[Incubator] Info on the Old OSGeo Labs

Jody Garnett jody.garnett at gmail.com
Wed Mar 16 14:10:22 PDT 2016

Excellent discussion Bruce, thank you. I agree with the general feel here,
that we are on a scale  of "Community" (minimal) to "Project" (showcase
best practice).

The miss assumption is "starting out" or "immature" - projects like
pgRouting, GeoWebCache, proj4js are simply "small". We would like an
opportunity as a foundation to support these projects and include them in
our organization.

The downside to Hatch and Nurture is that they assume that a project will
proceed towards graduation. While we may be able to capture this as a
"staged" incubation process (as per Bob's suggestion) it also suffers from
this perspective that the projects are "not ready yet".

I wonder if we could take this conversation in the other direction, contact
projects like pgRouting and asking what would appeal (rather than guessing
at this end what would be attractive).

* As a uDig lead I was dissuaded from joining OSGeo by being unable to meet
the various incubation viability requirements (the project was too small).

* In prior conversations with Kevin Smith from GeoWebCache there is simply
not a business driver to moving from labs to incubation - the project is
not attracting enough committers to qualify. Indeed any available time to
work on the project is put into the project directly.

Jody Garnett

On 16 March 2016 at 00:08, Bruce Bannerman <bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com>
> Perhaps this is where we need to start.
> What is it that we're trying to establish, together with the rationale. We
> can sort a name from there, rather than assuming that everyone is familiar
> with what the old 'Labs' were intended for.
> In response to your question:
> Assumption by me:  The 'thing' is intended to support projects and their
> communities that are small, immature, or just starting out. These projects
> are not ready to begin graduation, or perhaps do not want to go through the
> process at this stage.
> Therefore, we want to find a way to encourage them into the OSGeo
> Community, Principles and way of working. Projects may or may not wish to
> enter graduation as they evolve.
> Therefore, I saw that we could have a nurturing role for these projects,
> to provide them with basic infrastructure for web presence, project
> governance and code repositories. If projects express an interest we could
> introduce them to some of the concepts required of an OSGeo Project in
> graduation. This is heading in the direction that Bob Basques suggested for
> staged graduation.
> I see this as potentially a nuturing role, hence the two terms:
> OSGeo Hatch (as in hatchery for new projects)
> OSGeo Nurture.
> I hope this helps.
> If my assumption as to the intent of this 'thing' is incorrect, then
> perhaps we could clarify as a starting point.
> Bruce
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