[Incubator] Proj4php community project
Cameron Shorter
cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Thu Jul 21 05:11:56 PDT 2016
Hi Julien,
Nice to see you working through the incubation checklist. I think it
will find it valuable for helping build your project.
Re setting up an archived email list, yes, I think it is well worth doing.
1. If you are emailing each other already, you may as well do it on an
email list. It costs very little to get it working.
2. Having an email list is a good way to attract users. New users will
have a way to contact the developers, as a question, and occasionally
offer to help (and grow your team). It helps create a sense of
community. Probably start with just one email list (call it
devel at xxx.yyy.zzz or similar). Once traffic gets large enough, you might
want to split out into user at xxxx and announce at xxxx
Cheers, Cameron
On 21/07/2016 8:08 AM, Julien Moquet wrote:
> Hi Cameron,
>
> I have followed your advice there :
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Proj4php_Incubation_Graduation_Checklist
> And I will evaluate the impact for the 3.0 draft of the incubation
> checklist you tells us about.
>
> We got some homework now !
> I will begin to add what is missing in our bug tracker.
>
> Eventhough, I don't know if we really need a mailing list, because we
> got an issue tracker already. What do you think of ?
>
> Regards,
> Julien.
>
> P.S.: let me introduce you Nick B. in carbon copy.
>
>
> Le 20 juil. 2016 10:29 PM, "Cameron Shorter"
> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>
> Hi Julien,
>
> You might want to look at the OSGeo-Live incubation page we have
> set up:
>
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Incubation_Graduation_Checklist
>
> The OSGeo-Live project is not officially "in incubation", but that
> hasn't stopped us from working on addressing the incubation steps
> and answering the questions.
>
> Addressing these steps ensures that you are building a strong
> community project.
>
> You might also want to have a look at a proposed next version of
> the checklist:
>
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Project_Graduation_Checklist
>
> On 20/07/2016 8:25 AM, Julien Moquet wrote:
>> Hi Cameron,
>>
>> Thank you for your answer.
>> I am totally agree, proj4php is a bit young (even after 7 years !).
>> But somes continue to get interested on it.
>>
>> I am going to complete proj4php strategy to match your checklist !
>> And as Jody tolds me, a first step will be to became a community
>> project.
>>
>> I will keep incubator lists in touch.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Julien.
>>
>>
>> 2016-07-19 22:28 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter
>> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>>:
>>
>> Hi Julian,
>>
>> It sounds like proj4php has good foundations, and would be a
>> candidate for being an OSGeo project in a few years, but is
>> still a bit young to be ready for OSGeo Incubation.
>>
>> I suggest a better checklist to look at is the OSGeo
>> Graduation Checklist. This is what you would be aiming for if
>> you wished to complete graduation.
>>
>> http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html
>>
>> Cheers, Cameron
>>
>>
>> On 19/07/2016 6:40 AM, Julien Moquet wrote:
>>> Hi Jody,
>>>
>>> I really appreciate your help !
>>>
>>> However, it depends on what a mentor should be ! Does an
>>> osgeo member can be a mentor ?
>>> I eventually know Thomas Bonfort by the past. He is a
>>> committer and PSC member of MapServer. I am going to ask him.
>>>
>>> By the way, I am starting to make proj4php as a community
>>> project !
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Julien.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2016-07-18 3:21 GMT+02:00 Jody Garnett
>>> <jody.garnett at gmail.com <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com>>:
>>>
>>> Thanks Julien - have been collecting some applications
>>> on the osgeo issue tracker for incubation. Curently it
>>> can be tricky to find a mentor for new projects (or in
>>> this case new to OSGeo proejcts) - did you have a mentor
>>> in mind?
>>>
>>> I would encourage you to apply as an OSGeo "community
>>> project
>>> <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Community_Projects>"
>>> - it is a faster way to be included in OSGeo (as it does
>>> not require finding a suitable mentor
>>>
>>> Aside: We really should revise this list of application
>>> questions - thinks like the question on "infrastructure"
>>> was from the time when OSGeo svn was considered more
>>> cool then source forge CVS for version control.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jody Garnett
>>>
>>> On 16 July 2016 at 05:33, Julien Moquet
>>> <moquet.julien at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:moquet.julien at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear OSGeo members, Mr Garnett,
>>>
>>> As you may know, proj4php is an open source project,
>>> started in 2009, and recently hosted on github :
>>> https://github.com/proj4php/proj4php
>>> This is not a huge project, but we got a tiny
>>> community to be grown.
