[Incubator] Recommend Graduation of Rasdaman from OSGeo Incubation

[Peter Baumann]

Hi Cameron,

see inline for the individual responses:

On 10/18/2014 11:30 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> Hi Peter and Bruce,
> I've reviewed the incubation documentation provided, and provided a few spot
> reviews of the referenced documentation.
> Overall, I think the documentation is in good shape, but missing explanations,
> particularly around licenses and testing.
>
>
> Below are a few things that I'd like to see looked into before final sign off:
>
> Looking at: http://rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeoIncubationChecklist which provides
> the summary about how the project is ready to complete graduation.
>
> * For each statement that you are addressing, please add a brief sentence
> explaining HOW you are addressing the statement, possibly also with an OPINION.
> For instance, currently for: "Open communication channels", you have "see
> MailingLists".
> In reviewing, I can see that a mailing list has been set up. In looking at the
> list, I see users are asked questions on the user list and there are answers.
> I can see that auto-patch messages are being pumped into the developers list.
> In my quick scan, I can't see discussions between developers about a new
> feature, and discussions about a design idea. So I'd suggest describing how
> communication is happening. Maybe:
> "See MailingLists <URL>. User questions are typically addressed on the user
> email list. Development is currently mostly happening at Jacobs University,
> and discussions about development typically happen in person, and the results
> of such conversations are summarised onto the developer email list (or ...)."

OK, we will try adding something I have never seen such a thing on any of the
graduation reports, and neither is this required by the questionnaire.
Hence, can you help us by providing an example project showing what OSGeo expects?

>
> * For "Open Source License": I'd be hoping to see a statement about the dual
> license, including a comment about the enterprise license. I'm ok with the
> dual license concept which I think fits with OSGeo principles.  Further, from
> the material and links provided, it seems plausible that the GPL license terms
> are broken by LGPL and enterprise licensed products being distributed.
> I feel there needs to be an explanation of the enterprise license, and then
> about how LGPL products and enterprise products don't need to be GPL (because
> they don't link in any GPL libraries?).

Available - there is even a dedicated page on this, just follow the link:
http://rasdaman.org/wiki/License

>
> * "/Long term viability/":
> Sentence needed here discussing roughly how many contributors you have, (as
> well as existing reference to patchmanager).

Patchmanager is the source for the information on this, just choose "all" to see
all contributors.
Hm, not sure what else would need to be added.

>
> * /Project documentation is available under an open license, as documented
> here: Legal/:
> The referenced "Legal" link doesn't talk about Documentation. Please reference
> correct documentation license link.

oops, that should read "License" - fixed now. Good catch!

>
> * /http://rasdaman.org/wiki/Legal/ :
> Remove references to "... blah-blah ..."

why? ;-) cannot see much relevance for incubation as long as even industry does
not complain. But we are getting lost in details, admittedly.

>
> * " /Which includes execution of the testing process before releasing a stable
> release:  http://212.201.49.21:35000/"/ :
>  Link requires user log in. A sentence explaining testing will help here.

>
> * "/All patches submitted to the repository undergo review before being
> applied to the code base: http://www.rasdaman.org/patchmanager/" :
> This doesn't confirm that patches are reviewed (by a person), only that you
> use patchmanager.

ok, added "human".

>
> * "/Systemtests are to be run by developers before submitting patches:
> http://www.rasdaman.org/wiki/CodeGuide/" :
> This code guide is good, but on my first pass, I can't see any reference to
> testing processes. How do you verify that all code is tested? Ideally
> reference continual integration or similar.

We verify automatically by running a test against each patch; the outcome is
documented next to each patch once the test run has finished. This is quite a
new feature, though, and - as you have spotted - not all is in place yet.
The page is: http://www.rasdaman.org/wiki/RasdamanTestSuites

>
> * Link to   /http://rasdaman.org/browser/systemtest/  is broken. I'm looking
> for evidence of testing processes, including unit testing, continuous
> integration, and a system testing plan which is executed.

sorry for the broken link, fixed that:
http://www.rasdaman.org/wiki/RasdamanTestSuites

HTH,
Peter

>
>
>
> On 16/10/2014 4:25 pm, Bruce Bannerman wrote:
>>
>> Project:                    Rasdaman
>>
>> Project Contact:       Peter Baumann
>>
>> Project Mentor:        Bruce Bannerman
>>
>>
>> Recommendation:   Rasdaman to Graduate from OSGeo Incubation
>>
>>
>> Incubation Checklist:  http://rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeoIncubationChecklist
>>  
>>
>>
>>
>> Comments:
>>
>> I have been monitoring and participating in the Rasdaman Community developer
>> and user email lists for over four years. I plan to continue to participate
>> within the community.
>>
>> It has been pleasing to see how the community has evolved over this time to
>> develop effective, open and robust processes.
>>
>> I recommend to other FOSS4G communities to review what has been done, as you
>> may well find that Rasdaman offers a compelling solution for the management
>> of multi-dimensional array or gridded data that your project may be able to
>> capitalise on.
>>
>> A summary of community activity may be found at:
>> https://www.openhub.net/p/rasdaman
>>
>> Key project members are active within both OSGeo and the OGC.
>>
>> Within the OGC they have successfully guided a range of standards to support
>> mutltidimensional array (gridded) data which have culminated (currently) in
>> Web Coverage Service version 2.0 and a suite of extensions, see:
>> http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/wcs
>>
>> The project's principal, Professor Peter Baumann was also recently awarded
>> OGC's prestigious Kenneth D Gardels award for his contributions to OGC.
>>
>>
>>
>> After having participated within the community for four years and having
>> reviewed their OSGeo Project Graduation Checklist, I believe that Rasdaman
>> Community have fulfilled the requirements of OSGeo Incubation and are
>> eligible to graduate as an OSGeo Project.
>>
>>
>> The only reservation that I have is over the dual licensing model that is
>> used by the sponsoring company, Rasdaman GmbH. See:
>> http://www.rasdaman.com/Product/commercial+free.php
>>  
>>
>>
>> There are two versions: Community (GPL and LGPL) and Enterprise (free from
>> GPL constraints).
>>
>> The main difference between the two versions is summarised at:
>> http://www.rasdaman.org/wiki/Features
>>  
>>
>>
>> This dual licensing may create a problem for the Rasdaman Community in the
>> future should Rasdaman GmbH decide to sell its stake in the Rasdaman
>> Enterprise version of the software. We have already seen a similar situation
>> arise after the sale of MySQL which was similarly licensed.
>>
>> However as the community edition of the software is released under open
>> source licenses, I expect that the main impact would be to the continuity of
>> the Rasdaman Community in its current form. In the event of a sale, we may
>> see the software forked, as happened with MySQL.
>>
>> For consideration and vote.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
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