [rasdaman-users] Re: [rasdaman-dev] rasdaman incubation

Wed Jun 18 04:58:46 PDT 2014

On 06/16/2014 02:14 AM, Bruce Bannerman wrote:
> Can we move on from this discussion please? The criteria has been defined and 
> accepted by the Incubation Committee.

hm, clarification I understood as being part of the open process.

>
> I personally find that version 2 [1] of the OSGeo graduation checklist is much 
> easier to work with than version 1 [2] and allows a stronger case to be made 
> for the project that is seeking graduation.
>
> A quick compare between what the Rasdaman community already have in their 
> checklist and the current OSGeo Project Graduation Checklist will show very 
> little difference. I have identified these issues already in my earlier email [3].
>
> The main difference that I found is about 'openness'. If this is the sticking 
> point, please say so and we can move forward. I would not have thought that 
> this was a problem for the Rasdaman Open Source Community though.
>
> I'm personally very short on volunteer time and would rather spend that on 
> working through Rasdaman graduation issues. I have no doubt that I'm not the 
> only person in this position.

same here - incubation is consuming substantial effort in addition to all our 
obligations. Hence, we are interested in converging in a way that is efficient 
for all sides.

cheers,
Peter

>
>
> Bruce
>
> [1] http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html
>
> [2] http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist_v1.html
>
> [3] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2014-June/002436.html
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com 
> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Peter, yes in an ideal world with unlimited volunteer energy, it would be
>     good to have someone write a changes doc. In reality, I don't expect
>     someone will write it, unless you do.
>     However, I think the best you are going to get is a diff between versions
>     of the doc, which can probably be constructed from:
>     http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Project_Graduation_Checklist
>
>     Probably easier would be to visually compare 1.0 and 2.0, and look for the
>     differences.
>
>     On 15/06/2014 6:43 pm, Peter Baumann wrote:
>>     thanks for your insights, Cameron! Indeed, adjusting to new versions
>>     binds extra resources.
>>     In that respect, may I suggest that OSGeo provides a change list for new
>>     versions so that projects can quickly grasp what has been altered, hence
>>     what to look at. This is common, eg, in OGC standards updates (where I
>>     had to write the Change Notes for a couple of specifications myself).
>>
>>     thanks for considering,
>>     Peter
>>
>>
>>     On 06/15/2014 02:03 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>     Peter,
>>>     As far as I'm aware, the incubation committee has not discussed what to
>>>     do when the graduation document that a project is working from is updated.
>>>     My personal suggestion is that you keep the template you started with,
>>>     but look over the new template, and incorporate any major things from
>>>     the new template which may have been missed from the first.
>>>
>>>     Our graduation template represents a level of quality for our OSGeo
>>>     projects, and it should be expected that all projects should meet
>>>     OSGeo's current definition of quality at the time of graduation.
>>>
>>>     On 14/06/2014 11:22 pm, Peter Baumann wrote:
>>>>     Hi Jody, Cameron, & incubation organizers,
>>>>
>>>>     does an incubating project need to update its documents whenever a new
>>>>     version of the incubation checklist is issued?
>>>>     How is this meant for graduating and graduated projects?
>>>>     My concern is the extra burden put on projects.
>>>>
>>>>     thanks for your advice,
>>>>     Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 06/14/2014 04:23 AM, bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com
>>>>     <mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>     Peter,
>>>>>
>>>>>     See http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2014-May/002404.html
>>>>>
>>>>>     Please use the incubation graduation checklist that I referred to below.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Bruce
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>     -- 
>>>     Cameron Shorter,
>>>     Software and Data Solutions Manager
>>>     LISAsoft
>>>     Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
>>>     26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
>>>
>>>     P+61 2 9009 5000  <tel:%2B61%202%209009%205000>,  Wwww.lisasoft.com  <http://www.lisasoft.com>,  F+61 2 9009 5099  <tel:%2B61%202%209009%205099>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Dr. Peter Baumann
>>       - Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen
>>         www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann  <http://www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann>
>>         mail:p.baumann at jacobs-university.de  <mailto:p.baumann at jacobs-university.de>
>>         tel:+49-421-200-3178  <tel:%2B49-421-200-3178>, fax:+49-421-200-493178  <tel:%2B49-421-200-493178>
>>       - Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793)
>>         www.rasdaman.com  <http://www.rasdaman.com>, mail:baumann at rasdaman.com  <mailto:baumann at rasdaman.com>
>>         tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax: 0800-rasdafax, mobile:+49-173-5837882  <tel:%2B49-173-5837882>
>>     "Si forte in alienas manus oberraverit hec peregrina epistola incertis ventis dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur ut ei reddatur cui soli destinata, nec preripiat quisquam non sibi parata." (mail disclaimer, AD 1083)
>>
>>
>
>     -- 
>     Cameron Shorter,
>     Software and Data Solutions Manager
>     LISAsoft
>     Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
>     26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
>
>     P+61 2 9009 5000  <tel:%2B61%202%209009%205000>,  Wwww.lisasoft.com  <http://www.lisasoft.com>,  F+61 2 9009 5099  <tel:%2B61%202%209009%205099>
>
>

-- 
Dr. Peter Baumann
  - Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen
    www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann
    mail: p.baumann at jacobs-university.de
    tel: +49-421-200-3178, fax: +49-421-200-493178
  - Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793)
    www.rasdaman.com, mail: baumann at rasdaman.com
    tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax: 0800-rasdafax, mobile: +49-173-5837882
"Si forte in alienas manus oberraverit hec peregrina epistola incertis ventis dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur ut ei reddatur cui soli destinata, nec preripiat quisquam non sibi parata." (mail disclaimer, AD 1083)

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