[Incubator] osgeo innovator (was labs)
Cameron Shorter
cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Fri Feb 5 11:28:59 PST 2016
I like Andrea's approach to this question by flipping the problem.
Lets first ask: what is the value from a label such as "OSGeo
Incubated"? It is a badge of quality which new users can quickly
recognise to help select projects they might use.
OSGeo-Live provides another badge of quality. OSGeo-Live guarantees that
a project has been tested and verified to work on the OSGeo-Live linux
distribution. Its main selection criteria is that the project is stable,
and the community are willing to keep it maintained (with docs and
data). OSGeo-Live's selection criteria [1] is lower than for OSGeo
Incubation, and could be integrated with a greater OSGeo badge system.
So what I believe we are looking for is a set of well defined project
qualities, with each quality earning a badge. Some of these qualities
can be automatically applied, as generated by OpenHub metrics [2].
Others could be opted into, by the project themselves, similar to the
OSGeo Advocate categories [3].
And the harder, but more valued badges are those requiring a manual
testing process, as provided by the OSGeo Incubation Checklist. [4]
Note, the value and prestige of this badge is determined by the quality
insisted upon before the badge is allocated.
[1]
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#How_to_add_a_project_to_OSGeoLive
[2] http://live.osgeo.org/en/metrics.html
[3] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Advocate#Understanding_OSGeo_roles
[4] http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html
On 5/02/2016 7:42 pm, Andrea Aime wrote:
> Silly idea maybe, but what if you look at the problem at the other way,
> and simply allow projects to show a logo showing they symphatize for
> OSGeo,
> and have them start incubation when they are somehow ready to?
>
> Steal a page from OGC, one can say they are "implementing" a standard
> without checks (which
> just mean they tried, but also shows support for OGC), and then you
> can go though the
> formal process and get actually certified, if you want to.
>
> Cheers
> Andrea
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 11:21 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com
> <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I will point out that naming is a classic bike shed problem. I
> think we should ask the projects in "labs" and get their take on this.
>
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
> On 4 February 2016 at 13:12, Landon Blake
> <sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com
> <mailto:sunburned.surveyor at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I like "Innovator". What about "Community Builder Project"?
>
> Landon
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Jody Garnett
> <jody.garnett at gmail.com <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I hear you, and you are correct that innovation can happen
> anywhere. I look forward to alternate name suggestions.
> "Experiment" would do a disservice to a completed project
> that does not yet have a large/diverse enough community to
> meet our graduation requirements.
>
> My fellow board members were a bit startled that our
> incubation policies do inhibit the support smaller
> projects, and would like an avenue to support innovation.
> It may be that both these objectives cannot be met with
> the same initiative, but I would like to try.
>
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
> On 3 February 2016 at 23:47, Jeroen Ticheler
> <jeroen.ticheler at geocat.net
> <mailto:jeroen.ticheler at geocat.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi Jody,
> I understand the naming confusion. The Innovator name
> however has IMO a negative reflection on the
> established projects. Are new projects necessarily
> more innovative than established ones? Often they are
> still so small they don't have established
> communities/structures etc in place. That's indeed why
> the Labs were created.
> I will think about another potential name and I hope
> others feel the same and will also think of an
> alternative naming for the Labs. I remember you saying
> something like Hatching (synonym of incubating, so
> maybe to co fusing).
> Maybe OSGeo Experiments.
> Cheers,
> Jeroen
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> > Op 4 feb. 2016 om 03:25 heeft Jody Garnett
> <jody.garnett at gmail.com
> <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com>> het volgende geschreven:
> >
> > A couple of results for the incubation team out of
> the weekend's board meeting.
> >
> > We have the "GeoForAll Labs" and our OSGeo labs
> projects - and the two names trip on each other.
> >
> > Board members were also a bit taken aback that our
> incubation process is not really "welcome" to
> innovation (indeed our graduation requirements tend to
> favour established projects).
> >
> > With that in mind - I would like to kick off:
> >
> > 1) Renaming OSGeo Labs as OSGeo Innovator
> >
> > The branding for this is way better for projects!
> Having an "OSGeo Innovator" badge on your home page is
> way more "positive" an impression.
> >
> > 2) Revise the procedures around this activity
> >
> > My first take is:
> > - provide a home for small project teams / single
> organization projects
> > - focus on new projects (so provide README,
> CONTRIBUTING, PSC files for a project to copy into github)
> > - stick to our "open source" and "open development"
> guns!
> > - "save the sticker" until on-boarding is complete
> > --
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