[Incubator] [otb-developers] Re: OTB gouvernance

Landon Blake sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com
Sun Dec 13 20:36:21 PST 2015


Thanks for your help again Manuel. I agree that some of these licensing
issues are above my head. I will mark the OSGeo branding issue as complete.
I'll try to put together an e-mail of the licensing issues this week, after
I more carefully review the e-mail you sent.

Thanks!

Landon

On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Manuel GRIZONNET <manuel.grizonnet at cnes.fr>
wrote:

> Hi Landon,
>
> There is already OSGEO branding on OTB website (
> https://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/community/), I think that it can be marked
> as done (item 1).
>
> Concerning the code provenance, I've started to update the wiki page(
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OTB_Code_Provenance_Review). I agree that
> we're close the complete the process.
>
> As mention in the wiki:
>
> - there were in the past analysis of source code repo commissioned by CNES
> to Black Duck software. I don't think I can make it public, I can perhaps
> ask the authorization to send you personally. I list conclusions in the
> wiki. There were not outstanding issues which pop-up.
> - There is also a work in progress code review in the frame of the
> modification of the OTB license. I can also not make it public (emails,
> contract information related to some contributions...). I can send you a
> personal link.
>
> We're making progress but I don't think we'll be able to complete the
> updated code review for December (we're not checking here free libraries
> included but contributions compatibility to change the licence to Apache).
>
> I don't think that this updated code review should be mandatory for the
> osgeo incubation (since code review in 2011 most integrated third libraries
> were removed from otb source tree).
>
> The only point is the fact that OTB include the free software 6S which
> does not mention any licence. OTB was recently added to DebianGIS repo and
> there were discussions on how to handle this (see
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-gis/2015/09/msg00005.html).
>
> Things could be improved regarding the integration of 6S in OTB and
> license compatibility but there was no blocking issue regarding code
> provenance and copyright info IMHO (we make adjustements regarding
> copyrights listing following advises of debain packagers).
>
> Let me know how we can continue the process, thanks again Landon for your
> help.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Manuel
>
>
>
> Le 28/11/2015 22:52, Landon Blake a écrit :
>
>> I want to commend you guys on the progress you've made in the incubation
>> process. I've updated your incubation status page on the OSGeo wiki to
>> note the following:
>>
>> 1) A project steering committee is now in place and making decisions.
>> 2) Project documentation has been updated to reflect membership in OSGeo.
>>
>> Here are the next couple of items we need to work on:
>>
>> 1) OSGeo branding of the OTB web site.
>> 2) Code Provenance Review
>>
>> You asked about suggestions on how to add the OSGeo brand to the OTB web
>> site. I'd suggest you add a couple of sentences about OSGeo membership
>> to the bottom of the main paragraph here:
>> https://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/
>>
>> Or you could add an "About" page and talk about the project's membership
>> in OSGeo there.
>>
>
>
>
>
>> I know the Code Provenance Review can be overwhelming. Could we start by
>> getting a list of current code contributors and a list of the libraries
>> that are being used by the software?
>>
>> We can list those items here:
>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OTB_Code_Provenance_Review
>>
>> Any chance we can set a goal to have this done by the end of the day on
>> Friday, December 11th?
>>
>> If there are other ways I can help, please let me know. You guys are so
>> close to being finished!
>>
>> Landon
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 2:13 AM, Manuel Grizonnet
>> <manuel.grizonnet at cnes.fr <mailto:manuel.grizonnet at cnes.fr>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Landon,
>>
>>     I have updated the OTB Software guide document to reflect the
>>     membership in the OSGeo:
>>
>>
>> https://git.orfeo-toolbox.org/otb-documents.git/commitdiff/2d2d713b7de126efb10e752a31b58a5ed6d5dd4a
>>
>>     It corresponds to the item 3 of the incubation application which can
>>     now be marked as done.
>>
>>     Best regards,
>>
>>     Manuel
>>
>>     Le 27/11/2015 07:07, Landon Blake a écrit :
>>
>>         Julien:
>>
>>         I got the response this time. I'm not sure why I missed your
>> earlier
>>         response and I apologize. I will look over your responses in
>>         more detail
>>         tomorrow, to see if there are things I can help with.
>>
>>         Landon
>>
>>         On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 2:44 AM, Julien Michel
>>         <julien.michel at cnes.fr <mailto:julien.michel at cnes.fr>
>>         <mailto:julien.michel at cnes.fr <mailto:julien.michel at cnes.fr>>>
>>         wrote:
>>
>>              Hi Landon,
>>
>>              There must be some kind of technical issue with the emails,
>>         because
>>              according to otb-developers history, I already answered
>>         twice to
>>              this message :
>>
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/otb-developers/OTB$20gouvernance/otb-developers/s5kNy7M67Y8
>>
>>              Can you aknowledge that you received this reply ?
>>
>>              Thanks a lot,
>>
>>              Regards,
>>
>>              Julien
>>
>>
>>              Le 14/11/2015 17:36, Landon Blake a écrit :
>>
>>                  Bump...
>>
>>                  On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Landon Blake
>>                  <sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com
>>             <mailto:sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com>
>>                  <mailto:sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com
>>             <mailto:sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>>                      Bump. Any response from the OTB Team from my last
>>             e-mail? I'd
>>                      love to push you guys the rest of the way through the
>>                      incubation process.
>>
>>                      Landon
>>
>>                      On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Landon Blake
>>                      <sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com
