[Incubator] gvSIG project graduation (Update)

Tue Oct 20 13:05:55 PDT 2015

Hi Cameron, all,

El 20/10/15 a las 21:07, Cameron Shorter escribió:
> Hi Alvaro,
> I agree that it would be great to announce gvSIG's graduation from
> OSGeo incubation at the gvSIG conference (on 4 Dec?), and I think it
> is also achievable, but require a quick turn around. I'd like to help
> you with that from the OSGeo Incubation Committee side of things.
>
> With regards to the question of quality of documentation of decision
> making processes, I do think this is important from an incubation
> perspective, and is related to having "institutionalized processes".
>
> Refer to:
> http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html
>
> A project should have institutionalized the processes in this list or
> provide justification why the process is not used.
> ...
>
> Institutionalized Process
>     A documented process which which addresses a need and is actively
>     in use. It typically takes months before a process becomes
>     institutionalized.
>     /A more detailed definition of institutionalization is found in
>     the Capability Maturity Model (CMMI)
>     <http://www.sei.cmu.edu/library/abstracts/reports/02tr012.cfm>/
> Open Source License

I agree, but I think the point is made/ok.

In your comments of the last email, you gave advice about writing style
or the order of documentation publication (referring to language).
Honestly, I think they are advices and recommendations, but not a
requirement for graduation.

Is it necessary to comply with those recommendations? I would like the
committee clearly answers this question.

Are we not getting into a level of detail that also is subjective?

Best  Regards,
Alvaro

> Warm regards, Cameron
>
> On 19/10/2015 10:17 pm, Alvaro Anguix wrote:
>> Hi Cameron,
>>  
>> About the documentation in Spanish/English, we are finishing the last
>> translations of the user and developer documentation, and we will
>> have the 100% of the gvSIG documentation in Spanish and English (and
>> in Portuguese too). We also are finishing the migration of the old
>> infrastructure (docs.gvsig.org) to the new one. In any case we take
>> all the suggestions and improvements into account, that we will
>> tackle as soon as possible.
>>  
>> Anyway, the doubt that we have is if these suggestions are
>> requirements for the incubation. We understand that they aren't
>> requirements for the graduation, but we would like to confirm it.
>> Mainly because the 11th International gvSIG Conference will be held
>> soon, and we would like to announce the graduation previously.
>>  
>> Thank you very much!
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Alvaro
>>
>>
>> El 16/10/15 a las 22:10, Cameron Shorter escribió:
>>> Hi Alvaro,
>>> Sorry for the slow response.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your updated principles. I've just reviewed and here is
>>> my feedback:
>>>
>>> I think that you have captured the process of making technical
>>> decisions, which is good. However:
>>>
>>> * The documentation is in a wiki [1], and not presented in the same
>>> prominence as the rest of the gvsig documentation [2]. I'd suggest
>>> that your processes should be moved out of the wiki, and into the
>>> same doc system as the rest of the docs, probably at:
>>> http://docs.gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/docs/<something>
>>> You might want to include the processes as another chapter in the
>>> existing Developers Guide.
>>> A good example you could follow is the GeoServer docs page [3] which
>>> includes "Policies and Procedures".
>>>
>>> * The current text reads a bit like a news article, written from an
>>> outsider's point of view, describing how you have noticed that
>>> decisions are made. What would be better is writing an authoritative
>>> process which gvSig team members sometimes quote and refer to when
>>> making decisions. A news article becomes dated, a documented process
>>> should be useful for the community, and will get updated over time.
>>>
>>> * The text looks like it has been written by one person, and hasn't
>>> yet been reviewed by other core gvSig members. I'd suggest that
>>> you'd likely get good feedback from your internal gvSig community if
>>> you were to ask:
>>> "Does this text accurately represent how we should make decisions in
>>> the future? Are we as a community prepared to use this documented
>>> process as a guide for our future decisions?"
>>>
>>> * I notice that much of the gvSig documentation is written in
>>> Spanish. I'm not sure, but it is possible you would get better
>>> feedback from your community if this document was written first in
>>> Spanish, and if desired, later translated to English.
>>>
>>> Sorry again for the delayed response, and also for giving you more
>>> homework. I do encourage you to keep going because I think it would
>>> be valuable for the gvsig community.
>>>
>>> Warm regards, Cameron
>>>
>>> [1] https://redmine.gvsig.net/redmine/projects/gvsig-desktop/wiki/Wiki
>>> [2] http://docs.gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/docs/
>>> [3] http://docs.geoserver.org/
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/10/2015 7:19 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
>>>> Thanks Alvaro! Recovering from foss4g on this end, thanks for
>>>> updating the wiki. I believe we are getting down to the end here,
>>>> thanks for the clarifications.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jody Garnett
>>>>
>>>> On 1 October 2015 at 05:37, Alvaro Anguix <aanguix at gvsig.com
>>>> <mailto:aanguix at gvsig.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Hello,
>>>>
>>>>     Apologies for the delay, but I've been in 2nd gvSIG Conference
>>>>     in Peru
>>>>     and I couldn't update the checklist information before.
>>>>     Now it's updated:
>>>>     http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GvSIG_Incubation_Checklist
>>>>
>>>>     The principal link about technical decisions and gvSIG
>>>>     organization is this:
>>>>     https://redmine.gvsig.net/redmine/projects/gvsig-desktop/wiki/Wiki
>>>>
>>>>     Best Regards,
>>>>     Alvaro
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>
> -- 
> Cameron Shorter,
> Software and Data Solutions Manager
> LISAsoft
> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
> 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
>
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