>>>
>>> In order to describe our project, here is answers
>>> for questions from this page :
>>> http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/application.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Please describe your Project.
>>>
>>> Proj4php is a php library for geographic coordinates
>>> transformation using proj4 definitions
>>>
>>> > Why is hosting at OSGeo good for your project?
>>>
>>> Most of library using proj4 definitions are hosted
>>> at OSGeo. It gives the project more sens for the
>>> users, and more visibility.
>>>
>>> > Type of application does this project
>>> represent(client, server, standalone, library, etc.):
>>>
>>> library
>>>
>>> > Please describe any relationships to other open
>>> source projects.
>>>
>>> spatialreference.org <http://spatialreference.org>
>>> as a source of defs
>>>
>>> > Please describe any relationships with commercial
>>> companies or products.
>>>
>>> nop
>>>
>>> > Which open source license(s) will the source code
>>> be released under?
>>>
>>> LGPL 2
>>>
>>> > Is there already a beta or official release?
>>>
>>> The 1.0 stands for old releases (php under 5.2), and
>>> the 2.0 releases are the latests.
>>>
>>> > What is the origin of your project (commercial,
>>> experimental, thesis or other higher education,
>>> government, or some other source)?
>>>
>>> Proj4php gets its origin as I was stuck on delay on
>>> a php project with strong hosting constraints. I
>>> translated proj4js in php, and set its source code
>>> open the same night.
>>> Then a little community started to grow. Winne27,
>>> nickolanack, judgej made real good work on proj4php
>>> to develop it and help others to use it.
>>>
>>> > Does the project support open standards? Which
>>> ones and to what extent? (OGC, w3c, ect.)
>>>
>>> nop
>>>
>>> > Has the software been certified to any standard
>>> (CITE for example)? If not, is it the intention of
>>> the project owners to seek certification at some point?
>>>
>>> nop
>>>
>>> > Is the code free of patents, trademarks, and do
>>> you control the copyright?
>>>
>>> yes
>>>
>>> > How many people actively contribute (code,
>>> documentation, other?) to the project at this time?
>>>
>>> We are 3 people to help others to fix their problems
>>> or answering questions on proj4php.
>>>
>>> > How many people have commit access to the source
>>> code respository?
>>>
>>> 4
>>>
>>> > Approximately how many users are currently using
>>> this project?
>>>
>>> Github tells there is 48 unique cloners the last 14
>>> days, and we got about 1800 downloads the last 30
>>> days on packagist.
>>>
>>> > What type of users does your project attract
>>> (government, commercial, hobby, academic research,
>>> etc. )?
>>>
>>> I don't know
>>>
>>> > If you do not intend to host any portion of this
>>> project using the OSGeo infrastructure, why should
>>> you be considered a member project of the OSGeo
>>> Foundation?
>>>
>>> I don't understand the question !
>>>
>>> > Does the project include an automated build and test?
>>>
>>> Yes, we use Travis
>>>
>>> > What language(s) are used in this project?
>>> (C/Java/perl/etc)
>>>
>>> PHP
>>>
>>> > What is the dominant written language (i.e.
>>> English, French, Spanish, German, etc) of the core
>>> developers?
>>>
>>> English, but I am personally French
>>>
>>> > What is the (estimated) size of a full release of
>>> this project? How many users do you expect to
>>> download the project when it is released?
>>>
>>> about 200 ko ?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Julien Moquet
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> Jirotech
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>
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> --
> Cameron Shorter,
> Software and Data Solutions Manager
> Jirotech
> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
> 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
>
> P+61 2 8099 9000 <tel:%2B61%202%208099%209000>, M+61 419 142 254 <tel:%2B61%20419%20142%20254>, Wwww.jirotech.com <http://www.jirotech.com>
>
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Cameron Shorter,
Software and Data Solutions Manager
Jirotech
Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
P +61 2 8099 9000, M +61 419 142 254, W www.jirotech.com
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