>>             <mailto:sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com>
>>                      <mailto:sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com
>>
>>             <mailto:sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>>                          Trying to get back in the game again. :]
>>
>>                          I reviewed the incubation status tonight. I
>>             updated your
>>                          application to indicate that a PSC has been
>>             formed. Here
>>                          are some other items we can button up next:
>>
>>                          1) Contributor guidelines. These are mentioned
>>             briefly on
>>                          the PSC wiki page, but not fleshed out. Are
>>             they somewhere
>>                          else? If not, can we work on fleshing them out?
>>                          2) Have we updated the project documents to
>> reflect
>>                          membership in the OSGeo? (This is an item we
>> tabled
>>                          previously.)
>>                          3) Have we updated the project website to reflect
>>                          membership in the OSGeo?
>>
>>                          Then we need to work on the code provenance
>>             review. That
>>                          should be the last step or close to the last
>> step.
>>
>>                          Let me know what you think about the items
>>             listed. I
>>                          appreciate your patience with my efforts as a
>>             mentor.
>>
>>                          Landon
>>
>>                          On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Landon Blake
>>                          <sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com
>>             <mailto:sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com>
>>                          <mailto:sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com
>>             <mailto:sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>>                               Thanks Manuel. I need to check in on our
>>             current
>>                              position in the incubation process. I will
>>             try to do
>>                              this in the next couple of days and will
>>             close the
>>                              loop with you.
>>
>>                              Landon
>>
>>                              On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 5:04 AM, Manuel
>>             Grizonnet
>>                              <manuel.grizonnet at cnes.fr
>>             <mailto:manuel.grizonnet at cnes.fr>
>>                              <mailto:manuel.grizonnet at cnes.fr
>>
>>             <mailto:manuel.grizonnet at cnes.fr>>> wrote:
>>
>>                                  Hi Landon,
>>
>>                                  sorry for the late answer.
>>
>>                                  regarding the gouvernance I think that
>>             it is
>>                                  working fine.
>>
>>                                  The official PSC have been created:
>>
>>
>> http://wiki.orfeo-toolbox.org/index.php/Project_Steering_Committee
>>
>>                                  Decisions are now taken through a
>> standard
>>                                  procedure, discuss on the mailing list
>>             and listed
>>                                  on OTB wiki:
>>
>>
>> http://wiki.orfeo-toolbox.org/index.php/Summary_of_PSC_Decisions
>>
>>                                  I think that more people will join soon
>>             the PSC.
>>
>>                                  Best regards,
>>
>>                                  Manuel
>>
>>
>>                                  On 01/04/2015 05:16, Landon Blake wrote:
>>
>>                                      Thanks for the update Manuel. Do
>>                 you guys need
>>                                      any help, or do you feel like you
>>                 are making good
>>                                      progress?
>>
>>                                      Landon
>>
>>                                      On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:11 AM,
>>                 Grizonnet Manuel
>>                                      <Manuel.Grizonnet at cnes.fr
>>                 <mailto:Manuel.Grizonnet at cnes.fr>
>>                                      <mailto:Manuel.Grizonnet at cnes.fr
>>
>>                 <mailto:Manuel.Grizonnet at cnes.fr>>> wrote:
>>
>>                                          Hi Landon,
>>                                          FYI if you missed that, we’ve
>>                 just made an
>>                                          announcement yesterday
>>                 regarding the creation
>>                                          of an official PSC for OTB (new
>>                 step for OTB
>>                                          incubation)
>>
>>                 _https://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/steer-me-please/_
>>                                          It was a long time that we
>>                 wanted to do it
>>                                          but we’ve got to take time to
>>                 clearly explain
>>                                          the strategy and how it works
>>                 to the CNES.
>>                                          Now there is a bootstrap for
>>                 the PSC with
>>                                          CNES people involved in the
>>                 project and we’re
>>                                          going now to invite and collect
>>                 applications
>>                                          for new members and initiate
>>                 PSC activities.
>>                                          PSC roles and scope is mostly
>>                 based on our
>>                                          felling about what should be
>>                 the OTB PSC
>>                                          organization and is also based
>>                 on existing
>>                                          PSC in OSGEO like GDAL, QGIS…
>>                                          Don’t hesitate if you’ve got
>>                 any questions.
>>                                          Best regards,
>>                                          Manuel
>>
>>
>>
>>                                  --
>>                                  Manuel GRIZONNET
>>
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>>
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