[Incubator] osgeo innovator (was labs)
Jody Garnett
jody.garnett at gmail.com
Fri Feb 5 10:08:54 PST 2016
As Steve has indicated, we need to pay attention to the spirit of
incubation here.
The checklist mentions diversity for two reasons:
a) to ensure a project will not be shutoff when a single organization loses
interest/funding/mandate (this can be offset by having the backing of
several organizations, or in the MetaCRS case by having the technology used
in so many downstream projects that it is a "Safe Bet" that funds would be
found to keep the project going)
b) to ensure a project will not change direction randomly based on a single
project lead changing her mind/funding/customer (this can be offset by
having a PSC representing several organizations, projects, industries)
OSGeo is a "user focused" organization, while we support all foss4g - only
projects that are align with our ideals (one of which is low risk for
users) are acknowledged as OSGeo Projects. Phrased another way there are
plenty of high value projects we are not in position to recommend.
For Steve's examples of pgRouting I bet he could make it through incubation
(given the wide range of organizations it is deployed with). Others like
geocoding are a challenge since they are so dataset dependent ...
--
Jody Garnett
On 5 February 2016 at 01:30, Massimiliano Cannata <
massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch> wrote:
> If I can add something,
> I believe the question is that a small project could be the best on the
> earth but specific enough / complicated enough not to meet the interest of
> a large community.
>
> Does it means the project is not good and applicable or ready to the main
> street?
> I don't believe this is true.
>
> Maybe not correct example could be the electric cars:
> - do they work good? can they be recommended? are they ready for the
> market? can they circulate? Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes
> - are they so widley used? No
>
> It would be a pity not to promote what is working perfectly but not yet
> diffused because of marketing / economic value.
>
>
> Maxi
>
>
>
>
>
> 2016-02-05 9:45 GMT+01:00 Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>:
>
>> I think the point was this could be a place for projects that are open
>> source ... but too small for main street. Projects will stay here, and may
>> never meet our risk based graduation requirements.
>>
>> We do want these projects to be open source, correctly license and
>> spatial. But that is about it for constraints.
>>
>> Heh - we could borrow the foss4g name it is nice and inclusive.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 7:06 PM Stephen Woodbridge <
>> woodbri at swoodbridge.com> wrote:
>>
>>> For names, how about:
>>>
>>> OSGeo Shed
>>> OSGeo Project Shed
>>> OSGeo Project Barn
>>> OSGeo Garage
>>>
>>> the place where projects live until they are ready for the main street.
>>>
>>> Names are hard!
>>>
>>> -Steve
>>>
>>> On 2/4/2016 8:22 PM, Landon Blake wrote:
>>> > Agreed. We should just get the shed painted.
>>> >
>>> > Landon
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com
>>> > <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I will point out that naming is a classic bike shed problem. I
>>> think
>>> > we should ask the projects in "labs" and get their take on this.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Jody Garnett
>>> >
>>> > On 4 February 2016 at 13:12, Landon Blake
>>> > <sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com <mailto:sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com
>>> >>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I like "Innovator". What about "Community Builder Project"?
>>> >
>>> > Landon
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Jody Garnett
>>> > <jody.garnett at gmail.com <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I hear you, and you are correct that innovation can happen
>>> > anywhere. I look forward to alternate name suggestions.
>>> > "Experiment" would do a disservice to a completed project
>>> > that does not yet have a large/diverse enough community to
>>> > meet our graduation requirements.
>>> >
>>> > My fellow board members were a bit startled that our
>>> > incubation policies do inhibit the support smaller
>>> projects,
>>> > and would like an avenue to support innovation. It may be
>>> > that both these objectives cannot be met with the same
>>> > initiative, but I would like to try.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Jody Garnett
>>> >
>>> > On 3 February 2016 at 23:47, Jeroen Ticheler
>>> > <jeroen.ticheler at geocat.net
>>> > <mailto:jeroen.ticheler at geocat.net>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi Jody,
>>> > I understand the naming confusion. The Innovator name
>>> > however has IMO a negative reflection on the
>>> established
>>> > projects. Are new projects necessarily more innovative
>>> > than established ones? Often they are still so small
>>> > they don't have established communities/structures etc
>>> > in place. That's indeed why the Labs were created.
>>> > I will think about another potential name and I hope
>>> > others feel the same and will also think of an
>>> > alternative naming for the Labs. I remember you saying
>>> > something like Hatching (synonym of incubating, so
>>> maybe
>>> > to co fusing).
>>> > Maybe OSGeo Experiments.
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > Jeroen
>>> >
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>>> > > Op 4 feb. 2016 om 03:25 heeft Jody Garnett
>>> > <jody.garnett at gmail.com <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com
>>> >>
>>> > het volgende geschreven:
>>> > >
>>> > > A couple of results for the incubation team out of
>>> > the weekend's board meeting.
>>> > >
>>> > > We have the "GeoForAll Labs" and our OSGeo labs
>>> > projects - and the two names trip on each other.
>>> > >
>>> > > Board members were also a bit taken aback that our
>>> > incubation process is not really "welcome" to
>>> innovation
>>> > (indeed our graduation requirements tend to favour
>>> > established projects).
>>> > >
>>> > > With that in mind - I would like to kick off:
>>> > >
>>> > > 1) Renaming OSGeo Labs as OSGeo Innovator
>>> > >
>>> > > The branding for this is way better for projects!
>>> > Having an "OSGeo Innovator" badge on your home page is
>>> > way more "positive" an impression.
>>> > >
>>> > > 2) Revise the procedures around this activity
>>> > >
>>> > > My first take is:
>>> > > - provide a home for small project teams / single
>>> > organization projects
>>> > > - focus on new projects (so provide README,
>>> > CONTRIBUTING, PSC files for a project to copy into
>>> github)
>>> > > - stick to our "open source" and "open development"
>>> guns!
>>> > > - "save the sticker" until on-boarding is complete
>>> > > --
>>> > > Jody Garnett
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